Hi, Xique. Let me know if you would like Tory or Steve Hassan’s email address. You can reach me at txvaquera AT gmail DOT com.

Hey Kim is there a way to contact you outside of disqus?

I want to thank Jon for this article as I get people with family in pleading for something to do to free their minds and not antagonize them !

These are great resources and I look forward to learning a lot more.

Oh , and regarding the taking ideas from him : he has inspired so much of my work and given me so many clues you should assume unless I state otherwise that everything I write on the tech is at least partially ” stealing ” from him .

Really , in my initial research long ago ( Jan 2014 ) I read all the Mythbusting pieces and never believe a hypnotist and Scientology is an implant and those really set me on the path I am on today .

I wrote an email to Jon detailing many of the ways that helped me and have written on recovery beginnings at ESMB as well :http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37734-Recovery-Beginnings

Needless to say I have other stuff on the tech largely inspired by Jon’s work as well :http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37203-MOCKINGBIRD-RECOMMEND-S-A-SEQUENCE-OF-STUDY

Sorry, try this one: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JeHAt90vgq-BXK0Pa0Bs_XCc70drm7m3DruKcBG5Yd8/edit?usp=sharing

Link not working, but the idea of a standard place to put them is a good one.

All the best to you.

There is a difference between persuasion as in sharing information and persuasion as in manipulating behaviour. Margaret Singer offered the term ‘exploitative persuasion’ and her book, with the most excellent Janja Lalich, Cults in Our Midst, is a must read (as is Chuang Tze – especially the ‘essential’ first 7 chapters).

We cannot necessarily distinguish our motives for offering ideas to others. I have always enjoyed debate and unpicking an argument has a satisfaction for me – like resolving a Rubik’s cube or learning a complex drum rudiment. At times this infuriates others, either because I have aroused cognitive dissonance or because I have been tactless (or both). But the transformation of ideas is a joy, once you have learned to embrace that cognitive dissonance. Sometimes, I even learn something. Let me again and again recommend John Stuart Mill’s On Liberty as the basic text of critical thinking.

By communicating, we will persuade others, whether we like it or not and whether we intend it or not. If we communicate as accurately as possible, with tolerance for other points of view and without hiding the agenda, then education takes place. And I have found our conversation educational, so thank you!

Hi Robert & Graham,
Thanks for reporting non clams ads. I must confess that having done the extract & posting I do not quality control too well especially all the ads that came through while I sleep. I have devised a small procedure for you and anybody else
to use, it highlights any counter ads and disables any non clam ads.
The RedXQualControl Spreadsheet.
Insert the URLs (links) from row 4 onward, leave 3 as an example (non activated). If it is a counter ad type a “y” in column B, for non-clam
leave column B blank.
After each trawling session a script will run and highlight or disable any reported link and will refresh the RedXQualControl sheet by removing all the links acted upon.
Check it out and book mark it: https://docs.google.com/spread…

Thanks for your help and dedication.