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		By: Deeana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844660&quot;&gt;valshifter&lt;/a&gt;.

And naïve enough to think one &quot;enters the ground of Corporate America&quot; by being approached by some guy on the street?
Perhaps we all need to re-remind our children/grandchildren of &quot;Stranger Danger&quot; long beyond the point when we all thought it was no longer needed!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844660">valshifter</a>.</p>
<p>And naïve enough to think one &#8220;enters the ground of Corporate America&#8221; by being approached by some guy on the street?<br />
Perhaps we all need to re-remind our children/grandchildren of &#8220;Stranger Danger&#8221; long beyond the point when we all thought it was no longer needed!</p>
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		By: Deeana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2015 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-843937&quot;&gt;Todd Tomorrow&lt;/a&gt;.

I would not have thought there was anybody left in this day and age naïve enough to fall for this kind of crap.  Especially someone who had attended college.
Were there other problems with this particular young person, I wonder?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-843937">Todd Tomorrow</a>.</p>
<p>I would not have thought there was anybody left in this day and age naïve enough to fall for this kind of crap.  Especially someone who had attended college.<br />
Were there other problems with this particular young person, I wonder?</p>
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		By: eucliditis		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eucliditis]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2015 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844199&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

As someone with a relative who received a purple heart and a bronze star, lying about it is offensive to the real heroes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844199">J. Swift</a>.</p>
<p>As someone with a relative who received a purple heart and a bronze star, lying about it is offensive to the real heroes.</p>
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		By: flyonthewall		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[flyonthewall]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2015 13:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[TEST]]></description>
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		By: Intergalactic Walrus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Intergalactic Walrus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Mar 2015 05:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Hamtaro		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hamtaro]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2015 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-847730&quot;&gt;Mymy88&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Mymy, I hadn&#039;t seen that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-847730">Mymy88</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Mymy, I hadn&#8217;t seen that.</p>
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		By: Mymy88		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mymy88]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2015 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844034&quot;&gt;Hamtaro&lt;/a&gt;.

Hamtaro, just in case you have not seen this yet, I think you will LOVE it. Your experience was mentioned in this article. Also in the comments section, Jesse Prince comments about it:

http://www.examiner.com/article/hbo-going-clear-documentary-unites-voices-against-scientology]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844034">Hamtaro</a>.</p>
<p>Hamtaro, just in case you have not seen this yet, I think you will LOVE it. Your experience was mentioned in this article. Also in the comments section, Jesse Prince comments about it:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.examiner.com/article/hbo-going-clear-documentary-unites-voices-against-scientology" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.examiner.com/article/hbo-going-clear-documentary-unites-voices-against-scientology</a></p>
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		By: Jenstnick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenstnick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 22:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-845143&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Good to know. I&#039;m in a neighboring district so I haven&#039;t been keeping up. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-845143">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Good to know. I&#8217;m in a neighboring district so I haven&#8217;t been keeping up. </p>
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		By: consigli3r3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[consigli3r3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-2/#comment-844341&quot;&gt;Elegant Mess&lt;/a&gt;.

It is a silly game. It is not unique to Scientology. To illustrate: try to express Cheerfulness with the physiology of a person in Grief. My kids love playing it, it is silly.  I caught someone doing it but we dare say nothing because you might be labeled as a &quot;joker and degrader&quot; not that it was intended but just having to spend time in Ethics trying to explain and answer questions. Time is too valuable and once used you don&#039;t get it back. I hope I have explained it to your satisfaction.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-2/#comment-844341">Elegant Mess</a>.</p>
<p>It is a silly game. It is not unique to Scientology. To illustrate: try to express Cheerfulness with the physiology of a person in Grief. My kids love playing it, it is silly.  I caught someone doing it but we dare say nothing because you might be labeled as a &#8220;joker and degrader&#8221; not that it was intended but just having to spend time in Ethics trying to explain and answer questions. Time is too valuable and once used you don&#8217;t get it back. I hope I have explained it to your satisfaction.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844343&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

THDNE - If you contact me at endingscilon at hushmail dot com, I would love to get involved.

Mr. Free, who does quite a bit of work with congressional staff, suggests identifying the congress members representing Clearwater and Hemet, and meeting with their staff to see if there might be interest  in Congressional hearings.  The can hold hearings without legislation, of course - they do it all the time.  They have called tobacco execs, auto execs, etc to testify.  

It looks like Hemet is represented by Raul Ruiz, MD, who is on the Veterans Affairs.  He is a Democrat and has set up free clinics in the area, so he may be aware of the medical abuses by the cult there - use of free clinics, failure to treat injured SO members, etc.  http://ruiz.house.gov/biography/

Clearwater is represented by Alan Grayson, also a Democrat - http://grayson.house.gov]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/03/18/another-secret-lives-outtake-the-neighbor-who-knew-knew-l-ron-hubbard-and-his-first-wife/comment-page-1/#comment-844343">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>THDNE &#8211; If you contact me at endingscilon at hushmail dot com, I would love to get involved.</p>
<p>Mr. Free, who does quite a bit of work with congressional staff, suggests identifying the congress members representing Clearwater and Hemet, and meeting with their staff to see if there might be interest  in Congressional hearings.  The can hold hearings without legislation, of course &#8211; they do it all the time.  They have called tobacco execs, auto execs, etc to testify.  </p>
<p>It looks like Hemet is represented by Raul Ruiz, MD, who is on the Veterans Affairs.  He is a Democrat and has set up free clinics in the area, so he may be aware of the medical abuses by the cult there &#8211; use of free clinics, failure to treat injured SO members, etc.  <a href="http://ruiz.house.gov/biography/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ruiz.house.gov/biography/</a></p>
<p>Clearwater is represented by Alan Grayson, also a Democrat &#8211; <a href="http://grayson.house.gov" rel="nofollow ugc">http://grayson.house.gov</a></p>
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