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		By: Le femme Voltaire		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Le femme Voltaire]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-521319&quot;&gt;Bavarian Rage&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, that would really damage the organization! Lincoln supposedly freed the slaves, but not the wage slaves. One. L. Darcel Jones has been preaching to me about past lives which I do not believe in.that a at all!!! He formerly workeed for a Scientology affiliated company that might be a front. company for the organization. He gave me an offer of employment, but would not say what it involved or the wages, but told me if I accepted , I could. have no other job! Of course, I did not accept his offer, and refuse to do so. I have language skills that are very desireable but not at below minimum wage! Laws should be changef to protect against such exploituve practuces.I do not believe in Scientology or ever want to be associated with it: I do not want to become. a defacto slave! I can not say for sure, but...

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-521319">Bavarian Rage</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, that would really damage the organization! Lincoln supposedly freed the slaves, but not the wage slaves. One. L. Darcel Jones has been preaching to me about past lives which I do not believe in.that a at all!!! He formerly workeed for a Scientology affiliated company that might be a front. company for the organization. He gave me an offer of employment, but would not say what it involved or the wages, but told me if I accepted , I could. have no other job! Of course, I did not accept his offer, and refuse to do so. I have language skills that are very desireable but not at below minimum wage! Laws should be changef to protect against such exploituve practuces.I do not believe in Scientology or ever want to be associated with it: I do not want to become. a defacto slave! I can not say for sure, but&#8230;</p>
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		By: DuckBenway		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2014 20:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little late to this party but here&#039;s more information on Mary Rieser, recently of Narconon Georgia.

This is from a 2011 990 for Narconon Georgia;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little late to this party but here&#8217;s more information on Mary Rieser, recently of Narconon Georgia.</p>
<p>This is from a 2011 990 for Narconon Georgia;</p>
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		By: Disaffected		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disaffected]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522409&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks Cars, I consider you a friend too;)! I planted a seed and now I just have to see if it went in fertile soil.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522409">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks Cars, I consider you a friend too;)! I planted a seed and now I just have to see if it went in fertile soil.</p>
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		By: Disaffected		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disaffected]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 09:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522389&quot;&gt;aquaclara&lt;/a&gt;.

Mrs.Disaffected says: &quot;I love cheesesteaks!&quot;. Thanks again. A tour through the US is definitely something we are going to do somewhere in the future. My spouse (as a never in) is very curious about certain places.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522389">aquaclara</a>.</p>
<p>Mrs.Disaffected says: &#8220;I love cheesesteaks!&#8221;. Thanks again. A tour through the US is definitely something we are going to do somewhere in the future. My spouse (as a never in) is very curious about certain places.</p>
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		By: And I don't rent cars!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And I don't rent cars!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522227&quot;&gt;Disaffected&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for your kind words, Disaffected. 

As you fill in more details about your friends, the more it becomes apparent that this decision of theirs is so huge and overwhelming that it is likely they will postpone making a decision for as long as they can. I can understand that. And sometimes, not making a decision is in fact making a decision - rightly or wrongly. It must be awful for them and must be awful for you to have to stand back and wait quietly in the wings. 

I believe you are right to not push any harder at this point. They are probably still processing the information and the doubts you instilled that day. They might be quietly doing their own research, who knows. They also need to be discussing this with their children, too, as there will be a huge fallout if they decide to leave. 

It leaves me with no words. Even knowing what I know and believe what I believe, I still don&#039;t know what I&#039;d do if I were in their shoes. That&#039;s how hard I imagine this to be for them - especially at this point in their lives.

And it can&#039;t be easy on you to have to wait this way. I will keep you and them (the whole family) in my best wishes daily. You are a pretty special person. I hope you know that about yourself. I could tell by your other comments before that you were, but now hearing how many others you have helped to leave the chnrch and the way you approach and handle them makes me respect you even more. It is difficult to be doing what you do and it takes a great deal of courage, compassion, and personal sacrifice. So please take good care of yourself, too, in this process. 

And if it&#039;s appropriate, keep us apprised of the developments in this difficult situation. I wish there was some way I could help, but I know that&#039;s unrealistic and an impossibility, so the best I can offer is to remind you that I am hear to listen and offer moral support - as are the rest of your friends here in the Bunker.

Good night and see you back at &quot;work&quot; in the Bunker tomorrow. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522227">Disaffected</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words, Disaffected. </p>
<p>As you fill in more details about your friends, the more it becomes apparent that this decision of theirs is so huge and overwhelming that it is likely they will postpone making a decision for as long as they can. I can understand that. And sometimes, not making a decision is in fact making a decision &#8211; rightly or wrongly. It must be awful for them and must be awful for you to have to stand back and wait quietly in the wings. </p>
<p>I believe you are right to not push any harder at this point. They are probably still processing the information and the doubts you instilled that day. They might be quietly doing their own research, who knows. They also need to be discussing this with their children, too, as there will be a huge fallout if they decide to leave. </p>
<p>It leaves me with no words. Even knowing what I know and believe what I believe, I still don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;d do if I were in their shoes. That&#8217;s how hard I imagine this to be for them &#8211; especially at this point in their lives.</p>
<p>And it can&#8217;t be easy on you to have to wait this way. I will keep you and them (the whole family) in my best wishes daily. You are a pretty special person. I hope you know that about yourself. I could tell by your other comments before that you were, but now hearing how many others you have helped to leave the chnrch and the way you approach and handle them makes me respect you even more. It is difficult to be doing what you do and it takes a great deal of courage, compassion, and personal sacrifice. So please take good care of yourself, too, in this process. </p>
<p>And if it&#8217;s appropriate, keep us apprised of the developments in this difficult situation. I wish there was some way I could help, but I know that&#8217;s unrealistic and an impossibility, so the best I can offer is to remind you that I am hear to listen and offer moral support &#8211; as are the rest of your friends here in the Bunker.</p>
<p>Good night and see you back at &#8220;work&#8221; in the Bunker tomorrow. 🙂</p>
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		By: aquaclara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aquaclara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 02:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522219&quot;&gt;Disaffected&lt;/a&gt;.

Nice.  :) 
You know, perhaps, from reading here that we all struggle with a &quot;where to start&quot; conversation with outsiders. Sometimes, we overwhelm people with the Scientology stuff, and then our friends and relatives look at us like we are nuts. 

Yours is so much harder. You&#039;re speaking to a couple you KNOW, and there is once again so much to talk about. Where does one begin? Well, you nailed it. That&#039;s what hit us all so hard. And left us with a sense of guarded optimism that it just might work. 

I hope you do take me up the offer to visit Philly. Bring your important other....we have cheesesteaks, (among other real food), great beverages and a bit of history.  

Praying and keeping my fingers crossed that your friends come back.....and take that huge step.  

Way to go, Disaffected.   Way to go.  ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522219">Disaffected</a>.</p>
<p>Nice.  🙂<br />
You know, perhaps, from reading here that we all struggle with a &#8220;where to start&#8221; conversation with outsiders. Sometimes, we overwhelm people with the Scientology stuff, and then our friends and relatives look at us like we are nuts. </p>
<p>Yours is so much harder. You&#8217;re speaking to a couple you KNOW, and there is once again so much to talk about. Where does one begin? Well, you nailed it. That&#8217;s what hit us all so hard. And left us with a sense of guarded optimism that it just might work. </p>
<p>I hope you do take me up the offer to visit Philly. Bring your important other&#8230;.we have cheesesteaks, (among other real food), great beverages and a bit of history.  </p>
<p>Praying and keeping my fingers crossed that your friends come back&#8230;..and take that huge step.  </p>
<p>Way to go, Disaffected.   Way to go.  </p>
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		By: And I don't rent cars!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And I don't rent cars!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 01:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522283&quot;&gt;Free Minds, Free Hearts&lt;/a&gt;.

I know what you mean. It&#039;s going to be awfully difficult not being able to go to Flag Down in May. I keep hoping that some of will be live streamed, as others have mentioned.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522283">Free Minds, Free Hearts</a>.</p>
<p>I know what you mean. It&#8217;s going to be awfully difficult not being able to go to Flag Down in May. I keep hoping that some of will be live streamed, as others have mentioned.</p>
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		By: Baby		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Baby]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2014 00:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-521825&quot;&gt;Vaquera&lt;/a&gt;.

hahahah Absolutely]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-521825">Vaquera</a>.</p>
<p>hahahah Absolutely</p>
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		By: Free Minds, Free Hearts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Free Minds, Free Hearts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 23:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522121&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

Well I am just so envious of everyone on the Bunker who has met others in person, I would love to do that at our &quot;Bunker Wins&quot; party after the cult goes down for good.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522121">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>Well I am just so envious of everyone on the Bunker who has met others in person, I would love to do that at our &#8220;Bunker Wins&#8221; party after the cult goes down for good.</p>
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		By: Disaffected		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Disaffected]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2014 22:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522237&quot;&gt;scamofscientology&lt;/a&gt;.

I will send you an email over your websites email address. This is the 3rd time I am answering you, Disqus apparently ate up my previous replies to you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/22/the-garcias-take-one-more-shot-at-scientology-before-their-fraud-suit-will-live-or-die/comment-page-1/#comment-522237">scamofscientology</a>.</p>
<p>I will send you an email over your websites email address. This is the 3rd time I am answering you, Disqus apparently ate up my previous replies to you.</p>
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