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	Comments on: Jon Atack packs a lot into a new short book &#8212; &#8216;Scientology: The Cult of Greed&#8217;	</title>
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		By: Peter Robinson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter Robinson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Has anyone else noted/commented on the use of the words &#039;Raw Public&#039;? So, if those &#039;Raw Public&#039; are then ensnared by scifiology do they become cooked? Their goose certainly is. What&#039;s more they will definitely be well done.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone else noted/commented on the use of the words &#8216;Raw Public&#8217;? So, if those &#8216;Raw Public&#8217; are then ensnared by scifiology do they become cooked? Their goose certainly is. What&#8217;s more they will definitely be well done.</p>
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		By: Ginger Sugerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ginger Sugerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah !!!!! Another book ! Thanks Jon !! I don&#039;t think for one minute those statistics posted on that promotional piece are true . NO WAY !!!!  Its bullshit !]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah !!!!! Another book ! Thanks Jon !! I don&#8217;t think for one minute those statistics posted on that promotional piece are true . NO WAY !!!!  Its bullshit !</p>
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		By: Ginger Sugerman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ginger Sugerman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2014 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697506&quot;&gt;OTVIIIisGrrr8!&lt;/a&gt;.

LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697506">OTVIIIisGrrr8!</a>.</p>
<p>LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO</p>
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		By: PinxEngrayz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PinxEngrayz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No definition of X axis necessary. Heck, could be over the course of a billion-year contract or all that &quot;growth&quot; is occurring in, say, the year 16376.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No definition of X axis necessary. Heck, could be over the course of a billion-year contract or all that &#8220;growth&#8221; is occurring in, say, the year 16376.</p>
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		By: Shanester		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Shanester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 15:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-698388&quot;&gt;PoisonIvyHerself&lt;/a&gt;.

The comments by Skip Press and Once_Born above -- particularly &lt;i&gt;&quot;If [Hubbard] had stayed in the writing business instead, he would not have stood a chance in the more discriminating market for books.&quot;&lt;/i&gt; -- had me pretty convinced I was confusing two good stories by Hubbard with actual writing skill. Your point about empathy and insight nails the coffin shut on Hubbard the Great Writer -- thanks for pointing it out.

These two powerfully written pieces, &quot;Fear&quot; and &quot;Typewriter in the Sky&quot; are notably stories of psychological horror and godlike control, and offer far more insight into Hubbard&#039;s character than they do into his skill as a writer. He was pretty obviously writing about himself, always his favorite subject, and so he made the extra effort to make the stories shine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-698388">PoisonIvyHerself</a>.</p>
<p>The comments by Skip Press and Once_Born above &#8212; particularly <i>&#8220;If [Hubbard] had stayed in the writing business instead, he would not have stood a chance in the more discriminating market for books.&#8221;</i> &#8212; had me pretty convinced I was confusing two good stories by Hubbard with actual writing skill. Your point about empathy and insight nails the coffin shut on Hubbard the Great Writer &#8212; thanks for pointing it out.</p>
<p>These two powerfully written pieces, &#8220;Fear&#8221; and &#8220;Typewriter in the Sky&#8221; are notably stories of psychological horror and godlike control, and offer far more insight into Hubbard&#8217;s character than they do into his skill as a writer. He was pretty obviously writing about himself, always his favorite subject, and so he made the extra effort to make the stories shine.</p>
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		By: califa007		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[califa007]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 08:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-698117&quot;&gt;Jon Atack&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you know how much Barbara (don&#039;t know her maiden name, but I later knew her as Barbara Snader) contributed to Science of Survival when they were on their jaunt in Palm Springs?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-698117">Jon Atack</a>.</p>
<p>Do you know how much Barbara (don&#8217;t know her maiden name, but I later knew her as Barbara Snader) contributed to Science of Survival when they were on their jaunt in Palm Springs?</p>
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		By: PoisonIvyHerself		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PoisonIvyHerself]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 06:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697084&quot;&gt;Shanester&lt;/a&gt;.

Another thing about writing - half of writing is rewriting.  Hubbard was too lazy (and had too short an attention span) to rewrite and too arrogant to believe he needed to finesse his work.  Personally I don&#039;t think he could&#039;ve been a great writer.  To be a great writer, one must have a mastery of the craft, but also empathy and insight, and the desire to speak one&#039;s truth.  If Hubbard had worked hard enough, he may have been able to master the craft (assuming he could put aside the arrogant belief that everything he wrote was gold right out of the typewriter), but he was incapable of true empathy (and therefore true insight; the ability to put ones&#039; self in another&#039;s place), and he was a pathological liar.  He lied even when there was no need for lying - when lying was actually NOT advantageous. &quot;Typewriter in the Sky&quot; was probably decent because there actually were elements of unabashed personal truth in it.  But IMHO he could never have been &quot;great.&quot;  Not in his chicken dung character.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697084">Shanester</a>.</p>
<p>Another thing about writing &#8211; half of writing is rewriting.  Hubbard was too lazy (and had too short an attention span) to rewrite and too arrogant to believe he needed to finesse his work.  Personally I don&#8217;t think he could&#8217;ve been a great writer.  To be a great writer, one must have a mastery of the craft, but also empathy and insight, and the desire to speak one&#8217;s truth.  If Hubbard had worked hard enough, he may have been able to master the craft (assuming he could put aside the arrogant belief that everything he wrote was gold right out of the typewriter), but he was incapable of true empathy (and therefore true insight; the ability to put ones&#8217; self in another&#8217;s place), and he was a pathological liar.  He lied even when there was no need for lying &#8211; when lying was actually NOT advantageous. &#8220;Typewriter in the Sky&#8221; was probably decent because there actually were elements of unabashed personal truth in it.  But IMHO he could never have been &#8220;great.&#8221;  Not in his chicken dung character.</p>
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		By: PoisonIvyHerself		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PoisonIvyHerself]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697022&quot;&gt;Richard Grant&lt;/a&gt;.

And what about whispering to your daughters?  Oh, never mind.  They&#039;ll just grow up to be women who&#039;ll create engrams for the embryos in their wombs when they attempt to abort them with coathangers on a weekly basis.  Forget about the daughters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697022">Richard Grant</a>.</p>
<p>And what about whispering to your daughters?  Oh, never mind.  They&#8217;ll just grow up to be women who&#8217;ll create engrams for the embryos in their wombs when they attempt to abort them with coathangers on a weekly basis.  Forget about the daughters.</p>
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		By: PoisonIvyHerself		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PoisonIvyHerself]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 06:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-696915&quot;&gt;Shanester&lt;/a&gt;.

Great comment, Shanester.  My sentiments exactly.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-696915">Shanester</a>.</p>
<p>Great comment, Shanester.  My sentiments exactly.</p>
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		By: Douglas D. Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas D. Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697576&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh yeah. When they talk about white people, they&#039;re talkin&#039; &#039;bout me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/12/12/jon-atack-packs-a-lot-into-a-new-short-book-scientology-the-cult-of-greed/comment-page-1/#comment-697576">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. When they talk about white people, they&#8217;re talkin&#8217; &#8217;bout me.</p>
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