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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-648821&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

Awww Tory what a sight for sore eyes ( Gawwwd do people say that anymore..hahahaha)


Thank you sweetie.. Someone mentioned the Garlic with oil today..I am going out of town. When my antibiotics run out and it still bugs me I&#039;ll know.  Yep THE TICKIN AND THE TOCKIN ARE GETTING LOUDER, EH?  Love baby xo


( After I wrote that I had to go on another series of antibiotics..)  yes, like you ..on and off for a year!  Good Lord.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-648821">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>Awww Tory what a sight for sore eyes ( Gawwwd do people say that anymore..hahahaha)</p>
<p>Thank you sweetie.. Someone mentioned the Garlic with oil today..I am going out of town. When my antibiotics run out and it still bugs me I&#8217;ll know.  Yep THE TICKIN AND THE TOCKIN ARE GETTING LOUDER, EH?  Love baby xo</p>
<p>( After I wrote that I had to go on another series of antibiotics..)  yes, like you ..on and off for a year!  Good Lord.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2014 21:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-632595&quot;&gt;Baby&lt;/a&gt;.

Soooooooooooo happy to hear you are BACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!! Way to go, Baby :) We all love you, too!! &#060;3 I&#039;ve been fighting ear infections for a year now, off and on. 
I found a great natural remedy in a Health food store. It&#039;s basically oil and garlic, just IF you run out of the antibiotics and still need *something*. It helps. :) So happy you all are here and keeping up the fight! OSA **hates** that...I promise you. (Happy Wednesday before Thursday at 2:00, OSA!) LOLOLOL. Ahhhhh....the futile fight they have. Tick Tock....Tick Tock....U know the rest :) Tory/Magoo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-1/#comment-632595">Baby</a>.</p>
<p>Soooooooooooo happy to hear you are BACCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!! Way to go, Baby 🙂 We all love you, too!! &lt;3 I&#039;ve been fighting ear infections for a year now, off and on.<br />
I found a great natural remedy in a Health food store. It&#039;s basically oil and garlic, just IF you run out of the antibiotics and still need *something*. It helps. 🙂 So happy you all are here and keeping up the fight! OSA **hates** that&#8230;I promise you. (Happy Wednesday before Thursday at 2:00, OSA!) LOLOLOL. Ahhhhh&#8230;.the futile fight they have. Tick Tock&#8230;.Tick Tock&#8230;.U know the rest 🙂 Tory/Magoo</p>
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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633872&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

Farewell Jim. To be rid of your insanity is a blessing. Forever. I&#039;m so happy you are done with it. Farewell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633872">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>Farewell Jim. To be rid of your insanity is a blessing. Forever. I&#8217;m so happy you are done with it. Farewell.</p>
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		By: Jimmy3		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 15:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633778&quot;&gt;MaxSpaceman&lt;/a&gt;.

You sound truly insane saying I &quot;brought Max back out.&quot;  Not only by referring to yourself in the third person, but by insisting that I somehow forced you to post under that handle.  By your logic, which follows that the mere mention of &quot;MaxSpaceman&quot; is a mention of your real name, YOU DID NOT HAVE TO KEEP POSTING AS MAXSPACEMAN.  But you did, repeatedly, you hypocrite.  To accuse me of any responsibility for your continuation of posting as Max is, again, simply insane.  You could have chosen from any number of new names to continue posting as. We both know you&#039;ve always managed to find new names and personas to post as.  So that bullshit line isn&#039;t going to work on me or anyone else.

And that&#039;s just the thing of it, MaxSockmen.  You&#039;ve always created new sock personas for whatever reasons.  Because you&#039;re bored, because you&#039;ve had a mood swing, because you love the attention and welcomes after posting a phony introduction, because you&#039;re a habitual liar and just like to fuck with the board.  Who knows why, really.  But anonymity?  How does pretending to be your brother-in-law and posting simultaneously, responding to yourself and up voting yourself help to keep you anonymous?  That&#039;s a crock of shit.  And we both know you&#039;re running current socks here that I haven&#039;t spotted, right?  Just how many socks do you juggle at a time, MaxSockmen?

I&#039;m not saying you are Bill Yaude, but you&#039;re exactly the type of person that Tory is talking about when she speaks of Yaude.  I hope you&#039;re very proud of that.  But I&#039;ll keep my word.  Pick a new name, or, more likely a dozen new names, and continue playing your bullshit games.  I&#039;m done with it.   Farewell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633778">MaxSpaceman</a>.</p>
<p>You sound truly insane saying I &#8220;brought Max back out.&#8221;  Not only by referring to yourself in the third person, but by insisting that I somehow forced you to post under that handle.  By your logic, which follows that the mere mention of &#8220;MaxSpaceman&#8221; is a mention of your real name, YOU DID NOT HAVE TO KEEP POSTING AS MAXSPACEMAN.  But you did, repeatedly, you hypocrite.  To accuse me of any responsibility for your continuation of posting as Max is, again, simply insane.  You could have chosen from any number of new names to continue posting as. We both know you&#8217;ve always managed to find new names and personas to post as.  So that bullshit line isn&#8217;t going to work on me or anyone else.</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s just the thing of it, MaxSockmen.  You&#8217;ve always created new sock personas for whatever reasons.  Because you&#8217;re bored, because you&#8217;ve had a mood swing, because you love the attention and welcomes after posting a phony introduction, because you&#8217;re a habitual liar and just like to fuck with the board.  Who knows why, really.  But anonymity?  How does pretending to be your brother-in-law and posting simultaneously, responding to yourself and up voting yourself help to keep you anonymous?  That&#8217;s a crock of shit.  And we both know you&#8217;re running current socks here that I haven&#8217;t spotted, right?  Just how many socks do you juggle at a time, MaxSockmen?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying you are Bill Yaude, but you&#8217;re exactly the type of person that Tory is talking about when she speaks of Yaude.  I hope you&#8217;re very proud of that.  But I&#8217;ll keep my word.  Pick a new name, or, more likely a dozen new names, and continue playing your bullshit games.  I&#8217;m done with it.   Farewell.</p>
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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 12:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633305&quot;&gt;Jimmy3&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re so blase about it; it would be better if you were on the list too; then you&#039;d get it, as the other 299 on the list get it. No, it&#039;s not hypocritical. I had immediately retired my handles as soon as the list was announced, as I intend to remain anonymous. I hadn&#039;t posted with Max at all. You brought Max back by outting me to Scientology. I had ended Max posts. Now what I do with my handles is my business, Jim, and you&#039;ve agreed to butt out. You wrote: &quot; Create as many puppets and lie as often as you&#039;d like, I don&#039;t care anymore.  Good luck man.&quot; 



Keep your word Jim. And you keep on with your insults and chastisements to commentors, I don&#039;t care anymore- farewell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633305">Jimmy3</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re so blase about it; it would be better if you were on the list too; then you&#8217;d get it, as the other 299 on the list get it. No, it&#8217;s not hypocritical. I had immediately retired my handles as soon as the list was announced, as I intend to remain anonymous. I hadn&#8217;t posted with Max at all. You brought Max back by outting me to Scientology. I had ended Max posts. Now what I do with my handles is my business, Jim, and you&#8217;ve agreed to butt out. You wrote: &#8221; Create as many puppets and lie as often as you&#8217;d like, I don&#8217;t care anymore.  Good luck man.&#8221; </p>
<p>Keep your word Jim. And you keep on with your insults and chastisements to commentors, I don&#8217;t care anymore- farewell.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 11:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A big lesson for history, is people defecting, like John Brousseau, which Scientology boldly and premptively claim that John stole computer files from Scientology and gave them to Marty, that Scientology claim is unproven and one of the statements Scientology claims, but has no final decision by any court that John &quot;stole&quot; files.


Scientology would have to prove that.


Maybe, a person has to be tested in court, be proven to have &quot;stolen&quot; files, for then Scientology to THEN claim that that person &quot;stole&quot; the files.


This is minor, and an interpretive point.


I think thus, were I John, or were I a future Tom Rummelhart type of person, the thing to do is bring those files to the FBI for the FBI to interpret those files and see if the person was justified in &quot;stealing&quot; them for self protection like in the case of Gerry Armstrong who didn&#039;t steal files, he just ensured that the biographer Scientology had hired was the one who had the &quot;files&quot; just so the files were in the public to back up anything that Gerry wished to proved in Gerry&#039;s claims about Scientology&#039;s lies about L. Ron Hubbard&#039;s life history.


Same for Scientology.


I think this point of the moment WHEN a Scientology inside staffer plans to defect, which files to take and to immediately give those files to the appropriate state or federal prosecutors, legally, so that successful prosecution can be done.


Or, do like Michael Misner, the old Guardian&#039;s Office staffer who defected to the FBI.


To me, in history, going forward, laying out in print or video, a DIY video or &quot;How to Defect from Scientology with Documents Legally for Dummies&quot; book is needed.


So that this information of how to defect legally, and take only the files or evidence and give that evidence quickly to prosecutors for legal protection of the defecting person.


I also think that it would be useful for that person defecting to have a bit of the martyr in them, and them be willing to do time in prison, for any personal law violations they are involved with themselves, because really the outside crime punishment is far less bad than Scientology&#039;s in house variable time punishment/redemption system of the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force system for violating Sea Org members).


This seems like a good chapter or booklet and video to fully research legally, and make this info clear and public to Scientology Sea Org staff, about this option of how to do successfully legally like Gerry and Michael Misner did in Sea Org history, which was ensure the evidence was made public to prove Scientology&#039;s lies and wrongs.


Someone with the smarts and time ought to write up the way to do it, so future defecting Scientologists know, from learning this even as kids, before they even join Scientology or join the Sea Org, but they know in the back of their minds that there are legal ways to whistleblow against any ongoing law violations of Scientology&#039;s or the hugely discreditable offensive actions of Scientology.


Maybe even hiring a former Scientology lawyer to help draw up that info in a &quot;TIPs for Defecting Scientologists for Dummies&quot; book.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A big lesson for history, is people defecting, like John Brousseau, which Scientology boldly and premptively claim that John stole computer files from Scientology and gave them to Marty, that Scientology claim is unproven and one of the statements Scientology claims, but has no final decision by any court that John &#8220;stole&#8221; files.</p>
<p>Scientology would have to prove that.</p>
<p>Maybe, a person has to be tested in court, be proven to have &#8220;stolen&#8221; files, for then Scientology to THEN claim that that person &#8220;stole&#8221; the files.</p>
<p>This is minor, and an interpretive point.</p>
<p>I think thus, were I John, or were I a future Tom Rummelhart type of person, the thing to do is bring those files to the FBI for the FBI to interpret those files and see if the person was justified in &#8220;stealing&#8221; them for self protection like in the case of Gerry Armstrong who didn&#8217;t steal files, he just ensured that the biographer Scientology had hired was the one who had the &#8220;files&#8221; just so the files were in the public to back up anything that Gerry wished to proved in Gerry&#8217;s claims about Scientology&#8217;s lies about L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s life history.</p>
<p>Same for Scientology.</p>
<p>I think this point of the moment WHEN a Scientology inside staffer plans to defect, which files to take and to immediately give those files to the appropriate state or federal prosecutors, legally, so that successful prosecution can be done.</p>
<p>Or, do like Michael Misner, the old Guardian&#8217;s Office staffer who defected to the FBI.</p>
<p>To me, in history, going forward, laying out in print or video, a DIY video or &#8220;How to Defect from Scientology with Documents Legally for Dummies&#8221; book is needed.</p>
<p>So that this information of how to defect legally, and take only the files or evidence and give that evidence quickly to prosecutors for legal protection of the defecting person.</p>
<p>I also think that it would be useful for that person defecting to have a bit of the martyr in them, and them be willing to do time in prison, for any personal law violations they are involved with themselves, because really the outside crime punishment is far less bad than Scientology&#8217;s in house variable time punishment/redemption system of the RPF (Rehabilitation Project Force system for violating Sea Org members).</p>
<p>This seems like a good chapter or booklet and video to fully research legally, and make this info clear and public to Scientology Sea Org staff, about this option of how to do successfully legally like Gerry and Michael Misner did in Sea Org history, which was ensure the evidence was made public to prove Scientology&#8217;s lies and wrongs.</p>
<p>Someone with the smarts and time ought to write up the way to do it, so future defecting Scientologists know, from learning this even as kids, before they even join Scientology or join the Sea Org, but they know in the back of their minds that there are legal ways to whistleblow against any ongoing law violations of Scientology&#8217;s or the hugely discreditable offensive actions of Scientology.</p>
<p>Maybe even hiring a former Scientology lawyer to help draw up that info in a &#8220;TIPs for Defecting Scientologists for Dummies&#8221; book.</p>
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		By: Barbara Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633659&quot;&gt;praline&lt;/a&gt;.

Agree completely. Sad part is we have had a couple of recent multiple arrests of Muslims planning terror attacks, then they held a protest claiming racism. So what are our red neck Aussies doing now? Well they are attacking Muslim women in the street, swearing at them, pulling of a lady&#039;s hijab etc and why? Because women are easy targets of all sorts of violence, violence is not just physical its often verbal. Women do need to be able to protect themselves and Monique must have been terrified.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633659">praline</a>.</p>
<p>Agree completely. Sad part is we have had a couple of recent multiple arrests of Muslims planning terror attacks, then they held a protest claiming racism. So what are our red neck Aussies doing now? Well they are attacking Muslim women in the street, swearing at them, pulling of a lady&#8217;s hijab etc and why? Because women are easy targets of all sorts of violence, violence is not just physical its often verbal. Women do need to be able to protect themselves and Monique must have been terrified.</p>
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		By: Barbara Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633661&quot;&gt;praline&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep, ditto co$ thrives on bullying and there is no depth to which they will not sink.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-633661">praline</a>.</p>
<p>Yep, ditto co$ thrives on bullying and there is no depth to which they will not sink.</p>
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		By: praline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[praline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After my &quot;good and mad&quot; post about shooting crazies, Texas lawyer gently reminding me shooting just because they are an asshole isn&#039;t justified. 

With that, turning this article and comments into something more positive or helpful:
What should a person (especially single ladies) do when they are confronted with this crap? How to they protect themselves? 

We all know the Rathburns are great and are very outgoing and open about their ordeal. At the same time there are people out there who do not have the ability to be outspoken critics. 

The police and restraining orders can only get you so far. Lawsuits are all well and good but most of the folks that blow don&#039;t have a lot of funds and what little they have needs to go to living expenses. 

What steps or suggestions would you give someone who is currently being harassed or stalked by this cult?

I don&#039;t mean to dwell on the issue, I just feel so bad for someone that is hiding from their front door in order to stay safe. =(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After my &#8220;good and mad&#8221; post about shooting crazies, Texas lawyer gently reminding me shooting just because they are an asshole isn&#8217;t justified. </p>
<p>With that, turning this article and comments into something more positive or helpful:<br />
What should a person (especially single ladies) do when they are confronted with this crap? How to they protect themselves? </p>
<p>We all know the Rathburns are great and are very outgoing and open about their ordeal. At the same time there are people out there who do not have the ability to be outspoken critics. </p>
<p>The police and restraining orders can only get you so far. Lawsuits are all well and good but most of the folks that blow don&#8217;t have a lot of funds and what little they have needs to go to living expenses. </p>
<p>What steps or suggestions would you give someone who is currently being harassed or stalked by this cult?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to dwell on the issue, I just feel so bad for someone that is hiding from their front door in order to stay safe. =(</p>
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		By: praline		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[praline]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Sep 2014 06:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-632949&quot;&gt;Barbara Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

I just feel so bad for all those ladies out there who aren&#039;t brave or have the connections the Rathburns do. I am sure they are bullying and harassing many people. I wish there was a way to help them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/24/rathbun-v-scientology-another-appeals-court-hearing-this-time-with-everything-on-the-line/comment-page-2/#comment-632949">Barbara Angel</a>.</p>
<p>I just feel so bad for all those ladies out there who aren&#8217;t brave or have the connections the Rathburns do. I am sure they are bullying and harassing many people. I wish there was a way to help them.</p>
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