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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Tomorrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2015 06:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-983908&quot;&gt;Mymy88&lt;/a&gt;.

Where did you go are you ok? Don&#039;t see much of you on the bunker anymore. My email is biwm30@gmail.com. Hope all is well!]]></description>
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<p>Where did you go are you ok? Don&#8217;t see much of you on the bunker anymore. My email is <a href="mailto:biwm30@gmail.com">biwm30@gmail.com</a>. Hope all is well!</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2015 09:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-984481&quot;&gt;Todd Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;.

I vaguely remember hearing that about the  co-pilots doing the takeoffs and landings, now. Thanks for the awesome links! I&#039;m going to see if I can order that book from my library because it would be free and if I can&#039;t, I&#039;ll definitely order it from Amazon. I have a question about Tenerife but my hands hurt from typing all day so I&#039;ll ask you tomorrow. It&#039;s about the ramp that PAN AM was asked to use.]]></description>
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<p>I vaguely remember hearing that about the  co-pilots doing the takeoffs and landings, now. Thanks for the awesome links! I&#8217;m going to see if I can order that book from my library because it would be free and if I can&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll definitely order it from Amazon. I have a question about Tenerife but my hands hurt from typing all day so I&#8217;ll ask you tomorrow. It&#8217;s about the ramp that PAN AM was asked to use.</p>
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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Tomorrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-983908&quot;&gt;Mymy88&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi,
   I got your message and replied. I might have replied to the wrong person, oops! I&#039;m not an ex-clam. We have a young relative that we tried to get out for a couple of years. Anyway, here is the link to the book; http://www.amazon.com/Skygods-Fall-Pan-Robert-Gandt/dp/0615611834/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1433961383&#038;sr=1-1&#038;keywords=sky+gods 
    It was written by a guy in Seattle. I knew his son but we never got along very well. But it is insightful because he addressed these issues and later they were found to be of such importance that the rules have been changed. Did you know that now the co-pilot is the one who usually does the takeoffs and landings now? My asst. just told me of another airbus computer glitch crash. http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/report-airbus-transport-crash-caused-by-wipe-of-critical-engine-control-data/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-983908">Mymy88</a>.</p>
<p>Hi,<br />
   I got your message and replied. I might have replied to the wrong person, oops! I&#8217;m not an ex-clam. We have a young relative that we tried to get out for a couple of years. Anyway, here is the link to the book; <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Skygods-Fall-Pan-Robert-Gandt/dp/0615611834/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1433961383&#038;sr=1-1&#038;keywords=sky+gods" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.amazon.com/Skygods-Fall-Pan-Robert-Gandt/dp/0615611834/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&#038;ie=UTF8&#038;qid=1433961383&#038;sr=1-1&#038;keywords=sky+gods</a><br />
    It was written by a guy in Seattle. I knew his son but we never got along very well. But it is insightful because he addressed these issues and later they were found to be of such importance that the rules have been changed. Did you know that now the co-pilot is the one who usually does the takeoffs and landings now? My asst. just told me of another airbus computer glitch crash. <a href="http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/report-airbus-transport-crash-caused-by-wipe-of-critical-engine-control-data/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/report-airbus-transport-crash-caused-by-wipe-of-critical-engine-control-data/</a></p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2015 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-919022&quot;&gt;Todd Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;.

Ugh! This one is the worst!!! Have you seen it? I put the link below. I saw it once a long time ago. I watched it again tonight not really remembering which one it was. Ugh, I had to skip over the whole part about what happened after they crashed. OMG. Link is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7g60nhInMM 

I sent you another reply about a week ago but I don&#039;t think I did it right, so I&#039;ll send it again. Oh wait, actually, I&#039;ll just post it again here (below):. 

I watched that one again today (Alaska Flight 261). Yes! It is definitely one of the more terrifying ones. I always have shows like this playing in the back ground when I&#039;m doing stuff. And to think it was just something that was not greased. They were flying that sucker upside down for a bit there. And then! There was a pilot who witnessed the whole thing. Damn, I bet he has nightmares about it for the rest of his life.

        I had a couple questions to ask you about the kid in the cockpit one but I was just now browsing through a forum and read something that pretty much covered it. I wanted to know if the pilots had been told about the differences between the two planes (one has alarm - other just small light comes on) and I also wondered if the pilots had even been told in the first place that the 30 second resist on the yoke would disengage a part of the auto-pilot. Also what about the recovery fuck up - like you mentioned, all they had to do was nothing and the plane would have corrected itself. On this forum I was reading it said that none of those things were told to the pilots, not that that&#039;s an excuse because god knows it was insane doing what the pilot did, but anyway, another perfect storm as usual.

        Jesus! You have flown a lot. Wow! How on earth did you pull that kind of thing off? Yes, I loved that movie &quot;Catch Me if You Can&quot;. Sorry, I didn&#039;t know you were an ex. Did you know that Kay&#039;s brother flies commercial airliners?

        There are so many of these shows, I certainly can&#039;t keep them all in my head at once. I know that Alaskan one was one that always stood out just because it was something so minor (lack of grease) that caused all that horror and everybody dying.

        Another one that stands out is the Swiss 111 I think it was? The one with the fire. Shit! That was unbelievable.

        The KLM and PA collision - I told you I wanted to send you this website that has this cool animation of everything that happened. The transmissions are supposedly timed with the planes movement but they are not, as far as I could tell, so it&#039;s not as if it is this amazingly accurate animation. I have not had time to look for it but I will.

        I am going to try to find that book also (Sky Gods). You wouldn&#039;t have remembered the authors name, would you?

I&#039;ll delete this after you read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-3/#comment-919022">Todd Tomorrow</a>.</p>
<p>Ugh! This one is the worst!!! Have you seen it? I put the link below. I saw it once a long time ago. I watched it again tonight not really remembering which one it was. Ugh, I had to skip over the whole part about what happened after they crashed. OMG. Link is <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7g60nhInMM" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7g60nhInMM</a> </p>
<p>I sent you another reply about a week ago but I don&#8217;t think I did it right, so I&#8217;ll send it again. Oh wait, actually, I&#8217;ll just post it again here (below):. </p>
<p>I watched that one again today (Alaska Flight 261). Yes! It is definitely one of the more terrifying ones. I always have shows like this playing in the back ground when I&#8217;m doing stuff. And to think it was just something that was not greased. They were flying that sucker upside down for a bit there. And then! There was a pilot who witnessed the whole thing. Damn, I bet he has nightmares about it for the rest of his life.</p>
<p>        I had a couple questions to ask you about the kid in the cockpit one but I was just now browsing through a forum and read something that pretty much covered it. I wanted to know if the pilots had been told about the differences between the two planes (one has alarm &#8211; other just small light comes on) and I also wondered if the pilots had even been told in the first place that the 30 second resist on the yoke would disengage a part of the auto-pilot. Also what about the recovery fuck up &#8211; like you mentioned, all they had to do was nothing and the plane would have corrected itself. On this forum I was reading it said that none of those things were told to the pilots, not that that&#8217;s an excuse because god knows it was insane doing what the pilot did, but anyway, another perfect storm as usual.</p>
<p>        Jesus! You have flown a lot. Wow! How on earth did you pull that kind of thing off? Yes, I loved that movie &#8220;Catch Me if You Can&#8221;. Sorry, I didn&#8217;t know you were an ex. Did you know that Kay&#8217;s brother flies commercial airliners?</p>
<p>        There are so many of these shows, I certainly can&#8217;t keep them all in my head at once. I know that Alaskan one was one that always stood out just because it was something so minor (lack of grease) that caused all that horror and everybody dying.</p>
<p>        Another one that stands out is the Swiss 111 I think it was? The one with the fire. Shit! That was unbelievable.</p>
<p>        The KLM and PA collision &#8211; I told you I wanted to send you this website that has this cool animation of everything that happened. The transmissions are supposedly timed with the planes movement but they are not, as far as I could tell, so it&#8217;s not as if it is this amazingly accurate animation. I have not had time to look for it but I will.</p>
<p>        I am going to try to find that book also (Sky Gods). You wouldn&#8217;t have remembered the authors name, would you?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll delete this after you read it.</p>
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		By: DangDadgummit		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DangDadgummit]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2015 14:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-2/#comment-918166&quot;&gt;jazzlover&lt;/a&gt;.

Dang !]]></description>
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<p>Dang !</p>
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		By: Skallene		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skallene]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2015 01:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-2/#comment-918732&quot;&gt;L. Wrong Hubturd&lt;/a&gt;.

I live in Mountain View CA and I have seen that add several times.     What startles me, is that I have family members who demonstrated and intelligence, drive, and persistence and when the commercial comes on, I think, what a disappointment that they lie about a mean coward when there are many, many men and women who did accomplish very important things so the lie is terrible.      LIE, LIE, LIE. HUBBARD LIVED A LONG LIFE OF LIES.]]></description>
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<p>I live in Mountain View CA and I have seen that add several times.     What startles me, is that I have family members who demonstrated and intelligence, drive, and persistence and when the commercial comes on, I think, what a disappointment that they lie about a mean coward when there are many, many men and women who did accomplish very important things so the lie is terrible.      LIE, LIE, LIE. HUBBARD LIVED A LONG LIFE OF LIES.</p>
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		By: Ruby Marlowe		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruby Marlowe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Apr 2015 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are the two wackos outside of Celebufucktard Centre doing that OT training routine (correct me if I&#039;m wrong) where they assign total strangers tones based on their actions to weed out who are &quot;friends&quot; and &quot;enemies&quot;?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are the two wackos outside of Celebufucktard Centre doing that OT training routine (correct me if I&#8217;m wrong) where they assign total strangers tones based on their actions to weed out who are &#8220;friends&#8221; and &#8220;enemies&#8221;?</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-917739&quot;&gt;Richard Grant&lt;/a&gt;.

Sadly, no Richard.

Real ludes haven&#039;t been made since the late 70s and findable anywhere since themid-80s..

Fora HILARIOUS take on this, see Scorsese&#039;s The Wolf of Wall Street;

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;qpvt=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;FORM=VDRE#view=detail&#038;mid=2C34FED0AA4876B6B9F22C34FED0AA4876B6B9F2

Sadly, this is one of the things Captain Howdy and I bonded over.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-917739">Richard Grant</a>.</p>
<p>Sadly, no Richard.</p>
<p>Real ludes haven&#8217;t been made since the late 70s and findable anywhere since themid-80s..</p>
<p>Fora HILARIOUS take on this, see Scorsese&#8217;s The Wolf of Wall Street;</p>
<p><a href="https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;qpvt=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;FORM=VDRE#view=detail&#038;mid=2C34FED0AA4876B6B9F22C34FED0AA4876B6B9F2" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;qpvt=wolf+wall+street+ludes+scene&#038;FORM=VDRE#view=detail&#038;mid=2C34FED0AA4876B6B9F22C34FED0AA4876B6B9F2</a></p>
<p>Sadly, this is one of the things Captain Howdy and I bonded over.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 18:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-917727&quot;&gt;Richard Grant&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not sure what more they could do &#039;smear&#039; wise, as long as theyhave no physical spokesperson to go lie to the cameras. It has to jut be attack pieces, paid ads and &#039;Who is... ?&#039; sites,the sort of thing they&#039;ve had on TOny for along time.

Then again, harassment (of his parents!) and hislef will almost certainly step up. And on poor Paulette as well..

The fact that he puts up with these shenanigans and doesn&#039;t complain about it really impresses me. HE seems to accept it as part of doing what he believes to be right and therefore he rises above; I see no animus in his post directly related to the jaw-dropping gall of accosting his parents at their place, for example, He does his job and lets the work speak for itself.

Scientology does nothign but vacuum money and destroy lives and then spends million whinging endlessly and &#039;striking back&#039;...

Something tell me tat when shit mountain finally flushes itself away, he&#039;ll have some stories to tell

(in passing-- I have to say, I am very saddened to see how clealry traumatized and paranid Pualette Cooper seems to be even today. I would so like her to live to enjoiya  time whne she knows they are finally defanged and shown for the wet pocorn-fart, humpty-dumpty too-late-for-viagra, vienna sausage-dicked, toilet graffitti-scrawling skid marks they are.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-1/#comment-917727">Richard Grant</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what more they could do &#8216;smear&#8217; wise, as long as theyhave no physical spokesperson to go lie to the cameras. It has to jut be attack pieces, paid ads and &#8216;Who is&#8230; ?&#8217; sites,the sort of thing they&#8217;ve had on TOny for along time.</p>
<p>Then again, harassment (of his parents!) and hislef will almost certainly step up. And on poor Paulette as well..</p>
<p>The fact that he puts up with these shenanigans and doesn&#8217;t complain about it really impresses me. HE seems to accept it as part of doing what he believes to be right and therefore he rises above; I see no animus in his post directly related to the jaw-dropping gall of accosting his parents at their place, for example, He does his job and lets the work speak for itself.</p>
<p>Scientology does nothign but vacuum money and destroy lives and then spends million whinging endlessly and &#8216;striking back&#8217;&#8230;</p>
<p>Something tell me tat when shit mountain finally flushes itself away, he&#8217;ll have some stories to tell</p>
<p>(in passing&#8211; I have to say, I am very saddened to see how clealry traumatized and paranid Pualette Cooper seems to be even today. I would so like her to live to enjoiya  time whne she knows they are finally defanged and shown for the wet pocorn-fart, humpty-dumpty too-late-for-viagra, vienna sausage-dicked, toilet graffitti-scrawling skid marks they are.)</p>
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		By: Fred G. Haseney		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 04:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-2/#comment-921797&quot;&gt;Todd Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the data on &quot;dedminate.&quot; So, who between us will see Mr. Ortega first? It&#039;ll be so cool to meet a Bunkerite (you); my &quot;first&quot;: the Angry Gay Pope at the debut of &lt;i&gt;Going Clear,&lt;/i&gt; the first showing, in fact, at the Arclight Cinerama Dome in Hollywood.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/04/19/another-wacky-scientology-testimonial-video-and-an-underground-bunker-announcement/comment-page-2/#comment-921797">Todd Tomorrow</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the data on &#8220;dedminate.&#8221; So, who between us will see Mr. Ortega first? It&#8217;ll be so cool to meet a Bunkerite (you); my &#8220;first&#8221;: the Angry Gay Pope at the debut of <i>Going Clear,</i> the first showing, in fact, at the Arclight Cinerama Dome in Hollywood.</p>
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