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	Comments on: VIDEO LEAK: Another segment from Marty Rathbun&#8217;s deposition &#8212; his &#8216;Liability Formula&#8217;	</title>
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		By: Steve Bazemore		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Steve Bazemore]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting how he has gone from this to his latest video efforts...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting how he has gone from this to his latest video efforts&#8230;</p>
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		By: JackTheGiantKiller		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JackTheGiantKiller]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2015 18:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-745227&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

Miscavige is paying these lawyers not to defend him but to expose him, and overtly so. In his blind quest to Fair Game Marty, and in principal anyone else, he&#039;s dropped his guard and shown blatant disregard of [his] promise to keep certain information confidential. This time Miscavige has, in so many words, commanded his own attorneys to expose him as an absolute fraud.



Perhaps Miscavige will now become paranoid (if he isn&#039;t already) and accuse his attorneys of conspiring with Rathbun? Hmmm...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-745227">J. Swift</a>.</p>
<p>Miscavige is paying these lawyers not to defend him but to expose him, and overtly so. In his blind quest to Fair Game Marty, and in principal anyone else, he&#8217;s dropped his guard and shown blatant disregard of [his] promise to keep certain information confidential. This time Miscavige has, in so many words, commanded his own attorneys to expose him as an absolute fraud.</p>
<p>Perhaps Miscavige will now become paranoid (if he isn&#8217;t already) and accuse his attorneys of conspiring with Rathbun? Hmmm&#8230;</p>
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		By: i-Betty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i-Betty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-2/#comment-745673&quot;&gt;Shelly Britt Corrias&lt;/a&gt;.

Shelly, I have goosebumps all over my body from reading your explanation of sheer exhausted collapse. I feel it. It helps that I&#039;ve just finished Blown For Good so I have a much better understanding of people being worked beyond human limitations, but I&#039;m sickened by what happened to you and just so grateful that you are out of that hellhole. I&#039;m so sorry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-2/#comment-745673">Shelly Britt Corrias</a>.</p>
<p>Shelly, I have goosebumps all over my body from reading your explanation of sheer exhausted collapse. I feel it. It helps that I&#8217;ve just finished Blown For Good so I have a much better understanding of people being worked beyond human limitations, but I&#8217;m sickened by what happened to you and just so grateful that you are out of that hellhole. I&#8217;m so sorry.</p>
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		By: jho g		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jho g]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747903&quot;&gt;Joe Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

I left that cult 11 yrs ago, and still feel certain effects of the post-trauma from time to time. But I can recognize where it comes from. Basically I just wonder if the military has anything to do with the creation of cult leaders allowed to practice in America, even the leader of the cult in Jonestown ( that committed mass suicide with kool-aid ) had links to his past in CIA or military. I don&#039;t know much of Ron Hubbard&#039;s father and if he worked in secret black op operations, because if he did, then I wouldn&#039;t be surprised he&#039;d allow his son to be a part of a psy-ops research operation using the public as case studies and guniea pigs. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747903">Joe Howard</a>.</p>
<p>I left that cult 11 yrs ago, and still feel certain effects of the post-trauma from time to time. But I can recognize where it comes from. Basically I just wonder if the military has anything to do with the creation of cult leaders allowed to practice in America, even the leader of the cult in Jonestown ( that committed mass suicide with kool-aid ) had links to his past in CIA or military. I don&#8217;t know much of Ron Hubbard&#8217;s father and if he worked in secret black op operations, because if he did, then I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised he&#8217;d allow his son to be a part of a psy-ops research operation using the public as case studies and guniea pigs. </p>
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		By: True_poser		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-745433&quot;&gt;Jgg2012&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m sorry, but you&#039;re telling a heavily distorted apocryph at best.


M&#038;M was not written in 20s. 

In fact, it was not finished (not edited enough) when Bulgakov died in 1940. 

As it was first published in 1966, Stalin never read it as he died 13 years ago. 

Also, despite being on the loser side in the civil war, Bulgakov was never jailed. 


Bulgakov had run-ins with Stalin over plays, but that is a complex (as Stalin unbanned &quot;Dni Turbinikh&quot;) and unrelated to Voland from M&#038;M story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-745433">Jgg2012</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but you&#8217;re telling a heavily distorted apocryph at best.</p>
<p>M&amp;M was not written in 20s. </p>
<p>In fact, it was not finished (not edited enough) when Bulgakov died in 1940. </p>
<p>As it was first published in 1966, Stalin never read it as he died 13 years ago. </p>
<p>Also, despite being on the loser side in the civil war, Bulgakov was never jailed. </p>
<p>Bulgakov had run-ins with Stalin over plays, but that is a complex (as Stalin unbanned &#8220;Dni Turbinikh&#8221;) and unrelated to Voland from M&amp;M story.</p>
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		By: Joe Howard		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Howard]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747871&quot;&gt;jho g&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, hell, man, you&#039;re basically a Scientologist then. Welcome!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747871">jho g</a>.</p>
<p>Well, hell, man, you&#8217;re basically a Scientologist then. Welcome!</p>
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		By: jho g		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jho g]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 16:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747286&quot;&gt;Joe Howard&lt;/a&gt;.

No Mormonism is the opposite of what I went through. Mormons believe in free will, &quot;agency&quot;, one has free to believe what they want. Mormons compared to the cult I was a part of are very nice saintly people. But in the cult I was a part of was much more non-free will thinking. You had to believe everything they taught or else you weren&#039;t &quot;spiritual&quot; , &quot;doing bad spiritually&quot; and more labels like that. They even went as far as tellin you , you were rebellious, cowardly, unfaithful, etc etc. If you didn&#039;t come to every meeting, you were harassed by phone calks, unexpected visits at your home or workplace etc, you were subject to public humiliation , character assaination, even banned from dating the people in .leadership. The cults roots stemmed from a man whose father was in the military (Navy Admirals) and who&#039;s lineage came from politicians and religious leaders back in the turn of the century and more. He playgerized certain doctrines from Alexander Campbell and changed some things from other books he had read and created his own &quot;movement&quot;. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-1/#comment-747286">Joe Howard</a>.</p>
<p>No Mormonism is the opposite of what I went through. Mormons believe in free will, &#8220;agency&#8221;, one has free to believe what they want. Mormons compared to the cult I was a part of are very nice saintly people. But in the cult I was a part of was much more non-free will thinking. You had to believe everything they taught or else you weren&#8217;t &#8220;spiritual&#8221; , &#8220;doing bad spiritually&#8221; and more labels like that. They even went as far as tellin you , you were rebellious, cowardly, unfaithful, etc etc. If you didn&#8217;t come to every meeting, you were harassed by phone calks, unexpected visits at your home or workplace etc, you were subject to public humiliation , character assaination, even banned from dating the people in .leadership. The cults roots stemmed from a man whose father was in the military (Navy Admirals) and who&#8217;s lineage came from politicians and religious leaders back in the turn of the century and more. He playgerized certain doctrines from Alexander Campbell and changed some things from other books he had read and created his own &#8220;movement&#8221;. </p>
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		By: Truthiwant		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truthiwant]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-2/#comment-745842&quot;&gt;Truthiwant&lt;/a&gt;.

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		By: Sydjazz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 09:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Well done mark, ]]></description>
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		By: Jenstnick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenstnick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-2/#comment-745673&quot;&gt;Shelly Britt Corrias&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your insight, though I am sorry for all you have gone through. I&#039;m a never in, but I like Marty. He did terrible things in his past in the name of his &quot;church&quot; but I respect people who can own up to their shit and take responsibility. I understand why people don&#039;t like him, I don&#039;t fault them, but from my perspective, he takes responsibility. Meanwhile, I love further proof that David Miscavige is labeled a &quot;captain&quot;. Lol. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/23/video-leak-another-segment-from-marty-rathbuns-deposition-his-liability-formula/comment-page-2/#comment-745673">Shelly Britt Corrias</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your insight, though I am sorry for all you have gone through. I&#8217;m a never in, but I like Marty. He did terrible things in his past in the name of his &#8220;church&#8221; but I respect people who can own up to their shit and take responsibility. I understand why people don&#8217;t like him, I don&#8217;t fault them, but from my perspective, he takes responsibility. Meanwhile, I love further proof that David Miscavige is labeled a &#8220;captain&#8221;. Lol. </p>
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