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	Comments on: L. Ron Hubbard, deadbeat dad ALSO: Former members of Scientology show off their stuff	</title>
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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaxSpaceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1151026&quot;&gt;eMassif&lt;/a&gt;.

like many others I&#039;m assuming one of her staff got bamboozled.


Her WRAP is part of every discharge plan in New York State. And is wildly successful selling into Fortune 1000 to help stabilize individuals with substance use disorder and/or mental health disorder.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-1151026">eMassif</a>.</p>
<p>like many others I&#8217;m assuming one of her staff got bamboozled.</p>
<p>Her WRAP is part of every discharge plan in New York State. And is wildly successful selling into Fortune 1000 to help stabilize individuals with substance use disorder and/or mental health disorder.</p>
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		By: eMassif		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[eMassif]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677634&quot;&gt;MaxSpaceman&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know the effectiveness of Ms. Copeland&#039;s WRAP, but I do know 
that she is listed on the Scientology&#039;s front organization, CCHR, as a 
recommended link and as a writer for Mad in America with 
Peter Breggin and Ted Chabasinski, other supporters of CHRS. 
http://www.madinamerica.com/writers/

http://www.cchrnewengland.org/recommended-links/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677634">MaxSpaceman</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the effectiveness of Ms. Copeland&#8217;s WRAP, but I do know<br />
that she is listed on the Scientology&#8217;s front organization, CCHR, as a<br />
recommended link and as a writer for Mad in America with<br />
Peter Breggin and Ted Chabasinski, other supporters of CHRS.<br />
<a href="http://www.madinamerica.com/writers/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.madinamerica.com/writers/</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.cchrnewengland.org/recommended-links/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cchrnewengland.org/recommended-links/</a></p>
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		By: Miss Tia		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Miss Tia]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2014 15:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677634&quot;&gt;MaxSpaceman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Max, i will check that out! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677634">MaxSpaceman</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Max, i will check that out! 🙂</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 07:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678732&quot;&gt;nommables&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s my pleasure. Thank you! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678732">nommables</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s my pleasure. Thank you! 🙂</p>
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		By: C.M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C.M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2014 02:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678851&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for cheering me on. Yeah, I would never take half measures if kids and family weren&#039;t involved. Moreover because my kids are unwilling to drink the Kool-Aid too much. So I will see how this will turn out and base my decisions as things unfold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678851">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for cheering me on. Yeah, I would never take half measures if kids and family weren&#8217;t involved. Moreover because my kids are unwilling to drink the Kool-Aid too much. So I will see how this will turn out and base my decisions as things unfold.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678480&quot;&gt;C.M.&lt;/a&gt;.

Fingers crossed.

I’m not sure there are any half measures when dealing with OSA-types, but I haven’t really and to and I certainly don’t have kid sin play. 
Let us know how it is going, will you? I hate to think of good people in such nasty situations..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678480">C.M.</a>.</p>
<p>Fingers crossed.</p>
<p>I’m not sure there are any half measures when dealing with OSA-types, but I haven’t really and to and I certainly don’t have kid sin play.<br />
Let us know how it is going, will you? I hate to think of good people in such nasty situations..</p>
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		By: nommables		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nommables]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677774&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you! I always appreciate your posts, shoops &#038; sense of humor.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-677774">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you! I always appreciate your posts, shoops &amp; sense of humor.</p>
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		By: Verve		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Verve]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-676424&quot;&gt;Lori Hodgson&lt;/a&gt;.

The Monkey Horde is with you.  If you need poo to be flung...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-676424">Lori Hodgson</a>.</p>
<p>The Monkey Horde is with you.  If you need poo to be flung&#8230;</p>
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		By: C.M.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[C.M.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678463&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

I will! Its complicated though, because the kids don&#039;t want to chose between either of us (and why would they?--generally we have both been good for them). Plus there are more sciloon family connected like their grandparents cousins etc... so, OSA already tried to offer something... but I didn&#039;t bite yet. My goal is to educate my kids so that they make up their minds. Hopefully if they see how fucked up everything is in scientology they will choose for sanity.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-678463">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>I will! Its complicated though, because the kids don&#8217;t want to chose between either of us (and why would they?&#8211;generally we have both been good for them). Plus there are more sciloon family connected like their grandparents cousins etc&#8230; so, OSA already tried to offer something&#8230; but I didn&#8217;t bite yet. My goal is to educate my kids so that they make up their minds. Hopefully if they see how fucked up everything is in scientology they will choose for sanity.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2014 02:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-676646&quot;&gt;Kim O&#039;Brien&lt;/a&gt;.

Glad to be of help getting you fired!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/19/l-ron-hubbard-deadbeat-dad-also-former-members-of-scientology-show-off-their-stuff/comment-page-1/#comment-676646">Kim O&#8217;Brien</a>.</p>
<p>Glad to be of help getting you fired!</p>
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