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	Comments on: TIZIANO LUGLI: A new short film about Scientology and &#8216;slavery&#8217;	</title>
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		By: Hyder Simpson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hyder Simpson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2014 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>testing &#8217;cause disquis never lets me post right after I sign in</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 13:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540998&quot;&gt;Exterrier&lt;/a&gt;.

From the reports I&#039;ve seen, the consolidation of the Missions was ordered by Hubbard, but implemented by Miscavige.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540998">Exterrier</a>.</p>
<p>From the reports I&#8217;ve seen, the consolidation of the Missions was ordered by Hubbard, but implemented by Miscavige.</p>
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		By: Exterrier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exterrier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 05:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540128&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, from what I have heard and read from old time members, the church was way less centralized decades  back, before  DM&#039;s massacre of the mission holders.   (And maybe that was Lrons&#039;s eventual intention, I would imagine...the reining in of control and income).     They were run like businesses trying to attract and please customers, and were not Sea Org slave pits.    But it is sure a Fear Factory these days. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540128">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, from what I have heard and read from old time members, the church was way less centralized decades  back, before  DM&#8217;s massacre of the mission holders.   (And maybe that was Lrons&#8217;s eventual intention, I would imagine&#8230;the reining in of control and income).     They were run like businesses trying to attract and please customers, and were not Sea Org slave pits.    But it is sure a Fear Factory these days. </p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 01:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-539907&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

LOL! Still makes me laugh :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-539907">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>LOL! Still makes me laugh 🙂</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2014 01:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540120&quot;&gt;Jimmy Threetimes&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually---they were called &quot;Writers of the Future&quot; as yes, the PR line was what you said, Jimmy. In truth, it was one more way to try to keep L Ron Hubbard in the light and thought well of. How did it work? As usual----THUD. (Any of the good writers, just as any of the good celebrities &quot;in&quot; $cientology would have gotten there fine w/out $cientology...in fact, possibly faster and farther)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540120">Jimmy Threetimes</a>.</p>
<p>Actually&#8212;they were called &#8220;Writers of the Future&#8221; as yes, the PR line was what you said, Jimmy. In truth, it was one more way to try to keep L Ron Hubbard in the light and thought well of. How did it work? As usual&#8212;-THUD. (Any of the good writers, just as any of the good celebrities &#8220;in&#8221; $cientology would have gotten there fine w/out $cientology&#8230;in fact, possibly faster and farther)</p>
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		By: WhamBham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[WhamBham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[As a former PR professional, I am perplexed as to why this video hasn&#039;t been distributed to various media outlets, etc. I have sent it to some but am still confused as to why this wasn&#039;t &quot;launched&quot; to media...he needs either a PR specialist or needs to learn media contacts.  Hope it gets picked up my more outlets...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a former PR professional, I am perplexed as to why this video hasn&#8217;t been distributed to various media outlets, etc. I have sent it to some but am still confused as to why this wasn&#8217;t &#8220;launched&#8221; to media&#8230;he needs either a PR specialist or needs to learn media contacts.  Hope it gets picked up my more outlets&#8230;</p>
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		By: Jgg2012		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jgg2012]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 18:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540265&quot;&gt;DodoTheLaser&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, too much of anything is bad.  You can die from too much Vitamin A.  That&#039;s why Scientology&#039;s quackery is so dangerous--what is safe depends on the amount taken, the person&#039;s prior history, etc.  You can&#039;t just say &quot;take this&quot; or &quot;stop taking this&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540265">DodoTheLaser</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, too much of anything is bad.  You can die from too much Vitamin A.  That&#8217;s why Scientology&#8217;s quackery is so dangerous&#8211;what is safe depends on the amount taken, the person&#8217;s prior history, etc.  You can&#8217;t just say &#8220;take this&#8221; or &#8220;stop taking this&#8221;.</p>
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		By: L. C. Spencer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L. C. Spencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 12:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540194&quot;&gt;NOLAGirl&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;We have never had anyone harmed doing the program&quot;


And that right there is deceit. In a just world they could be shut down just for that one statement.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540194">NOLAGirl</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;We have never had anyone harmed doing the program&#8221;</p>
<p>And that right there is deceit. In a just world they could be shut down just for that one statement.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 10:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540268&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, I went and looked at that Michael K wrote, and he tells the story better.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540268">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, I went and looked at that Michael K wrote, and he tells the story better.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2014 10:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540231&quot;&gt;media_lush&lt;/a&gt;.

Emily talked about taking him to Club Box on a talk show. IIRC, it wasn&#039;t a club where people would participate, but watch.  His concern was that when they come out of it that he not walk out alone.


I was doing something else (reading the Bunker) and I didn&#039;t pay too much attention.  The whole interview sounded like she gave him some shit while they were filming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/15/tiziano-lugli-a-new-short-film-about-scientology-and-slavery/comment-page-1/#comment-540231">media_lush</a>.</p>
<p>Emily talked about taking him to Club Box on a talk show. IIRC, it wasn&#8217;t a club where people would participate, but watch.  His concern was that when they come out of it that he not walk out alone.</p>
<p>I was doing something else (reading the Bunker) and I didn&#8217;t pay too much attention.  The whole interview sounded like she gave him some shit while they were filming.</p>
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