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	Comments on: Jamie DeWolf: I&#8217;ve found the last memoir of the son of Scientology&#8217;s founder	</title>
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		By: Joel Bruner		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The Sacred Magic Of Abra-Melin, has a passage that really stands out as the complete opposite of what LRH did with Scientology! 

&quot;Thou shalt in no way use this Sacred Science to offend the Great God, and to work ill unto thy neighbour; thou shalt communicate it unto no living person whom thou dost not thoroughly know by long practice and conversation, examining well whether such a person really intendeth to work for the Good or for the Evil. And if thou shalt wish to grant it unto him, thou shalt well observe and punctually, the same fashion and manner, which I have made use of with thee. And if thou doest otherwise, he who shall receive it shall draw no fruit therefrom. Keep thyself as thou wouldst from a Serpent from selling this Science, and from making merchandise of it; because the Grace of the Lord is given unto us free and gratis, and we ought in no wise to sell the same.&quot;

It might have worked for a while but the final consequence is you die in hiding and your creation slowly implodes (taking people and their money with it)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The Sacred Magic Of Abra-Melin, has a passage that really stands out as the complete opposite of what LRH did with Scientology! </p>
<p>&#8220;Thou shalt in no way use this Sacred Science to offend the Great God, and to work ill unto thy neighbour; thou shalt communicate it unto no living person whom thou dost not thoroughly know by long practice and conversation, examining well whether such a person really intendeth to work for the Good or for the Evil. And if thou shalt wish to grant it unto him, thou shalt well observe and punctually, the same fashion and manner, which I have made use of with thee. And if thou doest otherwise, he who shall receive it shall draw no fruit therefrom. Keep thyself as thou wouldst from a Serpent from selling this Science, and from making merchandise of it; because the Grace of the Lord is given unto us free and gratis, and we ought in no wise to sell the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>It might have worked for a while but the final consequence is you die in hiding and your creation slowly implodes (taking people and their money with it)</p>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2014 16:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537017&quot;&gt;Sherbet&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello Sherb.  Posting back here so as not to derail, etc.  From Bury to me via email, Flag Down was tough on a few folks in terms of the work involved - THDNE was very involved &#038; did a lot of work (hosting a fine brunch, etc) - she spent a lot of money to pull it all off.  Also she has been fair gamed by the COS there on her own home turf and I believe that this really hurt &#038; scared her hard - yeah, it makes a person duck &#038; dodge &#038; STFU - so she lays low sometimes - for long periods, doesn&#039;t communicate - she has to, I think, for the sake of her own peace of mind.  

There were some serious conflicts @FD, I would say personality conflicts, between some of the participants, all of whom have STRONG personalities - some felt extremely under-appreciated &#038; got their feelings hurt.  Now, please know, that I am saying these things using only my personal observations &#038; reading (listening) intently to the conversations in the Bunker.  I of course am hoping that Hole is okay &#038; carrying on &#038; living her life well - I know she is, she has to, she is a strong one.  She has a gift when it comes to expressing herself &#038; she does it and will do it, when &#038; where she feels inspired - sometimes it is not here in the bunker.

Don&#039;t know if any of this helps - this is just my very limited perspective.  FD was extremely intense for many of the folks who attended &#038; some feelings got hurt - it happens.  Who, what, when &#038; how - doesn&#039;t matter so much as we must simply go on now... even in the face of hurt feelings.
love to you Sherbet, Q]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537017">Sherbet</a>.</p>
<p>Hello Sherb.  Posting back here so as not to derail, etc.  From Bury to me via email, Flag Down was tough on a few folks in terms of the work involved &#8211; THDNE was very involved &amp; did a lot of work (hosting a fine brunch, etc) &#8211; she spent a lot of money to pull it all off.  Also she has been fair gamed by the COS there on her own home turf and I believe that this really hurt &amp; scared her hard &#8211; yeah, it makes a person duck &amp; dodge &amp; STFU &#8211; so she lays low sometimes &#8211; for long periods, doesn&#8217;t communicate &#8211; she has to, I think, for the sake of her own peace of mind.  </p>
<p>There were some serious conflicts @FD, I would say personality conflicts, between some of the participants, all of whom have STRONG personalities &#8211; some felt extremely under-appreciated &amp; got their feelings hurt.  Now, please know, that I am saying these things using only my personal observations &amp; reading (listening) intently to the conversations in the Bunker.  I of course am hoping that Hole is okay &amp; carrying on &amp; living her life well &#8211; I know she is, she has to, she is a strong one.  She has a gift when it comes to expressing herself &amp; she does it and will do it, when &amp; where she feels inspired &#8211; sometimes it is not here in the bunker.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know if any of this helps &#8211; this is just my very limited perspective.  FD was extremely intense for many of the folks who attended &amp; some feelings got hurt &#8211; it happens.  Who, what, when &amp; how &#8211; doesn&#8217;t matter so much as we must simply go on now&#8230; even in the face of hurt feelings.<br />
love to you Sherbet, Q</p>
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		By: ajrfd		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2014 12:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m going to take a shot here; I&#039;ve read the posts. I was stalked by Scientology while living and working in Clearwater. To be short, I didn&#039;t own a car and relied on PSTA. One really bad day while waiting for the bus after work I was approached by a group of men in white shirts and black ties; I had no Idea who they were. They each held clipboards with questionaires on them that I could see. They were asking me really weird questions about my sex life and I was very uncomfortable. The bus started loading and these guys were holding me up which meant they were holding the line of passengers up. The bus driver noticed and screamed at these guys to let me board. The guys actually went away and I was then free to board the bus. I thanked the bus driver and he replied, &quot;Don&#039;t ever talk to those people again&quot;. Okay then, right? Well, I moved to St. Petersburg where a Scientology storefront is located across from the bus depot. Not one of the white shirted and black tied men ever approaced me. I had no idea when I lived in Clearwater that is who these guys were that approached me that day at the bus depot, but I was shocked they didn&#039;t approach me in St. Petersburg. I always got weird vibes from the bus stop people and did not want to talk to them. There are also many people dressed similarly, men in ties and women in slacks and white shirts, that parade around Clearwater. I find them freaky.and believe I am very fortunate to not have been pulled into their grasp. Thank you Route 60 bus driver for making them go away, and thank you Jamie for telling your story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m going to take a shot here; I&#8217;ve read the posts. I was stalked by Scientology while living and working in Clearwater. To be short, I didn&#8217;t own a car and relied on PSTA. One really bad day while waiting for the bus after work I was approached by a group of men in white shirts and black ties; I had no Idea who they were. They each held clipboards with questionaires on them that I could see. They were asking me really weird questions about my sex life and I was very uncomfortable. The bus started loading and these guys were holding me up which meant they were holding the line of passengers up. The bus driver noticed and screamed at these guys to let me board. The guys actually went away and I was then free to board the bus. I thanked the bus driver and he replied, &#8220;Don&#8217;t ever talk to those people again&#8221;. Okay then, right? Well, I moved to St. Petersburg where a Scientology storefront is located across from the bus depot. Not one of the white shirted and black tied men ever approaced me. I had no idea when I lived in Clearwater that is who these guys were that approached me that day at the bus depot, but I was shocked they didn&#8217;t approach me in St. Petersburg. I always got weird vibes from the bus stop people and did not want to talk to them. There are also many people dressed similarly, men in ties and women in slacks and white shirts, that parade around Clearwater. I find them freaky.and believe I am very fortunate to not have been pulled into their grasp. Thank you Route 60 bus driver for making them go away, and thank you Jamie for telling your story.</p>
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		By: Lady Squash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lady Squash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2014 05:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-552636&quot;&gt;Barbara Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your kind words Barbara,  I am surprisingly happy in WOGworld.  I&#039;ve been out 3 years and it just gets better and better,  I moved to a small town to get away from the Church&#039;s influence.  I had very little little--not a pot to piss in--as the saying goes. I was 68.  The first 6 months were very tough--sobbing;  screaming into pillows; nightmares--the depression over a life wasted.  My most often repeated phrase was &quot;How could you have been so stupid!!!&quot;  And then I started writing,  I joined a writing group and my life has been falling into place ever since--friends, jobs and even financial help from unexpected places.  I have shared bits of my tale with my writing group and often hear, &quot;When are you going to publish that?  I&#039;ll but it!&quot; I am almost done with my tale.  The writing of it has been very liberating.  I no longer say, &quot;How could you have been so stupid?&quot;    I finally forgave myself.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-552636">Barbara Angel</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words Barbara,  I am surprisingly happy in WOGworld.  I&#8217;ve been out 3 years and it just gets better and better,  I moved to a small town to get away from the Church&#8217;s influence.  I had very little little&#8211;not a pot to piss in&#8211;as the saying goes. I was 68.  The first 6 months were very tough&#8211;sobbing;  screaming into pillows; nightmares&#8211;the depression over a life wasted.  My most often repeated phrase was &#8220;How could you have been so stupid!!!&#8221;  And then I started writing,  I joined a writing group and my life has been falling into place ever since&#8211;friends, jobs and even financial help from unexpected places.  I have shared bits of my tale with my writing group and often hear, &#8220;When are you going to publish that?  I&#8217;ll but it!&#8221; I am almost done with my tale.  The writing of it has been very liberating.  I no longer say, &#8220;How could you have been so stupid?&#8221;    I finally forgave myself.</p>
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		By: Barbara Angel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Barbara Angel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2014 07:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-552628&quot;&gt;Lady Squash&lt;/a&gt;.

Finally Lady, you will find *Real* Friends who will stand by you as *real friends* do. &#039;rondroids&#039; spy and become dobbers, willing to drop you at the first sign that you are using your own brain to do the thinking. I&#039;m just so pleased you will now have adequate support; time to rest your exhausted body, money that you spend on necessities, such as dental care and proper nutrition. Please help us and start Red Xing on Craigslist, if we save one person from what happened to you, then this is a mighty Victory. Kind regards I know you will have a Happy Life when you spend enough time in the *real* world with us evil wogs.  We might be wogs to the rondroids but we actually care for others in a way that rondroids are taught Not to.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-552628">Lady Squash</a>.</p>
<p>Finally Lady, you will find *Real* Friends who will stand by you as *real friends* do. &#8216;rondroids&#8217; spy and become dobbers, willing to drop you at the first sign that you are using your own brain to do the thinking. I&#8217;m just so pleased you will now have adequate support; time to rest your exhausted body, money that you spend on necessities, such as dental care and proper nutrition. Please help us and start Red Xing on Craigslist, if we save one person from what happened to you, then this is a mighty Victory. Kind regards I know you will have a Happy Life when you spend enough time in the *real* world with us evil wogs.  We might be wogs to the rondroids but we actually care for others in a way that rondroids are taught Not to.</p>
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		By: Lady Squash		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lady Squash]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2014 06:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-537248&quot;&gt;Barbara Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Barbara.  I feel very fortunate to have made the friends i have since leaving.  We actually help, really help each other.  Not pretend SCN help.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-1/#comment-537248">Barbara Angel</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Barbara.  I feel very fortunate to have made the friends i have since leaving.  We actually help, really help each other.  Not pretend SCN help.</p>
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		By: mpl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mpl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2014 11:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[EVIL.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>EVIL.</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[OrangySky]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2014 16:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537739&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

You can register a copyright with the US gov before a work is published.  But if this is still what&#039;s on register with the Fed, then it means he still holds the copyright, unless there is an addendum with the transfer info on it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537739">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>You can register a copyright with the US gov before a work is published.  But if this is still what&#8217;s on register with the Fed, then it means he still holds the copyright, unless there is an addendum with the transfer info on it.</p>
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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 21:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537129&quot;&gt;L. Wrong Hubturd&lt;/a&gt;.

Hahahhaha  Very Funny Mr.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/05/10/jamie-dewolf-ive-found-the-last-memoir-of-the-son-of-scientologys-founder/comment-page-2/#comment-537129">L. Wrong Hubturd</a>.</p>
<p>Hahahhaha  Very Funny Mr.</p>
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		By: Amovolare		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2014 11:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ssshhh, dont tell anyone but i seemed to see MB in a pic at flag down....
I&#039;ve been away a couple of days so i may have missed something and 4000 plus comment are quite a number to dig in. 
I&#039; totally happy with that pic as I find all the people are at the right place now.
End of drama?
Ciao]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ssshhh, dont tell anyone but i seemed to see MB in a pic at flag down&#8230;.<br />
I&#8217;ve been away a couple of days so i may have missed something and 4000 plus comment are quite a number to dig in.<br />
I&#8217; totally happy with that pic as I find all the people are at the right place now.<br />
End of drama?<br />
Ciao</p>
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