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		By: Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-634777&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

Again, Chuck, thanks for your long and thoughtful answer.


I fell asleep exhausted early last night but realized that I had nothing to do today that is so important that it must be done. So I am answer older emails.


I don&#039;t get too upset about Comm Lags anymore but I still do like to complete cycles of communication. Old habits die hard.


Many, many years ago I saw Captain Bill at a beautiful hotel, the King Edward. I was 18. At that point in my life it was hard enough to get a girl to talk to me let alone to go out with me on Saturday night or kiss me.


The crazy Captain spoke to a thousand of us. When the ball room was cleared into the hall there were tables of registrars signing up suckers for their billion year contracts. I watched as a physically beautiful blonde woman, perhaps a year or two older than I, signed up. I thought, &quot;What problems could she possibly have? How could she be fast talked by a loon in a sailor&#039;s suit&quot;. Spending a bit of time with that woman who I had not seen before or since, let&#039;s say, would have cleared up a lot of my acne.


Mike Spurgeon is not a loon in the way Capt. Bill was, except discounting his obvious Scientology involvement. I hope there is nobody there to sign up. I hope he plays to an almost empty hall. I think this is entirely possible.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-634777">chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03</a>.</p>
<p>Again, Chuck, thanks for your long and thoughtful answer.</p>
<p>I fell asleep exhausted early last night but realized that I had nothing to do today that is so important that it must be done. So I am answer older emails.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get too upset about Comm Lags anymore but I still do like to complete cycles of communication. Old habits die hard.</p>
<p>Many, many years ago I saw Captain Bill at a beautiful hotel, the King Edward. I was 18. At that point in my life it was hard enough to get a girl to talk to me let alone to go out with me on Saturday night or kiss me.</p>
<p>The crazy Captain spoke to a thousand of us. When the ball room was cleared into the hall there were tables of registrars signing up suckers for their billion year contracts. I watched as a physically beautiful blonde woman, perhaps a year or two older than I, signed up. I thought, &#8220;What problems could she possibly have? How could she be fast talked by a loon in a sailor&#8217;s suit&#8221;. Spending a bit of time with that woman who I had not seen before or since, let&#8217;s say, would have cleared up a lot of my acne.</p>
<p>Mike Spurgeon is not a loon in the way Capt. Bill was, except discounting his obvious Scientology involvement. I hope there is nobody there to sign up. I hope he plays to an almost empty hall. I think this is entirely possible.</p>
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		By: chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-634762&quot;&gt;Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack&lt;/a&gt;.

Re answering delay, I take Tony&#039;s blog as the landing location for the many comments people leave which will be important for future researchers to read, so I never worry about being a day or two late when I comment.   


I comment for history leaving, and hope others would take Tony&#039;s blog as a landing place for their historical research material that then later reporters, etc, can see what was commented and when history and profiles of people were done, incidents told, etc.


It&#039;s history, it&#039;s raw history details.


On their current plans, there is also their own lip service, they down deep know that many of Hubbard&#039;s goals were even stale in Hubbard&#039;s days, and repeating those goals today by &quot;top&quot; leaders is an art they wish to come across as NOT stale old dead Hubbard goals.


What carries through for them, is what Hubbard just piggybacks on in society and in human history, which is all humanity&#039;s long term big questions about the universe type of goals.


Hubbard piggybacks on the big long ago goals of bringing mankind up from their spiritual decline individually as the decayed souls that everyone supposedly is inside their degraded condition past lives unhandled trauma and underneath all of their loads of body thetans&#039; implanted false memories and degradation.


Hubbard&#039;s whole fictional in fact, but they take it as real, just piggy backs on older spiritual groups&#039; narratives about the soul having fallen from prior supersoul powered greatness, which Hubbard&#039;s &quot;Bridge to Total Freedom&quot; supposedly with the crank Hubbard therapy and exorcism is supposed to rehabilitate and rejuvenate.


So, not just what Hubbard said, but what has been in the old spiritual enlightenment and soul regaining the soul&#039;s ESP soul astronaut powers narrative, that other past human spiritual improvement groups claimed to also be on the prowl to obtain also, Scientology sits on that human soul baiting also!


Mike&#039;s even laying out the &quot;current plans&quot; to bilk money for expanding Scientology, lays on top of the older soul baiting of selling spiritual superpowers back to people that other spiritual groups tendered and obtained followings even already in history.


We&#039;ll find out what Canada Cont is doing, the defectors will always be coming once they wise up!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-634762">Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack</a>.</p>
<p>Re answering delay, I take Tony&#8217;s blog as the landing location for the many comments people leave which will be important for future researchers to read, so I never worry about being a day or two late when I comment.   </p>
<p>I comment for history leaving, and hope others would take Tony&#8217;s blog as a landing place for their historical research material that then later reporters, etc, can see what was commented and when history and profiles of people were done, incidents told, etc.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s history, it&#8217;s raw history details.</p>
<p>On their current plans, there is also their own lip service, they down deep know that many of Hubbard&#8217;s goals were even stale in Hubbard&#8217;s days, and repeating those goals today by &#8220;top&#8221; leaders is an art they wish to come across as NOT stale old dead Hubbard goals.</p>
<p>What carries through for them, is what Hubbard just piggybacks on in society and in human history, which is all humanity&#8217;s long term big questions about the universe type of goals.</p>
<p>Hubbard piggybacks on the big long ago goals of bringing mankind up from their spiritual decline individually as the decayed souls that everyone supposedly is inside their degraded condition past lives unhandled trauma and underneath all of their loads of body thetans&#8217; implanted false memories and degradation.</p>
<p>Hubbard&#8217;s whole fictional in fact, but they take it as real, just piggy backs on older spiritual groups&#8217; narratives about the soul having fallen from prior supersoul powered greatness, which Hubbard&#8217;s &#8220;Bridge to Total Freedom&#8221; supposedly with the crank Hubbard therapy and exorcism is supposed to rehabilitate and rejuvenate.</p>
<p>So, not just what Hubbard said, but what has been in the old spiritual enlightenment and soul regaining the soul&#8217;s ESP soul astronaut powers narrative, that other past human spiritual improvement groups claimed to also be on the prowl to obtain also, Scientology sits on that human soul baiting also!</p>
<p>Mike&#8217;s even laying out the &#8220;current plans&#8221; to bilk money for expanding Scientology, lays on top of the older soul baiting of selling spiritual superpowers back to people that other spiritual groups tendered and obtained followings even already in history.</p>
<p>We&#8217;ll find out what Canada Cont is doing, the defectors will always be coming once they wise up!</p>
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		By: Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-629734&quot;&gt;chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03&lt;/a&gt;.

I know it has been six days but things have been busy. Things are still busy but I am waiting for my son to come in at the airport and it gives me a chance to get caught up. Thanks for the low down on Mike Spurgeon. He sounds like one of the many people who would have been a real asset to humanity outside the cult but is stuck in it. I am sure that the local cult members will be inspired by him. It would be nice if there was a report on what happens on October 4th. Unfortunately I know no one on the inside and I haven&#039;t for quite a while. I tend to see their meetings as being very small and as such quite ridiculous. &quot;Here is our plan to take over the world (again). Why is it that sixty years after the technology for immortality was developed we can only find a hundred people in the third largest city in North America that give a care&quot;. That is what I am expected but there are always surprises. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-629734">chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03</a>.</p>
<p>I know it has been six days but things have been busy. Things are still busy but I am waiting for my son to come in at the airport and it gives me a chance to get caught up. Thanks for the low down on Mike Spurgeon. He sounds like one of the many people who would have been a real asset to humanity outside the cult but is stuck in it. I am sure that the local cult members will be inspired by him. It would be nice if there was a report on what happens on October 4th. Unfortunately I know no one on the inside and I haven&#8217;t for quite a while. I tend to see their meetings as being very small and as such quite ridiculous. &#8220;Here is our plan to take over the world (again). Why is it that sixty years after the technology for immortality was developed we can only find a hundred people in the third largest city in North America that give a care&#8221;. That is what I am expected but there are always surprises. Oh, to be a fly on the wall.</p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2014 03:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630225&quot;&gt;rom661&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, that&#039;s bloody brilliant!  That&#039;s just how the GF would freak out.  I couldn&#039;t understand what it was with clowns, and frankly neither could she.  It just was.  


This guy Puddles is great!


I thought you were funning on my name with the Cox-Maze thing - no, I didn&#039;t invent it :-)  Enjoy the vino, and best wishes for an excellent outcome with your surgery :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630225">rom661</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, that&#8217;s bloody brilliant!  That&#8217;s just how the GF would freak out.  I couldn&#8217;t understand what it was with clowns, and frankly neither could she.  It just was.  </p>
<p>This guy Puddles is great!</p>
<p>I thought you were funning on my name with the Cox-Maze thing &#8211; no, I didn&#8217;t invent it 🙂  Enjoy the vino, and best wishes for an excellent outcome with your surgery 🙂</p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Sep 2014 02:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630661&quot;&gt;Shanester&lt;/a&gt;.

Gawd, studying in school is hard enough without having to dodge the fucking SO all weekend.  BTW, I have no idea idea whether or not it&#039;s to Delphi&#039;s credit, but somebody sure taught you to write.  


Anyway, I dodged the bullet once:  A vulture started a recruit cycle on me at Flag.  He asked how old I was.  I answered (16) and he immediately broke it off.  He said something like, &quot;Ah, you&#039;re young!  Go kick around for a while!&quot;  Poor fucker probably got sent to the decks.


Not too many years later, one of them conned me into his office at CCI.  I very nearly put *that* fucker on the deck myself!  They really go on and on about what a piece of shit you are.  Luckily for all, though, I managed to get out of there without anybody getting hurt.


In a way, the Sea Org recruited us both right out of Scientology.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630661">Shanester</a>.</p>
<p>Gawd, studying in school is hard enough without having to dodge the fucking SO all weekend.  BTW, I have no idea idea whether or not it&#8217;s to Delphi&#8217;s credit, but somebody sure taught you to write.  </p>
<p>Anyway, I dodged the bullet once:  A vulture started a recruit cycle on me at Flag.  He asked how old I was.  I answered (16) and he immediately broke it off.  He said something like, &#8220;Ah, you&#8217;re young!  Go kick around for a while!&#8221;  Poor fucker probably got sent to the decks.</p>
<p>Not too many years later, one of them conned me into his office at CCI.  I very nearly put *that* fucker on the deck myself!  They really go on and on about what a piece of shit you are.  Luckily for all, though, I managed to get out of there without anybody getting hurt.</p>
<p>In a way, the Sea Org recruited us both right out of Scientology.</p>
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		By: Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 23:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630090&quot;&gt;Shanester&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t think there has been a story about that on the Bunker. Probably discussed in the comments though.
Clicks from India, or click farming is most probably to boost scientology&#039;s ad clicks on Youtube and such. This country has almost no scientology presence, so why would 5-10% of the clicks on their site come from this country?
Most of Tony&#039;s clicks come from countries that are not known for click farming, and thus could be regarded a more legitimate addition to the stats.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630090">Shanester</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t think there has been a story about that on the Bunker. Probably discussed in the comments though.<br />
Clicks from India, or click farming is most probably to boost scientology&#8217;s ad clicks on Youtube and such. This country has almost no scientology presence, so why would 5-10% of the clicks on their site come from this country?<br />
Most of Tony&#8217;s clicks come from countries that are not known for click farming, and thus could be regarded a more legitimate addition to the stats.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630206&quot;&gt;Gus_Cox&lt;/a&gt;.

When the Sheridan (formerly COSMOD) Mission finally closed in 1984, some Delphi staff members started making dutiful weekend treks to Portland for their services and training. I was ahead of graduation schedule and thought I could handle starting my Scilon training early, although -- you&#039;re right -- the stupid schedule of studying all week and the freakin&#039; weekend soon proved to be more than I was willing to handle, especially with those dreadful Sea Org vampires lurking at Portland Foundation.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/21/scientology-sunday-funnies-turning-begging-for-cash-into-an-art-form/comment-page-1/#comment-630206">Gus_Cox</a>.</p>
<p>When the Sheridan (formerly COSMOD) Mission finally closed in 1984, some Delphi staff members started making dutiful weekend treks to Portland for their services and training. I was ahead of graduation schedule and thought I could handle starting my Scilon training early, although &#8212; you&#8217;re right &#8212; the stupid schedule of studying all week and the freakin&#8217; weekend soon proved to be more than I was willing to handle, especially with those dreadful Sea Org vampires lurking at Portland Foundation.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 20:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Good for you. So, we humans may make stupid mistakes, but we do generally realize they&#039;re mistakes, and we learn from them. I hope. Glad you got your kids out before DM could get hold of them. I&#039;m learning so much from everyone here about survival. ]]></description>
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<p>Good for you. So, we humans may make stupid mistakes, but we do generally realize they&#8217;re mistakes, and we learn from them. I hope. Glad you got your kids out before DM could get hold of them. I&#8217;m learning so much from everyone here about survival. </p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Sep 2014 19:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Miss you too, Bury!]]></description>
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<p>Miss you too, Bury!</p>
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