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	Comments on: Dani Lemberger, who led a breakaway Israel mission, sues Scientology for libel and fraud	</title>
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		By: Jenni		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Nov 2014 17:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I would like to see more missions leaving the corporate Scientology network, and I believe this will happen.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to see more missions leaving the corporate Scientology network, and I believe this will happen.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666011&quot;&gt;Frodis73&lt;/a&gt;.

*shudder*]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666011">Frodis73</a>.</p>
<p>*shudder*</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667021&quot;&gt;Exterrier&lt;/a&gt;.

LRH really didn&#039;t care about anyone else, and DM just cares if they bring in the money.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667021">Exterrier</a>.</p>
<p>LRH really didn&#8217;t care about anyone else, and DM just cares if they bring in the money.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2014 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667020&quot;&gt;Exterrier&lt;/a&gt;.

For some reason, I missed your two posts.  I agree.  Selfishness, an LRH attribute, and magnified by DM, is now a virtue.

http://www.cracked.com/video_18426_ayn-rand-5Bplaceholder5D.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667020">Exterrier</a>.</p>
<p>For some reason, I missed your two posts.  I agree.  Selfishness, an LRH attribute, and magnified by DM, is now a virtue.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cracked.com/video_18426_ayn-rand-5Bplaceholder5D.html" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.cracked.com/video_18426_ayn-rand-5Bplaceholder5D.html</a></p>
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		By: Ardent		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667635</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ardent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 17:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667055&quot;&gt;beauty for ashes&lt;/a&gt;.

Right! I read that in Falk&#039;s brief autobiography. It is a very simple, short book, but fun if you are a fan. Try ABE Books to get a copy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667055">beauty for ashes</a>.</p>
<p>Right! I read that in Falk&#8217;s brief autobiography. It is a very simple, short book, but fun if you are a fan. Try ABE Books to get a copy.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667168&quot;&gt;scnethics&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for clarifying that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-667168">scnethics</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for clarifying that.</p>
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		By: Roadrunner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roadrunner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-665836&quot;&gt;Vistaril&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry, wrong policy letter, that text is supposedly deriving from an article in Scn magazine Certainty (Feb 60). It is not even in those policy volumes.

Being declared SP is still no reason to assume the person &quot;no longer considers the matter important&quot;. This condition of SP is assigned by the church, NOT the person himself!

By the way, found this: “Overts disclosed in sessions may not be used for justice purposes. Therefore only crimes discovered by routine investigation are actionable.” LRH
(from HCO PL 15 Nov 70 “Confessionals”)

This goes against the claim that &quot;ample evidence of other policy developed by L Ron Hubbard which explicitly states that information gathered during &quot;confessions&quot; must be shared with the Ethics Personnel&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-665836">Vistaril</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry, wrong policy letter, that text is supposedly deriving from an article in Scn magazine Certainty (Feb 60). It is not even in those policy volumes.</p>
<p>Being declared SP is still no reason to assume the person &#8220;no longer considers the matter important&#8221;. This condition of SP is assigned by the church, NOT the person himself!</p>
<p>By the way, found this: “Overts disclosed in sessions may not be used for justice purposes. Therefore only crimes discovered by routine investigation are actionable.” LRH<br />
(from HCO PL 15 Nov 70 “Confessionals”)</p>
<p>This goes against the claim that &#8220;ample evidence of other policy developed by L Ron Hubbard which explicitly states that information gathered during &#8220;confessions&#8221; must be shared with the Ethics Personnel&#8221;.</p>
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		By: scnethics		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scnethics]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 03:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666765&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

No way!  Poe&#039;s Law!  Just giving the reasoning the church has for not paying it forward.  I don&#039;t agree with it at all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666765">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>No way!  Poe&#8217;s Law!  Just giving the reasoning the church has for not paying it forward.  I don&#8217;t agree with it at all.</p>
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		By: Deeana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deeana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Nov 2014 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What exactly is Cof$ using to blackmail people with?  Details of their sex life?  Unless you are Tom Cruise or John Travolta, who cares?  (And even those two, who cares?)
On the other hand, if someone was confessing crimes during auditing, how sorry can one be for the person?  On the one hand, people say that those who were confessing in auditing to molesting children should have been turned in to the police.  And I agree with that.  But if someone was confessing to other crimes, well, I don&#039;t know how much sympathy they can expect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What exactly is Cof$ using to blackmail people with?  Details of their sex life?  Unless you are Tom Cruise or John Travolta, who cares?  (And even those two, who cares?)<br />
On the other hand, if someone was confessing crimes during auditing, how sorry can one be for the person?  On the one hand, people say that those who were confessing in auditing to molesting children should have been turned in to the police.  And I agree with that.  But if someone was confessing to other crimes, well, I don&#8217;t know how much sympathy they can expect.</p>
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		By: beauty for ashes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[beauty for ashes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666910&quot;&gt;Ardent&lt;/a&gt;.

no it is Wim Wenders. sounds very close.  Fassbinder is an older german filmmaker~ i know i saw a film of his in a film class. it was color and it looked like it was from the seventies. 
anyway i hope you enjoy it~you might want to check your library if you can&#039;t find it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/11/03/dani-lemberger-who-led-a-breakaway-israel-mission-sues-scientology-for-libel-and-fraud/comment-page-1/#comment-666910">Ardent</a>.</p>
<p>no it is Wim Wenders. sounds very close.  Fassbinder is an older german filmmaker~ i know i saw a film of his in a film class. it was color and it looked like it was from the seventies.<br />
anyway i hope you enjoy it~you might want to check your library if you can&#8217;t find it.</p>
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