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		By: i-Betty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i-Betty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-794737&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent :)]]></description>
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<p>Excellent 🙂</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-794710&quot;&gt;i-Betty&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds interesting. 

Alternatively, you can simply send me a message via the feedback page of my blog which is at https://scicrit.wordpress.com/contact-us/ which will be automatically emailed to me.

Either way, I look forward to hearing from you both.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-794710">i-Betty</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds interesting. </p>
<p>Alternatively, you can simply send me a message via the feedback page of my blog which is at <a href="https://scicrit.wordpress.com/contact-us/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://scicrit.wordpress.com/contact-us/</a> which will be automatically emailed to me.</p>
<p>Either way, I look forward to hearing from you both.</p>
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		By: i-Betty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i-Betty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Feb 2015 16:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771473&quot;&gt;Once_Born&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi love. Graham and I have got in touch via email using this method. I will pop my email address here so you see it in your email notifications, then immediately remove it from my post. He and I are talking about the VM ad push in the UK and what can be done to combat it. I said you would be a good person to rope in. We would be the 3 Amigos :)  No pressure at all, though, so &lt;i&gt;please&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t feel obligated to email me. Either way, you will have my email address for future use.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771473">Once_Born</a>.</p>
<p>Hi love. Graham and I have got in touch via email using this method. I will pop my email address here so you see it in your email notifications, then immediately remove it from my post. He and I are talking about the VM ad push in the UK and what can be done to combat it. I said you would be a good person to rope in. We would be the 3 Amigos 🙂  No pressure at all, though, so <i>please</i> don&#8217;t feel obligated to email me. Either way, you will have my email address for future use.</p>
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		By: InTheNameOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InTheNameOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-768117&quot;&gt;Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris,

I&#039;m an ex-scn myself and completely understand the tone and content of these videos. I see that you are aiming to hep those still in to question authority but showing them respect and respect for Hubbard. These videos that you produce are the best exit counseling for any scn in doubt. If I had seen these 25 years ago as a scn it would have helped me to feel better about having doubt about being involved in the cult.

Your videos are well written, presented and articulate. I look forward to more videos in the future. Thank you for making them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-768117">Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol</a>.</p>
<p>Chris,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m an ex-scn myself and completely understand the tone and content of these videos. I see that you are aiming to hep those still in to question authority but showing them respect and respect for Hubbard. These videos that you produce are the best exit counseling for any scn in doubt. If I had seen these 25 years ago as a scn it would have helped me to feel better about having doubt about being involved in the cult.</p>
<p>Your videos are well written, presented and articulate. I look forward to more videos in the future. Thank you for making them.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2015 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771109&quot;&gt;Ella Raitch&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you very much. That was kind.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771109">Ella Raitch</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you very much. That was kind.</p>
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		By: ze moo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ze moo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-768170&quot;&gt;Richard Grant&lt;/a&gt;.

You see this behavior all over the clampire.  A Sea bOrg mission to HAPI that gets them to send clams to Clearwater, the same all over Europe. Buffalo NY and Cambridge Ont. seem to do the same thing. Life is tough when you&#039;re Lroons pimp......]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-768170">Richard Grant</a>.</p>
<p>You see this behavior all over the clampire.  A Sea bOrg mission to HAPI that gets them to send clams to Clearwater, the same all over Europe. Buffalo NY and Cambridge Ont. seem to do the same thing. Life is tough when you&#8217;re Lroons pimp&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		By: sam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771640&quot;&gt;DrGreatCham&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes.  As I said, I was responding to what you felt was worth passing along.  I don&#039;t find Lewis to be a very thoughtful author, so I doubt that pursuing his opinions would be fruitful.  I would be very surprised to find that his third path is any more honest than the quote you already provided.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771640">DrGreatCham</a>.</p>
<p>Yes.  As I said, I was responding to what you felt was worth passing along.  I don&#8217;t find Lewis to be a very thoughtful author, so I doubt that pursuing his opinions would be fruitful.  I would be very surprised to find that his third path is any more honest than the quote you already provided.</p>
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		By: DrGreatCham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DrGreatCham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771516&quot;&gt;sam&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s the danger of assuming from a quote.   Lewis actually DOES say that there is a third path, indirectly in the first chapter of SCREWTAPE and directly in the sequel &quot;Screwtape Proposes A Toast.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-771516">sam</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the danger of assuming from a quote.   Lewis actually DOES say that there is a third path, indirectly in the first chapter of SCREWTAPE and directly in the sequel &#8220;Screwtape Proposes A Toast.&#8221;</p>
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		By: sam		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[sam]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 15:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-769310&quot;&gt;DrGreatCham&lt;/a&gt;.

I’m just going by the quote you reference (It’s been too long since I’ve read it).  Lewis, through his fictional demon, says we have a ‘cruel dilemma’.  We can either engage in the idolatry of worshiping naturalism (i.e. the Materialist Magician, or vague ‘Forces’), or we can engage in the (still idolatry, in my opinion) worshiping of Lewis’ god and
supernaturalism.  This is a false dilemma.  A third, unstated option is to worship neither.  This propaganda is similar to LRH’s many statements that you can choose to either be a solution to society’s ills (i.e. join Scientology) or you can be part of the problem.  He is attempting to create a false dichotomy.

 

Again, people recovering from religion often speak of the tenacity of lingering religious emotional fears long after their cognitive beliefs have left.  I am sure there are many former Scientologists and ex-cult members who can attest to this, especially.  I’ve never heard a “new atheist” claim otherwise.  Perhaps, if a person were never reared to take seriously the idea of hell, for example, then that person would be somewhat inoculated from this fear.  Childhood indoctrination, however, runs deep.  Scientology provides a good counterexample demonstrating that even educated adults can be indoctrinated to fear, say, engrams and body thetans with enough pressure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-769310">DrGreatCham</a>.</p>
<p>I’m just going by the quote you reference (It’s been too long since I’ve read it).  Lewis, through his fictional demon, says we have a ‘cruel dilemma’.  We can either engage in the idolatry of worshiping naturalism (i.e. the Materialist Magician, or vague ‘Forces’), or we can engage in the (still idolatry, in my opinion) worshiping of Lewis’ god and<br />
supernaturalism.  This is a false dilemma.  A third, unstated option is to worship neither.  This propaganda is similar to LRH’s many statements that you can choose to either be a solution to society’s ills (i.e. join Scientology) or you can be part of the problem.  He is attempting to create a false dichotomy.</p>
<p>Again, people recovering from religion often speak of the tenacity of lingering religious emotional fears long after their cognitive beliefs have left.  I am sure there are many former Scientologists and ex-cult members who can attest to this, especially.  I’ve never heard a “new atheist” claim otherwise.  Perhaps, if a person were never reared to take seriously the idea of hell, for example, then that person would be somewhat inoculated from this fear.  Childhood indoctrination, however, runs deep.  Scientology provides a good counterexample demonstrating that even educated adults can be indoctrinated to fear, say, engrams and body thetans with enough pressure.</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Feb 2015 14:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-769126&quot;&gt;Douglas D. Douglas&lt;/a&gt;.

With explanatory text... surely?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/02/01/super-sunday-funnies-will-you-get-to-see-scientologys-ad-during-the-big-game-today/comment-page-1/#comment-769126">Douglas D. Douglas</a>.</p>
<p>With explanatory text&#8230; surely?</p>
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