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	Comments on: VIDEO: Learn the power of Scientology in L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s Science of Survival lectures!	</title>
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		By: Edward Whalley		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Edward Whalley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2014 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501747&quot;&gt;aegerprimo&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, he had a strong case of what I call &quot;innumeracy&quot; when he wrote. Innumerate people simply can&#039;t tell the difference between a billion and a trillion, or any of the other large figures. It&#039;s just the proverbial &quot;many&quot; or &quot;aperion&quot; that some preliterate cultures are supposed to see when confronted with any quantity larger than a dozen or so. 

Mervyn Peake also had this. It doesn&#039;t affect most of his writing, until he has to make up, say a piece of paperwork. All of a sudden, order numbers stretch into something like twenty or thirty figures: you&#039;d have to have been ordering since the known age of the Universe in order to rack up so many. 

Which is somewhat ironic, considering that a good deal of Scientology depends on an overall aura of &quot;things making sense&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501747">aegerprimo</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, he had a strong case of what I call &#8220;innumeracy&#8221; when he wrote. Innumerate people simply can&#8217;t tell the difference between a billion and a trillion, or any of the other large figures. It&#8217;s just the proverbial &#8220;many&#8221; or &#8220;aperion&#8221; that some preliterate cultures are supposed to see when confronted with any quantity larger than a dozen or so. </p>
<p>Mervyn Peake also had this. It doesn&#8217;t affect most of his writing, until he has to make up, say a piece of paperwork. All of a sudden, order numbers stretch into something like twenty or thirty figures: you&#8217;d have to have been ordering since the known age of the Universe in order to rack up so many. </p>
<p>Which is somewhat ironic, considering that a good deal of Scientology depends on an overall aura of &#8220;things making sense&#8221;.</p>
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		By: joan nieman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joan nieman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2014 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501291&quot;&gt;Mooser&lt;/a&gt;.

Good for you Mooser. That&#039;s giving them the old what for!]]></description>
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<p>Good for you Mooser. That&#8217;s giving them the old what for!</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 09:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Science of Survival was so &quot;not theta&quot; , that book made me mad every time I read it, it brought in me upset every time I read it, and I believe that was the goal on that book, it focuses so much on how crappy people are rather on the good side of things, is just negativity all the way thru it, that it made me think I was living in a really really crapy world with really really crapy people, those were the thoughts that book inspired in me. Seems to me that book was intended to degrade human beings in general to create the false necessity that only thru scientology; you and everybody around you could be better only if you practice scientology to improve yourself. the real intention behind that book is to lock you in, &#039;&#039;to seal the deal&quot; per say, to have you sold on the Idea that scientology Is the only way out, no matter how much it will cost you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science of Survival was so &#8220;not theta&#8221; , that book made me mad every time I read it, it brought in me upset every time I read it, and I believe that was the goal on that book, it focuses so much on how crappy people are rather on the good side of things, is just negativity all the way thru it, that it made me think I was living in a really really crapy world with really really crapy people, those were the thoughts that book inspired in me. Seems to me that book was intended to degrade human beings in general to create the false necessity that only thru scientology; you and everybody around you could be better only if you practice scientology to improve yourself. the real intention behind that book is to lock you in, &#8221;to seal the deal&#8221; per say, to have you sold on the Idea that scientology Is the only way out, no matter how much it will cost you.</p>
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		By: Derek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501330&quot;&gt;Maradona is OT X&lt;/a&gt;.

I did&#039;t get it did you send it to dmanunderground@gmail.com]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501330">Maradona is OT X</a>.</p>
<p>I did&#8217;t get it did you send it to <a href="mailto:dmanunderground@gmail.com">dmanunderground@gmail.com</a></p>
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		By: Mary_McConnell		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mary_McConnell]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2014 00:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501890&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for all that information I have seen many of her videos but not the Narconon related ones. Will listen to them tomorrow. She&#039;s been posting on Facebook for months now about these being up. The SP lists have been transcribed and posted on WWP and ESMB for several months now. No one is going to tell her what to do because she does not listen anyway. :) Again, thanks.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501890">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for all that information I have seen many of her videos but not the Narconon related ones. Will listen to them tomorrow. She&#8217;s been posting on Facebook for months now about these being up. The SP lists have been transcribed and posted on WWP and ESMB for several months now. No one is going to tell her what to do because she does not listen anyway. 🙂 Again, thanks.</p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RMycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501408&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

As usual, he was probably tossing word-salad to sound impressive.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501408">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>As usual, he was probably tossing word-salad to sound impressive.</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501209&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

You are probably right, but never say never.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501209">DamOTclese2</a>.</p>
<p>You are probably right, but never say never.</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 08:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501072&quot;&gt;Dancing Cranberry&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you, DC!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501072">Dancing Cranberry</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you, DC!</p>
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		By: And I don't rent cars!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And I don't rent cars!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 04:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501842&quot;&gt;Mary_McConnell&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you for those Paco Suarez links. 

After Marc mentioned him today, I was so intrigued by him and wondered if he was still at Int Base and still working in the HU. I had hoped he was out. But more than that, I hoped Tony could interview him someday soon. What a story he could tell. As Marc said, &quot;This guy could write the most fascinating book ever.&quot; I bet he could!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501842">Mary_McConnell</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you for those Paco Suarez links. </p>
<p>After Marc mentioned him today, I was so intrigued by him and wondered if he was still at Int Base and still working in the HU. I had hoped he was out. But more than that, I hoped Tony could interview him someday soon. What a story he could tell. As Marc said, &#8220;This guy could write the most fascinating book ever.&#8221; I bet he could!</p>
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		By: And I don't rent cars!		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[And I don't rent cars!]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2014 03:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501842&quot;&gt;Mary_McConnell&lt;/a&gt;.

Last week I stumbled on this YouTube channel and I&#039;m quite convinced it is owned by Yuliya Keaton, [aka Lia Kea, aka Juliya Keanova, aka Yuliya (Julia) Muniz, aka Yuliya Maskovtseka (Kea), aka thefiredragon at ESMB] 



I posted these links in the Bunker recently and I wondered if you had seen them. I think the videos about Narconon will of particular interest. Below is part of my OP:


&quot;The videos on this channel seems to be taken by hidden spy cameras at Flag base. If anyone remembers Tony&#039;s two stories about Yuliya, her infiltration of the Sea Org and subsequent capture by OSA, you&#039;ll know why I suspect these were taped and posted recently by her. These were only posted a month ago and if I&#039;m correct about the identity of the channel owner and the source of these videos, I&#039;m afraid they&#039;ll be forced to disappear.  Here&#039;s the link to the YouTube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/channe...

And here are the links to two stories written by Tony last year about the woman who infiltrated the Sea Org at Flagg in 2013 and was caught by OSA. Links to Tony&#039;s original stories: 
http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/... 
http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/...



The videos (although of poor quality) are fascinating in that they reveal some of the secretive inner world of Sea Org training, meetings, working and living conditions, money raised at the Portalnd Ideal Org, and plans and strategies for expanding and funding Narconon worldwide (and their plans for a celebrity Narconon in Ojai, CA, which was Larry Hagman&#039;s estate). 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

Without watching them all again and picking out the ones specific to IAS/Narconon that were presented during a single meeting in May 2013 at Flag, you can pick out the videos that have Narconon in their titles but also listen/watch the ones on either side of those, as some have pretty generic titles such as &quot;another meeting.&quot; Good luck wading through all of them. Be warned that it takes time and patience.

As I said before, I suspect once the church finds that Yuliya has posted these on line, they&#039;ll manage to get these removed from YouTube.The last information I read about Yuliya was that she was lawyered up. This is why I was so surprised to find these posted.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/28/video-learn-the-power-of-scientology-in-l-ron-hubbards-science-of-survival-lectures/comment-page-1/#comment-501842">Mary_McConnell</a>.</p>
<p>Last week I stumbled on this YouTube channel and I&#8217;m quite convinced it is owned by Yuliya Keaton, [aka Lia Kea, aka Juliya Keanova, aka Yuliya (Julia) Muniz, aka Yuliya Maskovtseka (Kea), aka thefiredragon at ESMB] </p>
<p>I posted these links in the Bunker recently and I wondered if you had seen them. I think the videos about Narconon will of particular interest. Below is part of my OP:</p>
<p>&#8220;The videos on this channel seems to be taken by hidden spy cameras at Flag base. If anyone remembers Tony&#8217;s two stories about Yuliya, her infiltration of the Sea Org and subsequent capture by OSA, you&#8217;ll know why I suspect these were taped and posted recently by her. These were only posted a month ago and if I&#8217;m correct about the identity of the channel owner and the source of these videos, I&#8217;m afraid they&#8217;ll be forced to disappear.  Here&#8217;s the link to the YouTube channel:  <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channe" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/channe</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>And here are the links to two stories written by Tony last year about the woman who infiltrated the Sea Org at Flagg in 2013 and was caught by OSA. Links to Tony&#8217;s original stories:<br />
<a href="http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/</a>&#8230;<br />
<a href="http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/" rel="ugc">http://tonyortega.org/2013/06/</a>&#8230;</p>
<p>The videos (although of poor quality) are fascinating in that they reveal some of the secretive inner world of Sea Org training, meetings, working and living conditions, money raised at the Portalnd Ideal Org, and plans and strategies for expanding and funding Narconon worldwide (and their plans for a celebrity Narconon in Ojai, CA, which was Larry Hagman&#8217;s estate). </p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch</a>?&#8230;</p>
<p>Without watching them all again and picking out the ones specific to IAS/Narconon that were presented during a single meeting in May 2013 at Flag, you can pick out the videos that have Narconon in their titles but also listen/watch the ones on either side of those, as some have pretty generic titles such as &#8220;another meeting.&#8221; Good luck wading through all of them. Be warned that it takes time and patience.</p>
<p>As I said before, I suspect once the church finds that Yuliya has posted these on line, they&#8217;ll manage to get these removed from YouTube.The last information I read about Yuliya was that she was lawyered up. This is why I was so surprised to find these posted.&#8221;</p>
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