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		By: April		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[April]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632564&quot;&gt;Cosmo Pidgeon&lt;/a&gt;.

The watch wasn&#039;t too bad of an example. I understood what you meant. In general, the more something costs or the harder it is to obtain, the more its perceived value.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632564">Cosmo Pidgeon</a>.</p>
<p>The watch wasn&#8217;t too bad of an example. I understood what you meant. In general, the more something costs or the harder it is to obtain, the more its perceived value.</p>
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		By: shasha40		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shasha40]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 12:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-630973&quot;&gt;Truthiwant&lt;/a&gt;.

You just took the creep factor higherwith that point  , Truth ! * cue , Twilight Zone music * ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-630973">Truthiwant</a>.</p>
<p>You just took the creep factor higherwith that point  , Truth ! * cue , Twilight Zone music * </p>
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		By: Cosmo Pidgeon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cosmo Pidgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632222&quot;&gt;April&lt;/a&gt;.

OK a watch was the first and obviously  bad, example I thought of and wasn&#039;t meant to be an exactly translatable argument, sorry.  The Flag Land Base is not a guy on a corner with a overcoat selling watches. It;s kind of a high end jewelry store selling fakes....... Anyway that&#039;s why sometimes exes are thought of by never ins as fools. Maybe so there.... How could any rational person fall into this?.......That is why this particular cult is so insidious. It on the surface is nothing more that logic......until the crazy starts.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632222">April</a>.</p>
<p>OK a watch was the first and obviously  bad, example I thought of and wasn&#8217;t meant to be an exactly translatable argument, sorry.  The Flag Land Base is not a guy on a corner with a overcoat selling watches. It;s kind of a high end jewelry store selling fakes&#8230;&#8230;. Anyway that&#8217;s why sometimes exes are thought of by never ins as fools. Maybe so there&#8230;. How could any rational person fall into this?&#8230;&#8230;.That is why this particular cult is so insidious. It on the surface is nothing more that logic&#8230;&#8230;until the crazy starts.</p>
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		By: Stacy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Stacy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 22:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631763&quot;&gt;CatCollar&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks. I&#039;ve resorted to flea collars too, but just the run of the mill ones. I&#039;ll look for this brand. 

Apologies to the Bunkerites for getting so off-topic. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631763">CatCollar</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks. I&#8217;ve resorted to flea collars too, but just the run of the mill ones. I&#8217;ll look for this brand. </p>
<p>Apologies to the Bunkerites for getting so off-topic. </p>
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		By: Todd Tomorrow		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Todd Tomorrow]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631235&quot;&gt;HillieOnTheBeach&lt;/a&gt;.

r u serious?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631235">HillieOnTheBeach</a>.</p>
<p>r u serious?</p>
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		By: April		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[April]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 19:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632152&quot;&gt;Cosmo Pidgeon&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Cosmo for taking the time to explain. It makes a lot of sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-632152">Cosmo Pidgeon</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Cosmo for taking the time to explain. It makes a lot of sense.</p>
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		By: Cosmo Pidgeon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cosmo Pidgeon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 17:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631717&quot;&gt;April&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s a great question April and I&#039;ll try to answer. First off it was relatively inexpensive in the 70&#039;s...$25.00 for the HAS or Communication course. and I believe $180.00 for the HQS or Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course and I think $500.00 for the course to learn to be a Dianetic Auditor. But believe me I thought the $500.00 out of my range. No one is recruited by being told come on in this is going to cost you $500,000.00. It&#039;s all gradual. Secondly yes what an inefficient way to save the planet. First off Scientologists believe that the SP&#039;s are on a day and night mission to destroy them. Think this....With all the things that the FBI, the CIA, and Interpol have going on. Their top mission is to destroy Scientology because we will break the grip of the Psychiatrists, Pharmaceutical Companies and a small cabal of evil politicians and bankers are using to control you and me. It takes money to survive against such powerful enemies. and you April can help save us all..Conspiracy Theories.......But it starts with a communication course which in and of itself quite interesting and beneficial to many as long as you don.t know what it is leading to. You see this is already becoming a long answer and I could make a short story trying to take you inside Scientology thinking... but   .In short LRH figured a way out of a maze that was created to trap us....Yeah I know....most people don&#039;t fall for this.  But myself I was already on a personal quest to understand the universe and life through study of alternate religions and LSD inspired astral travel.....Back to your question of money and I answer this now as an ex.... If I had a watch that said Rolex on it and I sold it to you for $10.00 you would think it was either fake or stolen. If somehow you thought it might be real you would take to a jeweler to see if it was. If I sold you that watch for $10,000.00. You would show all your friends your new Rolex and would resist any idea that it might be fake. {it is}. 

There is also this. With each level you gain new abilities that will help you make more money and up to the next. Also some weird idea that if enough OT&#039;s are in an area that area gets better. It doesn&#039;t. 

The people at the church you went to certainly don.t have much money so it must be going for a good cause..I mean they believe it.    

There is also the idea of exchange. If Scientology is given to you it won&#039;t work correctly....Remember the Rolex watch.

Did all that rambling help?     You were a smart girl to stay away.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631717">April</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a great question April and I&#8217;ll try to answer. First off it was relatively inexpensive in the 70&#8217;s&#8230;$25.00 for the HAS or Communication course. and I believe $180.00 for the HQS or Hubbard Qualified Scientologist Course and I think $500.00 for the course to learn to be a Dianetic Auditor. But believe me I thought the $500.00 out of my range. No one is recruited by being told come on in this is going to cost you $500,000.00. It&#8217;s all gradual. Secondly yes what an inefficient way to save the planet. First off Scientologists believe that the SP&#8217;s are on a day and night mission to destroy them. Think this&#8230;.With all the things that the FBI, the CIA, and Interpol have going on. Their top mission is to destroy Scientology because we will break the grip of the Psychiatrists, Pharmaceutical Companies and a small cabal of evil politicians and bankers are using to control you and me. It takes money to survive against such powerful enemies. and you April can help save us all..Conspiracy Theories&#8230;&#8230;.But it starts with a communication course which in and of itself quite interesting and beneficial to many as long as you don.t know what it is leading to. You see this is already becoming a long answer and I could make a short story trying to take you inside Scientology thinking&#8230; but   .In short LRH figured a way out of a maze that was created to trap us&#8230;.Yeah I know&#8230;.most people don&#8217;t fall for this.  But myself I was already on a personal quest to understand the universe and life through study of alternate religions and LSD inspired astral travel&#8230;..Back to your question of money and I answer this now as an ex&#8230;. If I had a watch that said Rolex on it and I sold it to you for $10.00 you would think it was either fake or stolen. If somehow you thought it might be real you would take to a jeweler to see if it was. If I sold you that watch for $10,000.00. You would show all your friends your new Rolex and would resist any idea that it might be fake. {it is}. </p>
<p>There is also this. With each level you gain new abilities that will help you make more money and up to the next. Also some weird idea that if enough OT&#8217;s are in an area that area gets better. It doesn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>The people at the church you went to certainly don.t have much money so it must be going for a good cause..I mean they believe it.    </p>
<p>There is also the idea of exchange. If Scientology is given to you it won&#8217;t work correctly&#8230;.Remember the Rolex watch.</p>
<p>Did all that rambling help?     You were a smart girl to stay away.</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631147&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Pretty sure I read about it in Marc&#039;s book Blown For Good.]]></description>
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<p>Pretty sure I read about it in Marc&#8217;s book Blown For Good.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 04:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631542&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

He likes to strike out.]]></description>
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<p>He likes to strike out.</p>
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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Sep 2014 03:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/23/in-court-today-battle-over-government-report-on-wrongdoing-at-scientology-rehab-facility/comment-page-1/#comment-631823&quot;&gt;arcinva&lt;/a&gt;.

OH YEAH.. BUNKER STRONG...]]></description>
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<p>OH YEAH.. BUNKER STRONG&#8230;</p>
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