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	Comments on: Scientology Photoshopping: Erasing L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s second wife from &#8216;The RON Series&#8217;	</title>
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		By: tigger		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tigger]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Mar 2017 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672408&quot;&gt;Cece&lt;/a&gt;.

Someone liked this 2 years later.  What a difference 2 years makes.  I was most definitely &#039;a drone&#039;.  I was brainwashed and told what to do and how to think.  No doubt about it.  For the record - it is possible to undo :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672408">Cece</a>.</p>
<p>Someone liked this 2 years later.  What a difference 2 years makes.  I was most definitely &#8216;a drone&#8217;.  I was brainwashed and told what to do and how to think.  No doubt about it.  For the record &#8211; it is possible to undo 🙂</p>
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		By: Poopdeck		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Poopdeck]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2015 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[L. Ron Hubbard used to smoke a lot and did not hide it. The Church of Scientology is now photoshopping out the cigarettes from his old photos]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>L. Ron Hubbard used to smoke a lot and did not hide it. The Church of Scientology is now photoshopping out the cigarettes from his old photos</p>
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		By: ryan wheeler		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ryan wheeler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2015 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ive read your stuff and its all things i knew 15 years ago. Point being-so what??
You really want to save a few people, do something that makes the police
Knock down the gates to the ranch and check every single room and closet.
Do you know that catholic church + christian missionaries are worse.
These people still go overseas to convert villagers knowing fully it will
Get the converts killed. Oooh, photoshop. You think nobody has google, 
It&#039;s your basic breakup picture, everybody does it. You assume scientologists 
Are naive robots who dont know about lrh. They do. Heres the bittet truth:
The world is so shitty to live in, they would rather leave &quot;everything&quot; (shitty
People,friends,job,house,spouse,city, struggle) and be taken away from
All the world. Theyre lonely, theyre struggling, all faith is lost in kindness
Of humanity. They have an instant family. A home. Maybe that goes for 
Convert villagers too. They convert to loving jesus means they die. They
Must think, what am i leaving really? Everyone choses something. Or
Choses to believe one lie over another. Lets say you show someone &quot;the
Light&quot; what is there in return? Only to come back to the shittiness of
Regular life]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive read your stuff and its all things i knew 15 years ago. Point being-so what??<br />
You really want to save a few people, do something that makes the police<br />
Knock down the gates to the ranch and check every single room and closet.<br />
Do you know that catholic church + christian missionaries are worse.<br />
These people still go overseas to convert villagers knowing fully it will<br />
Get the converts killed. Oooh, photoshop. You think nobody has google,<br />
It&#8217;s your basic breakup picture, everybody does it. You assume scientologists<br />
Are naive robots who dont know about lrh. They do. Heres the bittet truth:<br />
The world is so shitty to live in, they would rather leave &#8220;everything&#8221; (shitty<br />
People,friends,job,house,spouse,city, struggle) and be taken away from<br />
All the world. Theyre lonely, theyre struggling, all faith is lost in kindness<br />
Of humanity. They have an instant family. A home. Maybe that goes for<br />
Convert villagers too. They convert to loving jesus means they die. They<br />
Must think, what am i leaving really? Everyone choses something. Or<br />
Choses to believe one lie over another. Lets say you show someone &#8220;the<br />
Light&#8221; what is there in return? Only to come back to the shittiness of<br />
Regular life</p>
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		By: scottmercer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scottmercer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ha!  Even prior to $cientology, even prior to Dianetics, even when just promoting his crappy books, he still blusters ahead with the bald-faced lies with nothing but the assertion that &quot;research has proven&quot; to prop up his tall tales.  Such balderdash is quaint and charming for an eccentric science fiction writer, even to be admired. But in a megalomaniac that tried to take over small African nations with his own private navy, it&#039;s much more troubling and problematic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha!  Even prior to $cientology, even prior to Dianetics, even when just promoting his crappy books, he still blusters ahead with the bald-faced lies with nothing but the assertion that &#8220;research has proven&#8221; to prop up his tall tales.  Such balderdash is quaint and charming for an eccentric science fiction writer, even to be admired. But in a megalomaniac that tried to take over small African nations with his own private navy, it&#8217;s much more troubling and problematic.</p>
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		By: Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2014 03:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672035&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Expertise... loosely defined.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672035">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Expertise&#8230; loosely defined.</p>
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		By: Once_Born		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Once_Born]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 21:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672280&quot;&gt;Michael Leonard Tilse&lt;/a&gt;.

If that&#039;s what you say it is, I defer to your greater experience with the e-meter. 

The dispincitve&#039;tandem&#039; e-meter was one of Mathison&#039;s &#039;special&#039; models - and I don&#039;t know what to make of its presence - did Hubbard ever use such a thing?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672280">Michael Leonard Tilse</a>.</p>
<p>If that&#8217;s what you say it is, I defer to your greater experience with the e-meter. </p>
<p>The dispincitve&#8217;tandem&#8217; e-meter was one of Mathison&#8217;s &#8216;special&#8217; models &#8211; and I don&#8217;t know what to make of its presence &#8211; did Hubbard ever use such a thing?</p>
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		By: Eclipse-girl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eclipse-girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672439&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

I hope so.  I believe she was treated so badly in the past and that living well  is the best revenge.


I think that is some of what gets to The Midget , he just can not stand to see people living well after they &quot;blow.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672439">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>I hope so.  I believe she was treated so badly in the past and that living well  is the best revenge.</p>
<p>I think that is some of what gets to The Midget , he just can not stand to see people living well after they &#8220;blow.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Golden Age of Blech		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Golden Age of Blech]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672435&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

As a musician, I couldn&#039;t stomach more than two minutes. Ugg. Terrible. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-1/#comment-672435">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>As a musician, I couldn&#8217;t stomach more than two minutes. Ugg. Terrible. </p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672310&quot;&gt;Pierrot&lt;/a&gt;.

I believe that this is our old friend JJ, who (for the benefit of those who have not followed the REDX campaign obsessively) used to spam the board with Scieno ads at a remarkable pace.  I also believe that teaching ESL is his day job, the way he makes a living.  I am of two minds about flagging him:  if he is actually preying on his students, that is one thing, but we don&#039;t know that that is the case, and at least he has stopped the mass spams.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672310">Pierrot</a>.</p>
<p>I believe that this is our old friend JJ, who (for the benefit of those who have not followed the REDX campaign obsessively) used to spam the board with Scieno ads at a remarkable pace.  I also believe that teaching ESL is his day job, the way he makes a living.  I am of two minds about flagging him:  if he is actually preying on his students, that is one thing, but we don&#8217;t know that that is the case, and at least he has stopped the mass spams.</p>
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		By: Jimmy3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2014 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672431&quot;&gt;Eclipse-girl&lt;/a&gt;.

You didn&#039;t offend, I was only teasing as usual. ;)  After you said that, though, I had to look up her IMDB page, because I couldn&#039;t recall a movie she&#039;s been in.  Apparently she&#039;s been in a few, but no memorable roles to speak of, so I get what you&#039;re saying.  It can&#039;t be long before she&#039;s cast in a hit, though, right?  She&#039;s good looking, but not in a traditional American way, and she can really act.  There are roles for her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/12/scientology-photoshopping-erasing-l-ron-hubbards-second-wife-from-the-ron-series/comment-page-2/#comment-672431">Eclipse-girl</a>.</p>
<p>You didn&#8217;t offend, I was only teasing as usual. 😉  After you said that, though, I had to look up her IMDB page, because I couldn&#8217;t recall a movie she&#8217;s been in.  Apparently she&#8217;s been in a few, but no memorable roles to speak of, so I get what you&#8217;re saying.  It can&#8217;t be long before she&#8217;s cast in a hit, though, right?  She&#8217;s good looking, but not in a traditional American way, and she can really act.  There are roles for her.</p>
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