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		By: Natalia 2.0		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia 2.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2014 03:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539470&quot;&gt;media_lush&lt;/a&gt;.

No :)]]></description>
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<p>No 🙂</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538929&quot;&gt;aquaclara&lt;/a&gt;.

All in good time with the book and interviews.  I am still as quiet and polite as ever but I also take great notes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538929">aquaclara</a>.</p>
<p>All in good time with the book and interviews.  I am still as quiet and polite as ever but I also take great notes!</p>
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		By: media_lush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[media_lush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 18:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539236&quot;&gt;Natalia 2.0&lt;/a&gt;.

sorry... had no idea it was supposed to be funny






...oh, and yeah.... get over yourself!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539236">Natalia 2.0</a>.</p>
<p>sorry&#8230; had no idea it was supposed to be funny</p>
<p>&#8230;oh, and yeah&#8230;. get over yourself!</p>
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		By: Zana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538794&quot;&gt;Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack&lt;/a&gt;.

Yep.  Agree.  And they were under pressure to do it to &quot;get their stats up.&quot;  Criminal.  These are the guys who will pass out the Kool Aid when it is time for everyone to succumb because that big bad world out there is against them.   Yes... I am literally shaking my head as well.  When we take ALL the blinders off and peal the gauze off of our eyes... and see what is REALLY there... &quot;obnose&quot; is a good word for it... then it&#039;s mind-boggling that so many people (including me) could have fallen for it all. 


I&#039;m in the process of selling every scrap of LRH stuff that I have.  Not even pennies on the dollar.  I&#039;m so glad to get this &quot;chatter&quot; from my bookshelves and out of my house.  I kept wondering if there were something... just one little thing in all those words... that would give me the key to expressing my greatness... and I have come to the conclusion that there is absolutely NOTHING in LRH&#039;s works that will do that.  In all of the Basics, Congresses, ACCs, Red Vols, Green Vols... whatever.  They are not designed to lead us to the fulfillment of our innate greatness... they are designed to take us along the road to the slaughter.  Keep us wandering wandering wandering... till we give up everything in our lives for nothing.


And the funny thing is... our greatness is inside of us at all times.  We are the alpha and the omega... if we will just look.  And everything Scientology teaches is to look outside.  To get permission from someone else.   Anywhere else but within ourselves and our own truth.  Ahhhh.... to discover this in time for me to live the rest of my life in my own way was worth the thousands of dollars spent.  That&#039;s the Ahah.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538794">Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack</a>.</p>
<p>Yep.  Agree.  And they were under pressure to do it to &#8220;get their stats up.&#8221;  Criminal.  These are the guys who will pass out the Kool Aid when it is time for everyone to succumb because that big bad world out there is against them.   Yes&#8230; I am literally shaking my head as well.  When we take ALL the blinders off and peal the gauze off of our eyes&#8230; and see what is REALLY there&#8230; &#8220;obnose&#8221; is a good word for it&#8230; then it&#8217;s mind-boggling that so many people (including me) could have fallen for it all. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m in the process of selling every scrap of LRH stuff that I have.  Not even pennies on the dollar.  I&#8217;m so glad to get this &#8220;chatter&#8221; from my bookshelves and out of my house.  I kept wondering if there were something&#8230; just one little thing in all those words&#8230; that would give me the key to expressing my greatness&#8230; and I have come to the conclusion that there is absolutely NOTHING in LRH&#8217;s works that will do that.  In all of the Basics, Congresses, ACCs, Red Vols, Green Vols&#8230; whatever.  They are not designed to lead us to the fulfillment of our innate greatness&#8230; they are designed to take us along the road to the slaughter.  Keep us wandering wandering wandering&#8230; till we give up everything in our lives for nothing.</p>
<p>And the funny thing is&#8230; our greatness is inside of us at all times.  We are the alpha and the omega&#8230; if we will just look.  And everything Scientology teaches is to look outside.  To get permission from someone else.   Anywhere else but within ourselves and our own truth.  Ahhhh&#8230;. to discover this in time for me to live the rest of my life in my own way was worth the thousands of dollars spent.  That&#8217;s the Ahah.</p>
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		By: And I don't rent cars!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And I don't rent cars!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539007&quot;&gt;J. Swift&lt;/a&gt;.

Oops, I&#039;m sorry. I misunderstood the video you did with Karen. Thank you for the clarification. I will edit my comment right now.

Cars]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539007">J. Swift</a>.</p>
<p>Oops, I&#8217;m sorry. I misunderstood the video you did with Karen. Thank you for the clarification. I will edit my comment right now.</p>
<p>Cars</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 15:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538823&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

There is a genetic predisposition for just about every mental illness in the DSM.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538823">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>There is a genetic predisposition for just about every mental illness in the DSM.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 15:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538936&quot;&gt;SOL&lt;/a&gt;.

Cute that you think the world is so black and white ;)

&lt;blockquote&gt;DSM-IV Definition of Mental Disorder

Features

A

a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual

B

is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom

C

must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one

D

a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual

E

neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individualOther Considerations

F

no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of “mental disorder”

G

the concept of mental disorder (like many other concepts in medicine and science) lacks a consistent operational definition that covers all situations&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;DSM-IV notes that “… although this manual provides a classification of mental disorders, it must be admitted that no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of ‘mental disorder.’ The concept of mental disorder, like many other concepts in medicine and science, lacks a consistent operational definition that covers all situations. All medical conditions are defined on various levels of abstraction--for example, structural pathology (e.g., ulcerative colitis), symptom presentation (e.g., migraine), deviance from a physiological norm (e.g., hypertension), and etiology (e.g., pneumococcal pneumonia). Mental disorders have also been defined by a variety of concepts (e.g., distress, dyscontrol, disadvantage, disability, inflexibility, irrationality, syndromal pattern, etiology, and statistical deviation). Each is a useful indicator for a mental disorder, but none is equivalent to the concept, and different situations call for different definitions.”

DSM-IV goes on, however, to note that, “Despite these caveats, the definition of mental disorder that was included in DSM-III and DSM-III-R is presented here because it is as useful as any other available definition and has helped to guide decisions regarding which conditions on the boundary between normality and pathology should be included in DSM-IV. In DSM-IV, each of the mental disorders is conceptualized as a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. In addition, this syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one. Whatever its original cause, it must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual. Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538936">SOL</a>.</p>
<p>Cute that you think the world is so black and white 😉</p>
<blockquote><p>DSM-IV Definition of Mental Disorder</p>
<p>Features</p>
<p>A</p>
<p>a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual</p>
<p>B</p>
<p>is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom</p>
<p>C</p>
<p>must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one</p>
<p>D</p>
<p>a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual</p>
<p>E</p>
<p>neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individualOther Considerations</p>
<p>F</p>
<p>no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of “mental disorder”</p>
<p>G</p>
<p>the concept of mental disorder (like many other concepts in medicine and science) lacks a consistent operational definition that covers all situations</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>DSM-IV notes that “… although this manual provides a classification of mental disorders, it must be admitted that no definition adequately specifies precise boundaries for the concept of ‘mental disorder.’ The concept of mental disorder, like many other concepts in medicine and science, lacks a consistent operational definition that covers all situations. All medical conditions are defined on various levels of abstraction&#8211;for example, structural pathology (e.g., ulcerative colitis), symptom presentation (e.g., migraine), deviance from a physiological norm (e.g., hypertension), and etiology (e.g., pneumococcal pneumonia). Mental disorders have also been defined by a variety of concepts (e.g., distress, dyscontrol, disadvantage, disability, inflexibility, irrationality, syndromal pattern, etiology, and statistical deviation). Each is a useful indicator for a mental disorder, but none is equivalent to the concept, and different situations call for different definitions.”</p>
<p>DSM-IV goes on, however, to note that, “Despite these caveats, the definition of mental disorder that was included in DSM-III and DSM-III-R is presented here because it is as useful as any other available definition and has helped to guide decisions regarding which conditions on the boundary between normality and pathology should be included in DSM-IV. In DSM-IV, each of the mental disorders is conceptualized as a clinically significant behavioral or psychological syndrome or pattern that occurs in an individual and that is associated with present distress (e.g., a painful symptom) or disability (i.e., impairment in one or more important areas of functioning) or with a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom. In addition, this syndrome or pattern must not be merely an expectable and culturally sanctioned response to a particular event, for example, the death of a loved one. Whatever its original cause, it must currently be considered a manifestation of a behavioral, psychological, or biological dysfunction in the individual. Neither deviant behavior (e.g., political, religious, or sexual) nor conflicts that are primarily between the individual and society are mental disorders unless the deviance or conflict is a symptom of a dysfunction in the individual, as described above.”</p></blockquote>
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		By: Natalia 2.0		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natalia 2.0]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539024&quot;&gt;media_lush&lt;/a&gt;.

Do me a favor and leave me alone the way I leave you alone rather than correcting me and bringing up petty contradictions to my most harmless comments. I was joking but you and I OBVIOUSLY do not understand each other&#039;s senses of humor. I do not enjoy interacting with you.]]></description>
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<p>Do me a favor and leave me alone the way I leave you alone rather than correcting me and bringing up petty contradictions to my most harmless comments. I was joking but you and I OBVIOUSLY do not understand each other&#8217;s senses of humor. I do not enjoy interacting with you.</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 11:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539034&quot;&gt;ThetaBara&lt;/a&gt;.

ThetaBara, thanks. that&#039;s cool you are on the front lines. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-539034">ThetaBara</a>.</p>
<p>ThetaBara, thanks. that&#8217;s cool you are on the front lines. </p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aegerprimo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 11:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/13/dox-the-appeal-to-restore-the-class-action-lawsuit-against-scientologys-rehab-network/comment-page-1/#comment-538994&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

This is great.  Can I share this on WWP?]]></description>
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<p>This is great.  Can I share this on WWP?</p>
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