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	Comments on: Scientology&#8217;s drug rehab network hit with lawsuit number 22 by attorney Ryan Hamilton	</title>
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		By: DMSTCC		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[My attempt at a transcription of the LAX encounter:

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  Works great doesn&#039;t it? It makes you feel good. You know you could...you can actually get your ethics in Marty. That would be [sane?]

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Stop committing suppressive acts, full time suppressive acts. full time. [inaudible]. Just end it. Go live a life. Why don&#039;t you get a life, man. Just get a life. You&#039;ve had zero effect, none. And nobody gives a fuck about you. That&#039;s the truth. 

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  Right. We are doing so well. So stinking well. You are standing afraid.

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Nobody has even noticed you&#039;re gone man.

&lt;B&gt;DB:&lt;/B&gt;  Nobody... [inaudible]

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  You&#039;re nothing. That&#039;s the point. You&#039;re nothing.

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  No comm cycle. Is that what you learned?

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Brilliant

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  No comm cycle

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Your TRs are brilliant. Why don&#039;t you just stop committing suppressive acts and live a real life. We need a...What&#039;s he doing in LA anyway? What are you doing in LA? Why are you here? 

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  What a pathetic individual. All you are is your camera.

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Why don&#039;t you just end it and start living a decent life and do something to help mankind. Cause you guys do nothing to help mankind. Between you [and] Mike it&#039;s pathetic. You guys are embarrassing and pathetic. Pathetic. It&#039;s disgusting and it&#039;s all over your face and you look terrible.

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  Brilliant

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  [inaudible]...longer before a fight (not sure if this was JL)

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  Wow. He&#039;s such a loser. It&#039;s embarrassing. Why don&#039;t you do something with your life. You&#039;re an embarrassment. An embarrassment to the fact that you were ever, ever connected to us. You have zero facts.

&lt;B&gt;Marty:&lt;/B&gt;  Could you people move on please?

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  [mild laughter]

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  That would be the [word that ?][inaudible]

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  That...[inaudible]

&lt;B&gt;MY:&lt;/B&gt;  We made a lot of progress 

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  It&#039;s unbelievable. ...[inaudible]... Wow. Embarrassing, humiliating, disgusting. An absolute embarrassment that you were ever connected. You have no facts. Nobody cares. Nobody&#039;s interested. You&#039;ve done nothing. You have no... I mean some movement, it&#039;s a God damned joke. No one gives a crap. OK?

&lt;B&gt;Marty:&lt;/B&gt;  Can you move on please.

&lt;B&gt;JL:&lt;/B&gt;  We&#039;ve moved on. We have moved on and the church has been better...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My attempt at a transcription of the LAX encounter:</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  Works great doesn&#8217;t it? It makes you feel good. You know you could&#8230;you can actually get your ethics in Marty. That would be [sane?]</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Stop committing suppressive acts, full time suppressive acts. full time. [inaudible]. Just end it. Go live a life. Why don&#8217;t you get a life, man. Just get a life. You&#8217;ve had zero effect, none. And nobody gives a fuck about you. That&#8217;s the truth. </p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  Right. We are doing so well. So stinking well. You are standing afraid.</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Nobody has even noticed you&#8217;re gone man.</p>
<p><b>DB:</b>  Nobody&#8230; [inaudible]</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  You&#8217;re nothing. That&#8217;s the point. You&#8217;re nothing.</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  No comm cycle. Is that what you learned?</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Brilliant</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  No comm cycle</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Your TRs are brilliant. Why don&#8217;t you just stop committing suppressive acts and live a real life. We need a&#8230;What&#8217;s he doing in LA anyway? What are you doing in LA? Why are you here? </p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  What a pathetic individual. All you are is your camera.</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Why don&#8217;t you just end it and start living a decent life and do something to help mankind. Cause you guys do nothing to help mankind. Between you [and] Mike it&#8217;s pathetic. You guys are embarrassing and pathetic. Pathetic. It&#8217;s disgusting and it&#8217;s all over your face and you look terrible.</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  Brilliant</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  [inaudible]&#8230;longer before a fight (not sure if this was JL)</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  Wow. He&#8217;s such a loser. It&#8217;s embarrassing. Why don&#8217;t you do something with your life. You&#8217;re an embarrassment. An embarrassment to the fact that you were ever, ever connected to us. You have zero facts.</p>
<p><b>Marty:</b>  Could you people move on please?</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  [mild laughter]</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  That would be the [word that ?][inaudible]</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  That&#8230;[inaudible]</p>
<p><b>MY:</b>  We made a lot of progress </p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  It&#8217;s unbelievable. &#8230;[inaudible]&#8230; Wow. Embarrassing, humiliating, disgusting. An absolute embarrassment that you were ever connected. You have no facts. Nobody cares. Nobody&#8217;s interested. You&#8217;ve done nothing. You have no&#8230; I mean some movement, it&#8217;s a God damned joke. No one gives a crap. OK?</p>
<p><b>Marty:</b>  Can you move on please.</p>
<p><b>JL:</b>  We&#8217;ve moved on. We have moved on and the church has been better&#8230;</p>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2014 02:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637796&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

Bruce &#038; Patti, Captain ~  http://youtu.be/WCVJny3Va4I]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637796">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>Bruce &amp; Patti, Captain ~  <a href="http://youtu.be/WCVJny3Va4I" rel="nofollow ugc">http://youtu.be/WCVJny3Va4I</a></p>
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		By: Verve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 23:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637949&quot;&gt;Stacy&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks.  I saw your other post about the FTC after I posted mine.  D&#039;oh!  :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637949">Stacy</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.  I saw your other post about the FTC after I posted mine.  D&#8217;oh!  😀</p>
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		By: Aslansown		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 22:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638593&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

I would just love to see one of those things hovering over DM&#039;s head (just out of reach) during one of his oudoor extravaganzas!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638593">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>I would just love to see one of those things hovering over DM&#8217;s head (just out of reach) during one of his oudoor extravaganzas!</p>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637808&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello again Bob.  I gotta type quick cuz I&#039;m do in to work soon.  I wanted to say thanks for answering my question, you didn&#039;t have to &#038; I realize that it was a bit prying.  But I believe when you first started posting here you were wanting to hang on to some of the good stuff that came out of doing scientology (like what the &#039;other Bob&#039;, the ethics officer, does).  These are your personal revelations; they are hard to express as well as very private, I know.   
So to hear you say, &quot;... it&#039;s necessary to throw it ALL out. That&#039;s the quickest way to decompress.&quot; was a big reveal to me about you --- the person who has been there &#038; done that and has come out of it with your sanity, your identity, still intact.  I think this is a huge admission &#038; means you are doing well &#038; moving in a healing direction away from LRH&#039;s claptrap.  So yeah, I agree, let it all go - to hell with Hubbard&#039;s way of doing things!  To hell with his mindset!  Jeers to him &#038; cheers to you.  I also know that good friends and beautiful family is involved still and so we must always remember to keep each other, and those we love, safe. 
I am grateful for your posts over the last 2 years.  Do take care.
Q]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637808">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Hello again Bob.  I gotta type quick cuz I&#8217;m do in to work soon.  I wanted to say thanks for answering my question, you didn&#8217;t have to &amp; I realize that it was a bit prying.  But I believe when you first started posting here you were wanting to hang on to some of the good stuff that came out of doing scientology (like what the &#8216;other Bob&#8217;, the ethics officer, does).  These are your personal revelations; they are hard to express as well as very private, I know.<br />
So to hear you say, &#8220;&#8230; it&#8217;s necessary to throw it ALL out. That&#8217;s the quickest way to decompress.&#8221; was a big reveal to me about you &#8212; the person who has been there &amp; done that and has come out of it with your sanity, your identity, still intact.  I think this is a huge admission &amp; means you are doing well &amp; moving in a healing direction away from LRH&#8217;s claptrap.  So yeah, I agree, let it all go &#8211; to hell with Hubbard&#8217;s way of doing things!  To hell with his mindset!  Jeers to him &amp; cheers to you.  I also know that good friends and beautiful family is involved still and so we must always remember to keep each other, and those we love, safe.<br />
I am grateful for your posts over the last 2 years.  Do take care.<br />
Q</p>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638616&quot;&gt;Artoo45&lt;/a&gt;.

Googled and as far as I can determine, she has not gone to Target 2 yet.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638616">Artoo45</a>.</p>
<p>Googled and as far as I can determine, she has not gone to Target 2 yet.</p>
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		By: Artoo45		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637757&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

Maybe it will. Ava&#039;s not dead, is she?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637757">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>Maybe it will. Ava&#8217;s not dead, is she?</p>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637765&quot;&gt;Aslansown&lt;/a&gt;.

I think there was some info about who the owner of the drone might be on the ESMB thread though I don&#039;t remember the post or who made it.  Happy hunting, and I think Smurf (Garry Scarff?) would know about it. 

http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?35143-Scientology-L-A-Re-Re-Reopening-Media]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637765">Aslansown</a>.</p>
<p>I think there was some info about who the owner of the drone might be on the ESMB thread though I don&#8217;t remember the post or who made it.  Happy hunting, and I think Smurf (Garry Scarff?) would know about it. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?35143-Scientology-L-A-Re-Re-Reopening-Media" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?35143-Scientology-L-A-Re-Re-Reopening-Media</a></p>
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		By: aegerprimo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aegerprimo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 20:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637819&quot;&gt;Jens TINGLEFF&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow! That is wonderful!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-637819">Jens TINGLEFF</a>.</p>
<p>Wow! That is wonderful!</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2014 17:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638303&quot;&gt;Cosmo Pidgeon&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. I am enjoying learning things again and hand picking kernels of truth from Hubbs stuff. Funny I always have good results with contact assists.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/10/01/scientologys-drug-rehab-network-hit-with-lawsuit-number-22-by-attorney-ryan-hamilton/comment-page-1/#comment-638303">Cosmo Pidgeon</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. I am enjoying learning things again and hand picking kernels of truth from Hubbs stuff. Funny I always have good results with contact assists.</p>
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