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		By: i-Betty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i-Betty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2015 13:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215&quot;&gt;Tom Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m so sorry you&#039;ve not been able to escape yet :(

You know, the fastest way out is through the door. They can&#039;t actually stop you from leaving. It&#039;s the prison of your mind that is keeping you there. 

Best of luck. 

PS. The freeloader debt is legally unforceable. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215">Tom Reynolds</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so sorry you&#8217;ve not been able to escape yet 🙁</p>
<p>You know, the fastest way out is through the door. They can&#8217;t actually stop you from leaving. It&#8217;s the prison of your mind that is keeping you there. </p>
<p>Best of luck. </p>
<p>PS. The freeloader debt is legally unforceable. </p>
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		By: CarolDuhart2		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CarolDuhart2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215&quot;&gt;Tom Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;.

We will be here when you wake up. Your anti-entheta couldn&#039;t keep the movie from being made, the books from being written, or the Cincinnati org from closing. Get out now while you still can choose another path.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215">Tom Reynolds</a>.</p>
<p>We will be here when you wake up. Your anti-entheta couldn&#8217;t keep the movie from being made, the books from being written, or the Cincinnati org from closing. Get out now while you still can choose another path.</p>
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		By: GrandEclectus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GrandEclectus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2015 03:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215&quot;&gt;Tom Reynolds&lt;/a&gt;.

Soon you will bow down to Xenu! He is the supreme rulah! According to LRH.

When you&#039;ve had enough lies and abuse, there are many support groups to help you recover from the abuses of the cult. Maybe you&#039;ve never experienced thr RPF, or been sickened by the purification run down, or been disconnected from your loved ones...but one day you will be. And you will need to escape.

I hope you get the real help you need, sincerely, I mean that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-756215">Tom Reynolds</a>.</p>
<p>Soon you will bow down to Xenu! He is the supreme rulah! According to LRH.</p>
<p>When you&#8217;ve had enough lies and abuse, there are many support groups to help you recover from the abuses of the cult. Maybe you&#8217;ve never experienced thr RPF, or been sickened by the purification run down, or been disconnected from your loved ones&#8230;but one day you will be. And you will need to escape.</p>
<p>I hope you get the real help you need, sincerely, I mean that.</p>
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		By: Tom Reynolds		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tom Reynolds]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2015 11:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Sounds like your little &quot;birthday party&quot; was actually a covert meeting of rival ex-Scientologists with a nefarious agenda.
Glad the meeting was exposed by CoS, which is the only reason you guys have been open about it at all.
Win for CoS!
Personal defeat for entheta!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like your little &#8220;birthday party&#8221; was actually a covert meeting of rival ex-Scientologists with a nefarious agenda.<br />
Glad the meeting was exposed by CoS, which is the only reason you guys have been open about it at all.<br />
Win for CoS!<br />
Personal defeat for entheta!!</p>
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		By: Holly Louise		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Holly Louise]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2014 13:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-680039&quot;&gt;Mark Fisher&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, Mark. Your very sane and rational comments are appreciated. 

Folks who managed to extricate themselves from a destructive cult ought not now be guilted and bullied by the likes of Skip Press into joining his anti-cult cult. Free people can make their own choices based on their own reasons best known to themselves, and not understood by Mr. Press, self-appointed commodore of his anti-cult.  

I am not referring to this publication which has been fantastic help to those recovering from scientology and the sea org, please do not misunderstand; I am referring ONLY to such comments as Mr. Press is making in trying to guilt people into harming themselves and their families through exposure they do not wish to do, effectively doing again to them what they were unwitting victims of decades ago! 

Advice to Press, who thinks he knows best and can make such dictates, and thinks he is &quot;bright&quot; enough to discuss how &quot;bright&quot; others are (ref. above comment on the &#039;Gillham girls&#039;) do your own thing and permit free people to go about living their own free lives as they see fit.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-680039">Mark Fisher</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, Mark. Your very sane and rational comments are appreciated. </p>
<p>Folks who managed to extricate themselves from a destructive cult ought not now be guilted and bullied by the likes of Skip Press into joining his anti-cult cult. Free people can make their own choices based on their own reasons best known to themselves, and not understood by Mr. Press, self-appointed commodore of his anti-cult.  </p>
<p>I am not referring to this publication which has been fantastic help to those recovering from scientology and the sea org, please do not misunderstand; I am referring ONLY to such comments as Mr. Press is making in trying to guilt people into harming themselves and their families through exposure they do not wish to do, effectively doing again to them what they were unwitting victims of decades ago! </p>
<p>Advice to Press, who thinks he knows best and can make such dictates, and thinks he is &#8220;bright&#8221; enough to discuss how &#8220;bright&#8221; others are (ref. above comment on the &#8216;Gillham girls&#8217;) do your own thing and permit free people to go about living their own free lives as they see fit.</p>
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		By: Meccaanon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Meccaanon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2014 10:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-679992&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

This has got legs. Do it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-679992">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>This has got legs. Do it!</p>
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		By: Ardent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ardent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 17:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-680073&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow. I wish I could catch it - I don&#039;t get that channel any more. Sh*^%!
I really want to see that film. Thanks so much for thinking of me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-680073">beauty for ashes</a>.</p>
<p>Wow. I wish I could catch it &#8211; I don&#8217;t get that channel any more. Sh*^%!<br />
I really want to see that film. Thanks so much for thinking of me.</p>
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		By: Ella Raitch		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ella Raitch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2014 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-679987&quot;&gt;HillieOnTheBeach&lt;/a&gt;.

New thread on Mr Beverley started on ESMB today:
http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37719-Is-Jim-Beverly-on-OSA-payroll]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-679987">HillieOnTheBeach</a>.</p>
<p>New thread on Mr Beverley started on ESMB today:<br />
<a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37719-Is-Jim-Beverly-on-OSA-payroll" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?37719-Is-Jim-Beverly-on-OSA-payroll</a></p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2014 06:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-681798&quot;&gt;Skip Press&lt;/a&gt;.

You are very welcome! Wow, may be. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-2/#comment-681798">Skip Press</a>.</p>
<p>You are very welcome! Wow, may be. Have a Happy Thanksgiving!</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-680229&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

I quite agree; There is much truth in what he said.

His response to me needlessly perosonalized the issue, however, and I stand by my statement that these people have yet to make any &#039;great public contribution&#039; that I have heard of, certainly nothing on the order of magnitude of their decades of deceit and service to a malignant organization. Publishing books explaining how to continue following HUbabrd, or lionizing their sefice as being a &#039;warrior&#039; do not count.

Part of positioningoneself as a public figure is the repsoinsibility to answer for ones actions and statements. IF it was incorrect, it is not enough to change ones mind and apologize in private whilst cashing cheques from the sales of books full of repeated piison and lies (however well-intentioned).

It is not too late. I do believe Marty is on the right track. No, I&#039;m not perfect-- But then I haven&#039;t pulblished books tlelingpeole how to bcome perfect and expalinging how ROn Hubbard was, nor was I the enforcer for such an organiation?. As such, my repsonsibilities are different.

ANONYMOUS wasn&#039;t in Scientology either. No one elected them. 

But thank god they were there to make up for the hundred of ass-kissing enablers calling out critics for &#039;judging&#039; whilst they judge who is making &#039;great public contributions&#039;. And I&#039;ll take Anonymous&#039; contribution  over any &#039;Indie&#039;s any day of the week.

Irony much?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/23/las-vegas-reunion-scientology-spying-on-former-members-more-than-20-years-after-they-left/comment-page-1/#comment-680229">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>I quite agree; There is much truth in what he said.</p>
<p>His response to me needlessly perosonalized the issue, however, and I stand by my statement that these people have yet to make any &#8216;great public contribution&#8217; that I have heard of, certainly nothing on the order of magnitude of their decades of deceit and service to a malignant organization. Publishing books explaining how to continue following HUbabrd, or lionizing their sefice as being a &#8216;warrior&#8217; do not count.</p>
<p>Part of positioningoneself as a public figure is the repsoinsibility to answer for ones actions and statements. IF it was incorrect, it is not enough to change ones mind and apologize in private whilst cashing cheques from the sales of books full of repeated piison and lies (however well-intentioned).</p>
<p>It is not too late. I do believe Marty is on the right track. No, I&#8217;m not perfect&#8211; But then I haven&#8217;t pulblished books tlelingpeole how to bcome perfect and expalinging how ROn Hubbard was, nor was I the enforcer for such an organiation?. As such, my repsonsibilities are different.</p>
<p>ANONYMOUS wasn&#8217;t in Scientology either. No one elected them. </p>
<p>But thank god they were there to make up for the hundred of ass-kissing enablers calling out critics for &#8216;judging&#8217; whilst they judge who is making &#8216;great public contributions&#8217;. And I&#8217;ll take Anonymous&#8217; contribution  over any &#8216;Indie&#8217;s any day of the week.</p>
<p>Irony much?</p>
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