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		By: coonellie		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 07:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558163&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks! It is good to be seen :). I&#039;ve still not heard back from baby C&#039;s driver&#039;s ed course...and the city I&#039;m in makes me very much alone. Lots of whales here :(. Called again but got nowhere. In order to engage the bunker would mean exposing my location ...baby is terrified at the thought. sigh...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558163">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks! It is good to be seen :). I&#8217;ve still not heard back from baby C&#8217;s driver&#8217;s ed course&#8230;and the city I&#8217;m in makes me very much alone. Lots of whales here :(. Called again but got nowhere. In order to engage the bunker would mean exposing my location &#8230;baby is terrified at the thought. sigh&#8230;</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 17:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-560122&quot;&gt;Edward Whalley&lt;/a&gt;.

I thought that he&#039;d written further for the magazine.  Was it while it had become &lt;i&gt;Analog?&lt;/i&gt;

I can imagine that he had no love for lrh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-560122">Edward Whalley</a>.</p>
<p>I thought that he&#8217;d written further for the magazine.  Was it while it had become <i>Analog?</i></p>
<p>I can imagine that he had no love for lrh.</p>
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		By: Edward Whalley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Whalley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2014 14:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558646&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, he came back for a couple of late novels...This was adapted from an overheard educational TV reading program in his 1980 blockbuster &quot;Golem 100&quot; (pronounced, by people in the know, Golem Eight).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558646">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, he came back for a couple of late novels&#8230;This was adapted from an overheard educational TV reading program in his 1980 blockbuster &#8220;Golem 100&#8221; (pronounced, by people in the know, Golem Eight).</p>
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		By: TDA1541A		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558442&quot;&gt;allioops&lt;/a&gt;.

Connect it to what his Assistent said in her Interview]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558442">allioops</a>.</p>
<p>Connect it to what his Assistent said in her Interview</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 05:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558954&quot;&gt;Jimmy Threetimes&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, Jimmy. No need to apologize. My comments usually go unseen because I come along late, after the crowd has moved on. So I&#039;m happy when anyone sees something in my post that they think is worth passing along.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558954">Jimmy Threetimes</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, Jimmy. No need to apologize. My comments usually go unseen because I come along late, after the crowd has moved on. So I&#8217;m happy when anyone sees something in my post that they think is worth passing along.</p>
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		By: Jimmy Threetimes		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jimmy Threetimes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 02:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558833&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

I am sorry about that, grundoon.  That is a well-researched, well-written explanation.  I only remembered, off the top of my head, that the first I&#039;d heard of that explanation was posted by Max.  I obviously missed your earlier posts, and I didn&#039;t look any further to see that you did the legwork.  I will save the link to your original comment for the next time I see the &quot;he wanted to take over Bulgravia&quot; claim here.  

Because there is more than enough factual information available to discredit LRH.  No one should have to turn a typo into anything it&#039;s not in order to mock him. The conspiracies that came of it are pretty funny, though.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558833">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>I am sorry about that, grundoon.  That is a well-researched, well-written explanation.  I only remembered, off the top of my head, that the first I&#8217;d heard of that explanation was posted by Max.  I obviously missed your earlier posts, and I didn&#8217;t look any further to see that you did the legwork.  I will save the link to your original comment for the next time I see the &#8220;he wanted to take over Bulgravia&#8221; claim here.  </p>
<p>Because there is more than enough factual information available to discredit LRH.  No one should have to turn a typo into anything it&#8217;s not in order to mock him. The conspiracies that came of it are pretty funny, though.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 22:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-557891&quot;&gt;Jimmy Threetimes&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, L. Ron Hubbard once owned a mansion in Belgravia. I don&#039;t know whether he bribed the police.

Max kindly referenced my research... change (dot) to a dot...

tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/04/claire-headley-takes-us-ot-here-we-go-with-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-one/comment-page-1/#comment-1109138831

tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/02/jon-atack-answers-the-question-how-do-smart-people-fall-for-scientology/#comment-1106895730]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-557891">Jimmy Threetimes</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, L. Ron Hubbard once owned a mansion in Belgravia. I don&#8217;t know whether he bribed the police.</p>
<p>Max kindly referenced my research&#8230; change (dot) to a dot&#8230;</p>
<p>tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/04/claire-headley-takes-us-ot-here-we-go-with-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-one/comment-page-1/#comment-1109138831</p>
<p>tonyortega(dot)org/2013/11/02/jon-atack-answers-the-question-how-do-smart-people-fall-for-scientology/#comment-1106895730</p>
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		By: i-Betty		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[i-Betty]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558156&quot;&gt;Elar Aitch&lt;/a&gt;.

I am! :D]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558156">Elar Aitch</a>.</p>
<p>I am! 😀</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 21:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-557740&quot;&gt;RBE&lt;/a&gt;.

As insane as this photo looks, when we were all on our &quot;internship&quot; in the 70&#039;s...we were shown this photo. What did we do? We ALL went home, hooked up plants, and asked yes or no questions ..looking at our meters, expecting it to &#039;read&#039; (react): &quot;Are you getting enough water?&quot; &quot;Yes I am getting enough sunshine&quot; etc. When NOTHING read (reacted) we realized it would be like we having HUGE clamps on us as big as a gigantic crane. LOL...insanity in action. It&#039;s true...sad and true. 

The worst part is we all stayed, figuring &quot;ok, that didn&#039;t work---we must need MORE auditing or training to get the &quot;OT&quot; powerz Hubbard had. RIGHT. IF you&#039;re &quot;in&quot; and reading this, know this: from the bottom to OT 8...you will NOT get these supposed &quot;powers&quot;: PERIOD. Love to all :) Tory/Magoo (...I got &quot;in&quot; in 1969, escaped out in July of 2000)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-557740">RBE</a>.</p>
<p>As insane as this photo looks, when we were all on our &#8220;internship&#8221; in the 70&#8217;s&#8230;we were shown this photo. What did we do? We ALL went home, hooked up plants, and asked yes or no questions ..looking at our meters, expecting it to &#8216;read&#8217; (react): &#8220;Are you getting enough water?&#8221; &#8220;Yes I am getting enough sunshine&#8221; etc. When NOTHING read (reacted) we realized it would be like we having HUGE clamps on us as big as a gigantic crane. LOL&#8230;insanity in action. It&#8217;s true&#8230;sad and true. </p>
<p>The worst part is we all stayed, figuring &#8220;ok, that didn&#8217;t work&#8212;we must need MORE auditing or training to get the &#8220;OT&#8221; powerz Hubbard had. RIGHT. IF you&#8217;re &#8220;in&#8221; and reading this, know this: from the bottom to OT 8&#8230;you will NOT get these supposed &#8220;powers&#8221;: PERIOD. Love to all 🙂 Tory/Magoo (&#8230;I got &#8220;in&#8221; in 1969, escaped out in July of 2000)</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558638&quot;&gt;Edward Whalley&lt;/a&gt;.

I know that I&#039;ve read Bester in a lot of anthologies.  From what I read in Wikipedia, he was one hell of an author.  It mentions. &quot;he stopped writing for the magazine in mid-1950 when editor John Campbell became preoccupied with L. Ron Hubbard and Dianetics, the forerunner to Scientology.&quot;


I miss him, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/06/05/60-years-ago-and-today-scientology-in-its-heyday-and-now-not-so-much/comment-page-1/#comment-558638">Edward Whalley</a>.</p>
<p>I know that I&#8217;ve read Bester in a lot of anthologies.  From what I read in Wikipedia, he was one hell of an author.  It mentions. &#8220;he stopped writing for the magazine in mid-1950 when editor John Campbell became preoccupied with L. Ron Hubbard and Dianetics, the forerunner to Scientology.&#8221;</p>
<p>I miss him, too.</p>
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