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	Comments on: Jefferson Hawkins helps us understand Scientology&#8217;s L Rundowns!	</title>
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		By: Fink Jonas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fink Jonas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&#039;The person regains his ability and power to do those things he intends to do and as a result he feels more at cause than ever before.”
how can this be possible, if in scientology you only do things they want you to do weather it is to part with your money or the training that you need to get, and you can not be cause ever, LRH is cause.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;The person regains his ability and power to do those things he intends to do and as a result he feels more at cause than ever before.”<br />
how can this be possible, if in scientology you only do things they want you to do weather it is to part with your money or the training that you need to get, and you can not be cause ever, LRH is cause.</p>
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		By: marky markus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[marky markus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2015 06:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[People keep saying things like there are moments of euphoria in scientology and never explain what causes them..anyone have any idea?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People keep saying things like there are moments of euphoria in scientology and never explain what causes them..anyone have any idea?</p>
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		By: Skip Press		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skip Press]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 19:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-1/#comment-517328&quot;&gt;Jefferson Hawkins&lt;/a&gt;.

Those were all Mary Sue&#039;s revisions of her non-issued Guardian&#039;s Office Bulletin &quot;Reasons Why I Must Kill My Husband for the Greater Good.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-1/#comment-517328">Jefferson Hawkins</a>.</p>
<p>Those were all Mary Sue&#8217;s revisions of her non-issued Guardian&#8217;s Office Bulletin &#8220;Reasons Why I Must Kill My Husband for the Greater Good.&#8221;</p>
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		By: 1subgenius		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1subgenius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 01:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-519489&quot;&gt;Sydjazz&lt;/a&gt;.

Better late than never.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-519489">Sydjazz</a>.</p>
<p>Better late than never.</p>
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		By: Sydjazz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sydjazz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Apr 2014 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517897&quot;&gt;1subgenius&lt;/a&gt;.

Oooh 1:1 makes sense now lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517897">1subgenius</a>.</p>
<p>Oooh 1:1 makes sense now lol</p>
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		By: music8r		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[music8r]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 03:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m grateful to have Jefferson&#039;s comments on the Ls. I did them after &quot;going Clear&quot; and doing KTL/LOC in the 1990s. I recall reading and re-reading the advertised &quot;hype&quot; about them and trying to convince myself this was all true. I was supposed to be an all-powerful, unstoppable being. 

What does an all-powerful, unstoppable being DO??? What would YOU do if you were an all-powerful, unstoppable being?

Seriously, wouldn&#039;t it get boring leaping tall buildings in a single bound? Outrunning a speeding train? Stopping a bullet in mid-air? Even if you could end all the suffering in the world, wouldn&#039;t you just be bored because there was nothing left to do?

Scientologists are taught that a being MUST have a problem to solve in order to be happy. If there are no problems to solve, problems must be created. Therefore, it is a freaking waste of time to be an all-powerful, unstoppable being.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m grateful to have Jefferson&#8217;s comments on the Ls. I did them after &#8220;going Clear&#8221; and doing KTL/LOC in the 1990s. I recall reading and re-reading the advertised &#8220;hype&#8221; about them and trying to convince myself this was all true. I was supposed to be an all-powerful, unstoppable being. </p>
<p>What does an all-powerful, unstoppable being DO??? What would YOU do if you were an all-powerful, unstoppable being?</p>
<p>Seriously, wouldn&#8217;t it get boring leaping tall buildings in a single bound? Outrunning a speeding train? Stopping a bullet in mid-air? Even if you could end all the suffering in the world, wouldn&#8217;t you just be bored because there was nothing left to do?</p>
<p>Scientologists are taught that a being MUST have a problem to solve in order to be happy. If there are no problems to solve, problems must be created. Therefore, it is a freaking waste of time to be an all-powerful, unstoppable being.</p>
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		By: Sandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 01:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517856&quot;&gt;media_lush&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, jeez.  Now I really feel sorry for her.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517856">media_lush</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, jeez.  Now I really feel sorry for her.</p>
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		By: Innoculated		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Innoculated]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2014 01:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-1/#comment-517275&quot;&gt;Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol&lt;/a&gt;.

Chris, I just watched yr new vid. I think it&#039;s terrific, really well written, nicely laid out. Voice is moderate, just the right tempo. This is a great service. Hope it reaches more folks that are still in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-1/#comment-517275">Chris Shelton (Galactic Patrol</a>.</p>
<p>Chris, I just watched yr new vid. I think it&#8217;s terrific, really well written, nicely laid out. Voice is moderate, just the right tempo. This is a great service. Hope it reaches more folks that are still in.</p>
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		By: MeekoDev		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MeekoDev]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thanks Tony and Jeff. I&#039;ve always wanted to know more about the ALS but they seemed to be the poor step child to the OT levels so I never heard much about them. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tony and Jeff. I&#8217;ve always wanted to know more about the ALS but they seemed to be the poor step child to the OT levels so I never heard much about them. </p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517901&quot;&gt;Barbara Angel&lt;/a&gt;.

All Cults &quot;need&quot; enemies...this keeps the flock from actually SEEING how abused they are being. Also, $cientology uses &quot;Speed&quot;: &quot;Do it NOW!&quot; &quot;Make it go Right!&quot; Etc. All, again, used to keep one &quot;so busy you cannot really think&quot;.
 Plus Hubbard put near the bottom of the Know-to-Mystery scale &quot;Thinking&quot; LOL! 

Thank you Tony and Jefferson for this article re the L&#039;s. I observed many people did L-10, and for the most part, came out worse. Many came out WAY worse. Now I get why. I met many of the &quot;original L&#039;s auditors&quot; at a re-union years ago. They all said &quot;The L&#039;s are BS&quot;. Just thought I&#039;d add that--plus they cost an exorbitant amount of $$$
 now IF you&#039;re &quot;in&quot; C of $. Love to ALL :) Tory/Magoo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/04/15/jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-understand-scientologys-l-rundowns/comment-page-2/#comment-517901">Barbara Angel</a>.</p>
<p>All Cults &#8220;need&#8221; enemies&#8230;this keeps the flock from actually SEEING how abused they are being. Also, $cientology uses &#8220;Speed&#8221;: &#8220;Do it NOW!&#8221; &#8220;Make it go Right!&#8221; Etc. All, again, used to keep one &#8220;so busy you cannot really think&#8221;.<br />
 Plus Hubbard put near the bottom of the Know-to-Mystery scale &#8220;Thinking&#8221; LOL! </p>
<p>Thank you Tony and Jefferson for this article re the L&#8217;s. I observed many people did L-10, and for the most part, came out worse. Many came out WAY worse. Now I get why. I met many of the &#8220;original L&#8217;s auditors&#8221; at a re-union years ago. They all said &#8220;The L&#8217;s are BS&#8221;. Just thought I&#8217;d add that&#8211;plus they cost an exorbitant amount of $$$<br />
 now IF you&#8217;re &#8220;in&#8221; C of $. Love to ALL 🙂 Tory/Magoo</p>
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