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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-932192&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Well he certainly LOOKS like a &quot;Rational Scientologist&quot;!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-932192">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>Well he certainly LOOKS like a &#8220;Rational Scientologist&#8221;!</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2015 09:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-930961&quot;&gt;Simply Me&lt;/a&gt;.

Excuse me @rungratjanthai:disqus WTF is a &quot;rational Scientologist&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-930961">Simply Me</a>.</p>
<p>Excuse me @rungratjanthai:disqus WTF is a &#8220;rational Scientologist&#8221;?</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2015 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933737&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

A bent mind, getting even more bent. Always a good thing, NOT!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933737">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>A bent mind, getting even more bent. Always a good thing, NOT!</p>
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		By: Jay Wood		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay Wood]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 17:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931751&quot;&gt;Graham&lt;/a&gt;.

When he just started out, he was too timid. Pat Broker and David Mayo still had tremendous influence within the Co$ (even after expulsion), and could have exposed him and shot him down as a squirrel if he&#039;d made new levels up when he was still consolidating power. But by the time that era had passed, it was too late to make new shit up, because people would have wondered why it took so long to &quot;discover&quot;. I think the lack of DM-generated upper level materials does point to the one area where he has DEEP insecurities.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931751">Graham</a>.</p>
<p>When he just started out, he was too timid. Pat Broker and David Mayo still had tremendous influence within the Co$ (even after expulsion), and could have exposed him and shot him down as a squirrel if he&#8217;d made new levels up when he was still consolidating power. But by the time that era had passed, it was too late to make new shit up, because people would have wondered why it took so long to &#8220;discover&#8221;. I think the lack of DM-generated upper level materials does point to the one area where he has DEEP insecurities.</p>
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		By: Verve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe that anyone that graduated from high school buys into all of the Purif Rundown BS.  Biochemistry is an actual fact, not super duper &quot;Tech.&quot;  (And what the f&#039; is &quot;Tech?&quot;  It&#039;s as technical as shaving a pig.)  Gah, that video nearly had me shoving bananas into my ears.
Also, Chris is awesome.  If I ever meet him, I&#039;m giving him a  monkey.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe that anyone that graduated from high school buys into all of the Purif Rundown BS.  Biochemistry is an actual fact, not super duper &#8220;Tech.&#8221;  (And what the f&#8217; is &#8220;Tech?&#8221;  It&#8217;s as technical as shaving a pig.)  Gah, that video nearly had me shoving bananas into my ears.<br />
Also, Chris is awesome.  If I ever meet him, I&#8217;m giving him a  monkey.</p>
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		By: Josh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Uptone&quot;? 
&quot;75 percent of my sense&quot;?  

I&#039;m pretty sure the guy talking wrote the testimonial.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Uptone&#8221;?<br />
&#8220;75 percent of my sense&#8221;?  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m pretty sure the guy talking wrote the testimonial.</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933566&quot;&gt;Mymy88&lt;/a&gt;.

Seriously, though... the incident in Tenarife when Hubbard came off his bike , breaking his arm and two ribs, marked the end of the original (sea-going) Sea Org and the beginning of Hubbard&#039;s rapid physical and mental decline. 

The fact that he soon became a sick, crotchety old man in hiding, completely out of touch, is what enabled Miscavige (who was in the right time at the right place) to seize power when he died, apparently of a several strokes

We will never know now, but I speculate that Hubbard also suffered a brain injury in this incident, which went undiagnosed and untreated.  It would explain a lot about his subsequent behaviour.

You would think Miscavige would steer clear of motorcycles after they brought his guru low...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933566">Mymy88</a>.</p>
<p>Seriously, though&#8230; the incident in Tenarife when Hubbard came off his bike , breaking his arm and two ribs, marked the end of the original (sea-going) Sea Org and the beginning of Hubbard&#8217;s rapid physical and mental decline. </p>
<p>The fact that he soon became a sick, crotchety old man in hiding, completely out of touch, is what enabled Miscavige (who was in the right time at the right place) to seize power when he died, apparently of a several strokes</p>
<p>We will never know now, but I speculate that Hubbard also suffered a brain injury in this incident, which went undiagnosed and untreated.  It would explain a lot about his subsequent behaviour.</p>
<p>You would think Miscavige would steer clear of motorcycles after they brought his guru low&#8230;</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931783&quot;&gt;TheMirrorThetan&lt;/a&gt;.

LMAO!!!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931783">TheMirrorThetan</a>.</p>
<p>LMAO!!!!</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931796&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Does he just take the occasional blast around a Scientology compound to show that he can emulate Hubbard (apart from the falling off part, 
presumably) or...&quot;

As soon as I swallow back the puke up in my mouth, I&#039;ll answer that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-931796">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Does he just take the occasional blast around a Scientology compound to show that he can emulate Hubbard (apart from the falling off part,<br />
presumably) or&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>As soon as I swallow back the puke up in my mouth, I&#8217;ll answer that.</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 06:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933437&quot;&gt;Mark Foster&lt;/a&gt;.

You bad bad bad lol. I suggest we go with your idea and take the money we save and donate it to the Underground Bunker. Gosh, that sounded so... so... puritanical. That&#039;s just not me. I&#039;ll restate. We&#039;ll take the money we save and shove it up Pissc... wait.. no no no. Okay, I know. We&#039;ll buy TO a luxury vacation package to some tropical paradise, and force him to go, somehow. I don&#039;t know how though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/26/exclusive-secretly-taping-briefing-uncovers-precarious-state-of-scientology-right-now/comment-page-2/#comment-933437">Mark Foster</a>.</p>
<p>You bad bad bad lol. I suggest we go with your idea and take the money we save and donate it to the Underground Bunker. Gosh, that sounded so&#8230; so&#8230; puritanical. That&#8217;s just not me. I&#8217;ll restate. We&#8217;ll take the money we save and shove it up Pissc&#8230; wait.. no no no. Okay, I know. We&#8217;ll buy TO a luxury vacation package to some tropical paradise, and force him to go, somehow. I don&#8217;t know how though.</p>
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