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		By: GrandEclectus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GrandEclectus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2015 12:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This makes me physically ill.
1. They don&#039;t dip into the billions they already have...they just beg for more money. Tory talks about how they do this.
2. They want this kind of media outreach.
3. Tempering this...the names of Scientology and L.Ron Hubbard are rat poison. The general public knows it&#039;s a cult and a scam. Just look at any comment section of articles about them. With the exception of the obvious shills, people are overwhelmingly negative.
4. These building projects seem to be a vast distraction to the culties...keeping their attention on this nonsense.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This makes me physically ill.<br />
1. They don&#8217;t dip into the billions they already have&#8230;they just beg for more money. Tory talks about how they do this.<br />
2. They want this kind of media outreach.<br />
3. Tempering this&#8230;the names of Scientology and L.Ron Hubbard are rat poison. The general public knows it&#8217;s a cult and a scam. Just look at any comment section of articles about them. With the exception of the obvious shills, people are overwhelmingly negative.<br />
4. These building projects seem to be a vast distraction to the culties&#8230;keeping their attention on this nonsense.</p>
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		By: beef		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beef]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 18:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-2/#comment-734197&quot;&gt;April&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah he was one of the Houston control guys. Fuckin dweeb.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-2/#comment-734197">April</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah he was one of the Houston control guys. Fuckin dweeb.</p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus_Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2015 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-734641&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Speaking of holding onto some buildings longer than others, I was wondering about CC the other day.  My guess is that it will be one of the last to go, too.  When the cult shrinks down to a few hard-core acolytes, they can all hole up there.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-734641">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Speaking of holding onto some buildings longer than others, I was wondering about CC the other day.  My guess is that it will be one of the last to go, too.  When the cult shrinks down to a few hard-core acolytes, they can all hole up there.</p>
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		By: Miss Tia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Tia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2015 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-736696&quot;&gt;cathy from encino&lt;/a&gt;.

ooooo good one!! definitely multiple detective shows!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-736696">cathy from encino</a>.</p>
<p>ooooo good one!! definitely multiple detective shows!!</p>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Qbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 22:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-2/#comment-733996&quot;&gt;LHS&lt;/a&gt;.

No, LHS.  No correction required, you are absolutely right – this film does not involve Scn. Inc. at all.  
I was reading very quickly &#038; thought this thread was about what might/could/would be broadcast on the COS TV Channel.  I offered up this true story movie as an example, in line with their anti-psychiatry agenda, yes? 

 This &lt;i&gt;did&lt;/i&gt; occur in the early 50’s in Canada, and to my great dismay, elsewhere in the US as well.   Too many crazy-sick examples of using human beings as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.  The National Security Act of 1947 allowed for the creation of a super secret organizations within our government, specifically the CIA &#038; the AEC. These organizations supplied the finance &#038; ran programs that not only defied our constitution but also defiled morality in the name of ‘science’ &#038; national security.   These projects were in direct opposition to the Nuremberg Code.  Due to the passage of time, in 1977 and then again in 1999 the declassification of a lot of DOX occured,  and FOIA requests have revealed much.  And, sadly, it is indeed horrific.  

 You’ve been hanging @ the Bunker long enough to know who to pay attention to and who not to.  I’m one of those in the ‘not’ area – pay me no never mind, friend LHS.  I am usually very OT (off topic)… I admit, honestly, my bad.  The bunker tolerates it because at my core, they know, I mean no harm. 

I was born in ’58 and have never been a history buff.  However, of late, I have
been catching up.  Because of LRH’s story – I have been really interested in this time period – the end of WW2 &#038; the beginning of the Cold War – the time period when Hubbard was hanging around military hospitals, acting sick, wanting to get money for wounds that didn’t exist – the time period wherein he ‘created’ Dianetics.

 That shitbird Hubbard’s organization mirrors other secretive groups in very real ways. 
That may be the only link [in my mind] to the CO: compartmentalized information &#038; structure, strict organized deception, cover &#038; disinformation ploys, always using the defense, oh well, “the ends justify the means” – all designed specifically to manipulate people’s perceptions… and for the Fatman, all sold at a hefty price to gullible, unwitting, human beings.

Anyhoo ~ thanks for the reply (and a gentle reminder to stay on topic).

Cheers,  Q]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-2/#comment-733996">LHS</a>.</p>
<p>No, LHS.  No correction required, you are absolutely right – this film does not involve Scn. Inc. at all.<br />
I was reading very quickly &amp; thought this thread was about what might/could/would be broadcast on the COS TV Channel.  I offered up this true story movie as an example, in line with their anti-psychiatry agenda, yes? </p>
<p> This <i>did</i> occur in the early 50’s in Canada, and to my great dismay, elsewhere in the US as well.   Too many crazy-sick examples of using human beings as guinea pigs without their knowledge or consent.  The National Security Act of 1947 allowed for the creation of a super secret organizations within our government, specifically the CIA &amp; the AEC. These organizations supplied the finance &amp; ran programs that not only defied our constitution but also defiled morality in the name of ‘science’ &amp; national security.   These projects were in direct opposition to the Nuremberg Code.  Due to the passage of time, in 1977 and then again in 1999 the declassification of a lot of DOX occured,  and FOIA requests have revealed much.  And, sadly, it is indeed horrific.  </p>
<p> You’ve been hanging @ the Bunker long enough to know who to pay attention to and who not to.  I’m one of those in the ‘not’ area – pay me no never mind, friend LHS.  I am usually very OT (off topic)… I admit, honestly, my bad.  The bunker tolerates it because at my core, they know, I mean no harm. </p>
<p>I was born in ’58 and have never been a history buff.  However, of late, I have<br />
been catching up.  Because of LRH’s story – I have been really interested in this time period – the end of WW2 &amp; the beginning of the Cold War – the time period when Hubbard was hanging around military hospitals, acting sick, wanting to get money for wounds that didn’t exist – the time period wherein he ‘created’ Dianetics.</p>
<p> That shitbird Hubbard’s organization mirrors other secretive groups in very real ways.<br />
That may be the only link [in my mind] to the CO: compartmentalized information &amp; structure, strict organized deception, cover &amp; disinformation ploys, always using the defense, oh well, “the ends justify the means” – all designed specifically to manipulate people’s perceptions… and for the Fatman, all sold at a hefty price to gullible, unwitting, human beings.</p>
<p>Anyhoo ~ thanks for the reply (and a gentle reminder to stay on topic).</p>
<p>Cheers,  Q</p>
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		By: cathy from encino		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[cathy from encino]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733655&quot;&gt;Miss Tia&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh you need multiple detective shows. Confront &#038; Shatter: OSA can be a regular feature where OTRs have their garbage sorted through and shoved in their faces. Look, a bank account with $4000 in it! Why haven&#039;t you moved up in status in the last two months?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733655">Miss Tia</a>.</p>
<p>Oh you need multiple detective shows. Confront &amp; Shatter: OSA can be a regular feature where OTRs have their garbage sorted through and shoved in their faces. Look, a bank account with $4000 in it! Why haven&#8217;t you moved up in status in the last two months?</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-734981&quot;&gt;Miss Tia&lt;/a&gt;.

I now have a permanent place for the former KCET building lists.  They&#039;re under the general list of &lt;b&gt;$CIENTOLOGY STRUCTURES AND BOAT&lt;/b&gt;   http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/01/happy-new-year-2015-now-the-real-scientology-countdown-begins/#comment-1770020480   I still give you credit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-734981">Miss Tia</a>.</p>
<p>I now have a permanent place for the former KCET building lists.  They&#8217;re under the general list of <b>$CIENTOLOGY STRUCTURES AND BOAT</b>   <a href="http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/01/happy-new-year-2015-now-the-real-scientology-countdown-begins/#comment-1770020480" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/01/happy-new-year-2015-now-the-real-scientology-countdown-begins/#comment-1770020480</a>   I still give you credit.</p>
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		By: Miss Tia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Tia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733695&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Well thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733695">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Well thank you!</p>
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		By: Miss Tia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Tia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2015 12:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733709&quot;&gt;Elendira&lt;/a&gt;.

Ah, that&#039;s the dividing like....that would explain why I thought Iowa had W because most of the stations were in Illinois!! I lived 6 blocks from the Mississippi.....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733709">Elendira</a>.</p>
<p>Ah, that&#8217;s the dividing like&#8230;.that would explain why I thought Iowa had W because most of the stations were in Illinois!! I lived 6 blocks from the Mississippi&#8230;..</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2015 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733741&quot;&gt;Betsy&lt;/a&gt;.

It is hilarious.  Thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2015/01/14/scientology-reveals-a-lot-more-of-its-lofty-plans-for-the-former-kcet-studios/comment-page-1/#comment-733741">Betsy</a>.</p>
<p>It is hilarious.  Thanks.</p>
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