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	Comments on: Q&#038;A with Mike Rinder: Understanding the sudden changes at Scientology&#8217;s LA complex	</title>
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		By: Jonny Jacobsen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonny Jacobsen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2014 16:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just up at Infinite Complacency, &quot;Russia had it coming&quot;, an analysis of why Scientology&#039;s critics should accept the three European Court of Human Rights rulings backing the movement against Russia. bit.ly/1x2y0N4]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just up at Infinite Complacency, &#8220;Russia had it coming&#8221;, an analysis of why Scientology&#8217;s critics should accept the three European Court of Human Rights rulings backing the movement against Russia. bit.ly/1x2y0N4</p>
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		By: Nat-lificent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Nat-lificent		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Nat-lificent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nat-lificent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2014 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: InTheNameOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[InTheNameOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640065&quot;&gt;arcinva&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s hard to tell what Cruise would do. I personally think he&#039;ll stick around to the bitter end.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640065">arcinva</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s hard to tell what Cruise would do. I personally think he&#8217;ll stick around to the bitter end.</p>
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		By: arcinva		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[arcinva]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2014 00:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640820&quot;&gt;Semper Phi&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640820">Semper Phi</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. 🙂</p>
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		By: Semper Phi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Semper Phi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 16:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-639992&quot;&gt;arcinva&lt;/a&gt;.

Sorry about that! An OOT is an Outer Org Trainee, a staff member from one of the Class V or non-Flag SO orgs who is training at Flag to be a supervisor, auditor, ethics officer, etc. &quot;Bogged&quot; describes someone who is moving slowly and with difficulty through his/her training program. It&#039;s not a happy situation to be a bogged OOT at Flag, though fortunately, there is no RPF for Class V org staffers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-639992">arcinva</a>.</p>
<p>Sorry about that! An OOT is an Outer Org Trainee, a staff member from one of the Class V or non-Flag SO orgs who is training at Flag to be a supervisor, auditor, ethics officer, etc. &#8220;Bogged&#8221; describes someone who is moving slowly and with difficulty through his/her training program. It&#8217;s not a happy situation to be a bogged OOT at Flag, though fortunately, there is no RPF for Class V org staffers.</p>
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		By: Barbara Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 03:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640318&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

MK I know you mean well and I &#039;value&#039; your opinion so please forgive my reply. 
Oh well, that&#039;s good news.... in another &#039;Decade&#039; or so..... we can at least look forward to having narCON shut down. The Authorities are afraid of co$ and have become the number one Enabler, so in that case $camology will continue to destroy, destroy, destroy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640318">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>MK I know you mean well and I &#8216;value&#8217; your opinion so please forgive my reply.<br />
Oh well, that&#8217;s good news&#8230;. in another &#8216;Decade&#8217; or so&#8230;.. we can at least look forward to having narCON shut down. The Authorities are afraid of co$ and have become the number one Enabler, so in that case $camology will continue to destroy, destroy, destroy.</p>
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		By: Eclipse-girl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eclipse-girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640174&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

When I joined the Bunker, I went to Alibris and found a nice second hand copy in the US.  I think Mis Tia is borrowing that one, now.


I bought a new copy for myself.  Then a month later my brother asked ] for it for his birthday.  That was when I found out he read this blog on a daily basis.  I also sent him John Sweeney&#039;s book as just an extra.


I think it is an very well written bio.  As much as can&#039;t stand Ronnie Fatboy, i couldn&#039;t stop turning the pages.  I am grateful Mr Miller wrote this because I think the documentation of the history - the interviews with the remaining family - were so incredibly important to stop the damn lying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640174">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>When I joined the Bunker, I went to Alibris and found a nice second hand copy in the US.  I think Mis Tia is borrowing that one, now.</p>
<p>I bought a new copy for myself.  Then a month later my brother asked ] for it for his birthday.  That was when I found out he read this blog on a daily basis.  I also sent him John Sweeney&#8217;s book as just an extra.</p>
<p>I think it is an very well written bio.  As much as can&#8217;t stand Ronnie Fatboy, i couldn&#8217;t stop turning the pages.  I am grateful Mr Miller wrote this because I think the documentation of the history &#8211; the interviews with the remaining family &#8211; were so incredibly important to stop the damn lying.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2014 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640103&quot;&gt;Barbara Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not so much that the authorities are afraid of $cientology, but without direct proof and a shitload of witnesses willing to lie their asses off, safepointing, and a trucklo prossad of attorneys, proseppcuting CO$ becomes a budget buster for any prosecutor.

Add in the fact that sending in a spy to a supposed religious organization, and the political and legal gordion knot.  Eventually the civil trials and Co$&#039;s own Must Rachel directed defenses will lead to prosecution, but the cult&#039;s paranoia has served it well.

We know of the abuses.  Proving them in open court is something else.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/02/qa-with-mike-rinder-understanding-the-sudden-changes-at-scientologys-la-complex/comment-page-1/#comment-640103">Barbara Angel</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not so much that the authorities are afraid of $cientology, but without direct proof and a shitload of witnesses willing to lie their asses off, safepointing, and a trucklo prossad of attorneys, proseppcuting CO$ becomes a budget buster for any prosecutor.</p>
<p>Add in the fact that sending in a spy to a supposed religious organization, and the political and legal gordion knot.  Eventually the civil trials and Co$&#8217;s own Must Rachel directed defenses will lead to prosecution, but the cult&#8217;s paranoia has served it well.</p>
<p>We know of the abuses.  Proving them in open court is something else.</p>
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