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		By: Missjune75		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology is a money hungry mind control cult. I hope Narconon every where shuts down. However, if anyone can explain to my how Narcanon and their saunas are any less effective or less scientific than Hazeldon and other 12 Steps treatment I&#039;ld be interested to hear it. Not sure asking God to remove your defects (and the rest of Bill Wilson&#039;s ridiculous writing) is any less ridiculous than sitting in a sauna overdosing on Niacin. 
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology is a money hungry mind control cult. I hope Narconon every where shuts down. However, if anyone can explain to my how Narcanon and their saunas are any less effective or less scientific than Hazeldon and other 12 Steps treatment I&#8217;ld be interested to hear it. Not sure asking God to remove your defects (and the rest of Bill Wilson&#8217;s ridiculous writing) is any less ridiculous than sitting in a sauna overdosing on Niacin. </p>
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		By: kmadelyn		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 22:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617277&quot;&gt;Jgg2012&lt;/a&gt;.

Great article. &quot;Scientology Dictator, David Miscavige...&quot;? Dude, sounds like Canada is seriously OVER you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617277">Jgg2012</a>.</p>
<p>Great article. &#8220;Scientology Dictator, David Miscavige&#8230;&#8221;? Dude, sounds like Canada is seriously OVER you.</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342&quot;&gt;Ethics Officer&lt;/a&gt;.

EO - I am glad you are familiar with the current and past court cases.  Those are impotent.  Philosofa referred to &quot;Cof$ criminality.&quot;  You said &quot;What crimes do you mean for example? Just curious.&quot;  I listed them - fraud, etc.  One of the biggest convictions of course, was for Operation Snow White for break-in in and stealing govt docs, and for which as you know, top GO operatives including Mary Sue Hubbard went to prison.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342">Ethics Officer</a>.</p>
<p>EO &#8211; I am glad you are familiar with the current and past court cases.  Those are impotent.  Philosofa referred to &#8220;Cof$ criminality.&#8221;  You said &#8220;What crimes do you mean for example? Just curious.&#8221;  I listed them &#8211; fraud, etc.  One of the biggest convictions of course, was for Operation Snow White for break-in in and stealing govt docs, and for which as you know, top GO operatives including Mary Sue Hubbard went to prison.</p>
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		By: And I'm Cute, Too		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 15:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342&quot;&gt;Ethics Officer&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, where to begin...


  - the illegal infiltration and wiretapping of U.S. government offices (dubbed Operation Snow White); several Scientologists were convicted of that, including Mary Sue Hubbard


  - the framing of journalist Paulette Cooper for crimes against Scientology Inc, and the attempts to murder her, and to manipulate her into committing suicide (dubbed Operation Freakout)


  - the ongoing inhumane treatment of workers in the Sea Org (100 hours of work/week, little to no pay, passports withheld, no access to safety equipment or proper health care - this isn&#039;t a special operation, just general policy)


  - the &lt;b&gt;intentional&lt;/b&gt; enslavement of minors in the Sea Org (this simply makes me want to throw up)


...and that&#039;s just the beginning.  But I&#039;m tired, and I gotta get to bed.  If you haven&#039;t heard about all these crimes and abuses, please look them up when you have the time.  I hope that helps.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342">Ethics Officer</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, where to begin&#8230;</p>
<p>  &#8211; the illegal infiltration and wiretapping of U.S. government offices (dubbed Operation Snow White); several Scientologists were convicted of that, including Mary Sue Hubbard</p>
<p>  &#8211; the framing of journalist Paulette Cooper for crimes against Scientology Inc, and the attempts to murder her, and to manipulate her into committing suicide (dubbed Operation Freakout)</p>
<p>  &#8211; the ongoing inhumane treatment of workers in the Sea Org (100 hours of work/week, little to no pay, passports withheld, no access to safety equipment or proper health care &#8211; this isn&#8217;t a special operation, just general policy)</p>
<p>  &#8211; the <b>intentional</b> enslavement of minors in the Sea Org (this simply makes me want to throw up)</p>
<p>&#8230;and that&#8217;s just the beginning.  But I&#8217;m tired, and I gotta get to bed.  If you haven&#8217;t heard about all these crimes and abuses, please look them up when you have the time.  I hope that helps.</p>
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		By: Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 05:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342&quot;&gt;Ethics Officer&lt;/a&gt;.

Still here defending scientology, aren&#039;t you EO, under the ruse of &quot;just curious.&quot; BTW, committing crimes and then evading the law or escaping conviction doesn&#039;t mean you are not a criminal. Most people get that, unless they are reflexively defensive due to implanted thought-stopping LRH tech. I doubt that you really &quot;know the lawsuits&quot; and also doubt that you are curious enough to have read today&#039;s full post. Still waiting for you to demonstrate it. Pulling for you, actually. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617342">Ethics Officer</a>.</p>
<p>Still here defending scientology, aren&#8217;t you EO, under the ruse of &#8220;just curious.&#8221; BTW, committing crimes and then evading the law or escaping conviction doesn&#8217;t mean you are not a criminal. Most people get that, unless they are reflexively defensive due to implanted thought-stopping LRH tech. I doubt that you really &#8220;know the lawsuits&#8221; and also doubt that you are curious enough to have read today&#8217;s full post. Still waiting for you to demonstrate it. Pulling for you, actually. </p>
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		By: Ethics Officer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ethics Officer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 04:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617308&quot;&gt;Free Minds, Free Hearts&lt;/a&gt;.

I know the lawsuits, Free Minds. And I&#039;m not saying that there aren&#039;t been criminal actions been done by Scientologists.


But being involved in a court case doesn&#039;t make someone a criminal, unless you get convicted. That&#039;s why I was curious which criminal action you referred to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617308">Free Minds, Free Hearts</a>.</p>
<p>I know the lawsuits, Free Minds. And I&#8217;m not saying that there aren&#8217;t been criminal actions been done by Scientologists.</p>
<p>But being involved in a court case doesn&#8217;t make someone a criminal, unless you get convicted. That&#8217;s why I was curious which criminal action you referred to.</p>
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		By: CobGatYour$$		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 04:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617332&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Will do right now! Puts me in a good frame before I head down to Cabo San Lucas!:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617332">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Will do right now! Puts me in a good frame before I head down to Cabo San Lucas!:)</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 04:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617328&quot;&gt;CobGatYour$$&lt;/a&gt;.

If you want to see some examples of sick, dark, senses of humor, take a look at the lists I&#039;ve gathered from the Bunkaroo&#039;s comments, if you want to see it on view.  (Most of them are from this blog, but I&#039;ve purloined a few from other sources).   Here&#039;s the  &lt;b&gt;Key to the $cientology Nicknames and things said about $cientology&lt;/b&gt;  http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059781

The biggest list, over 1150 items (a lot are variations, so I&#039;d say that boiled down, it&#039;s about 700 items) is &lt;b&gt;DAVID MI$CAVIGE NICKNAMES&lt;/b&gt;  http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1563541963  The ratio of nicknames for DM to LRH is over 4:1.  Little Davy sure triggers a lot of animosity.

The one most loaded with snark, and the second longest is the list of &lt;b&gt;THINGS SAID ABOUT $CIENTOLOGY &#038; DIANETICS&lt;/b&gt;   http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059448]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617328">CobGatYour$$</a>.</p>
<p>If you want to see some examples of sick, dark, senses of humor, take a look at the lists I&#8217;ve gathered from the Bunkaroo&#8217;s comments, if you want to see it on view.  (Most of them are from this blog, but I&#8217;ve purloined a few from other sources).   Here&#8217;s the  <b>Key to the $cientology Nicknames and things said about $cientology</b>  <a href="http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059781" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059781</a></p>
<p>The biggest list, over 1150 items (a lot are variations, so I&#8217;d say that boiled down, it&#8217;s about 700 items) is <b>DAVID MI$CAVIGE NICKNAMES</b>  <a href="http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1563541963" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1563541963</a>  The ratio of nicknames for DM to LRH is over 4:1.  Little Davy sure triggers a lot of animosity.</p>
<p>The one most loaded with snark, and the second longest is the list of <b>THINGS SAID ABOUT $CIENTOLOGY &amp; DIANETICS</b>   <a href="http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059448" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2014/06/12/more-proof-of-kerri-kasems-scientology-involvement-and-laura-prepon-lies-like-a-rug/#comment-1439059448</a></p>
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		By: CobGatYour$$		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 03:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-616878&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

I mean, WE ALL REALLY HAVE AN AMAZINGLY SICK, DARK, SENSE OF HUMOR! I LOVE IT!]]></description>
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<p>I mean, WE ALL REALLY HAVE AN AMAZINGLY SICK, DARK, SENSE OF HUMOR! I LOVE IT!</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2014 02:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617077&quot;&gt;Ethics Officer&lt;/a&gt;.

EO - Re criminality - Check out the lawsuits, many of them federal.  Crimes include fraud (Garcia, Woodward), harassment (Rathbun), coerced abortion (deCrecenzo), and 20-30 lawsuits against Narconon for fraud, fraudulent use of credentials, insurance fraud, and check http://www.forum.exscn.net/forumdisplay.php?99-Legal-and-Government-Actions-against-Scientology for a fuller list.  Older include Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout. Someone is keeping track of current court dates but I am not sure who.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/09/01/signs-of-chaos-emerge-for-scientologys-drug-rehab-legal-defense/comment-page-1/#comment-617077">Ethics Officer</a>.</p>
<p>EO &#8211; Re criminality &#8211; Check out the lawsuits, many of them federal.  Crimes include fraud (Garcia, Woodward), harassment (Rathbun), coerced abortion (deCrecenzo), and 20-30 lawsuits against Narconon for fraud, fraudulent use of credentials, insurance fraud, and check <a href="http://www.forum.exscn.net/forumdisplay.php?99-Legal-and-Government-Actions-against-Scientology" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.forum.exscn.net/forumdisplay.php?99-Legal-and-Government-Actions-against-Scientology</a> for a fuller list.  Older include Operation Snow White and Operation Freakout. Someone is keeping track of current court dates but I am not sure who.</p>
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