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	Comments on: French land sale falls apart once town learns Scientologists are involved	</title>
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		By: Buttons72		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Buttons72]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2014 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-498802&quot;&gt;PlainOld Thetan&lt;/a&gt;.

Especially since they do to those buildings what they did to Big Blue in LA.  That was not preservation, it was desecration and bastardization.  I&#039;m in Manhattan and developers are now trying to encase historic churches in concrete while building over and around them.  As commercial-for-profit developers go, so has gone the Co$.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-498802">PlainOld Thetan</a>.</p>
<p>Especially since they do to those buildings what they did to Big Blue in LA.  That was not preservation, it was desecration and bastardization.  I&#8217;m in Manhattan and developers are now trying to encase historic churches in concrete while building over and around them.  As commercial-for-profit developers go, so has gone the Co$.</p>
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		By: PlainOld Thetan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[PlainOld Thetan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2014 09:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-494795&quot;&gt;Buttons72&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t forget that the use of historic buildings, such as the Manor Hotel, the Hollywood Guaranty Building, and others, is PART OF THE CHURCH SCHEME to create &quot;goodwill&quot; and allow the &quot;church&quot; into a neighborhood on the basis of &quot;but we&#039;re only preserving a historic building&quot; argument. Many, many Idle Orgs were shoehorned into &quot;historic&quot; buildings on this very basis. 
I&#039;m kind of with Chris on this: don&#039;t let the &quot;church&quot; use historic buildings and a pseudo-religious status to gain a toehold in your community.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-494795">Buttons72</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget that the use of historic buildings, such as the Manor Hotel, the Hollywood Guaranty Building, and others, is PART OF THE CHURCH SCHEME to create &#8220;goodwill&#8221; and allow the &#8220;church&#8221; into a neighborhood on the basis of &#8220;but we&#8217;re only preserving a historic building&#8221; argument. Many, many Idle Orgs were shoehorned into &#8220;historic&#8221; buildings on this very basis.<br />
I&#8217;m kind of with Chris on this: don&#8217;t let the &#8220;church&#8221; use historic buildings and a pseudo-religious status to gain a toehold in your community.</p>
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		By: Saint		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Saint]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 19:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495100&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

NB: the Transamerica building has been more recently renamed to the Transanonymous building.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495100">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>NB: the Transamerica building has been more recently renamed to the Transanonymous building.</p>
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		By: Jean Boon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean Boon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[After buying the land they buy the castle... We all can easily imagine the publicity video... The newest ideal org in a French castle in the country side...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After buying the land they buy the castle&#8230; We all can easily imagine the publicity video&#8230; The newest ideal org in a French castle in the country side&#8230;</p>
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		By: antibity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[antibity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Scientology takes it Tone 41 further than not allowed simply to be a HUMAN. If you allow it, Scientology convinces you to dispense with humanity altogether. To Hubbard, you’re ‘homo novis’, a different
species entirely. 

Humans, homo sapiens, are reduced by Hubbard to &#039;homo saps’. Organized Scientology intends to deprive you of your sense of human dignity. Human dignity not only accords a basic level of equality, but also accords the respect due human difference. Credit due for this distinction to Anthony Clark Arend of Georgetown University, speaking on the connection between human dignity and terrorism.

Scientology demonizes crowdsourcing. After all, what is the punch line of OTIII?  What is the Primary Error?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scientology takes it Tone 41 further than not allowed simply to be a HUMAN. If you allow it, Scientology convinces you to dispense with humanity altogether. To Hubbard, you’re ‘homo novis’, a different<br />
species entirely. </p>
<p>Humans, homo sapiens, are reduced by Hubbard to &#8216;homo saps’. Organized Scientology intends to deprive you of your sense of human dignity. Human dignity not only accords a basic level of equality, but also accords the respect due human difference. Credit due for this distinction to Anthony Clark Arend of Georgetown University, speaking on the connection between human dignity and terrorism.</p>
<p>Scientology demonizes crowdsourcing. After all, what is the punch line of OTIII?  What is the Primary Error?</p>
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		By: Sejanus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sejanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495118&quot;&gt;SvenBoogie&lt;/a&gt;.

Brainssssssssss...Braa...uh  me mean.....

CLEARRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZ,........CLLLEEAAARRRZZZZZZZ...lol]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495118">SvenBoogie</a>.</p>
<p>Brainssssssssss&#8230;Braa&#8230;uh  me mean&#8230;..</p>
<p>CLEARRRRRRRRZZZZZZZZZZZZ,&#8230;&#8230;..CLLLEEAAARRRZZZZZZZ&#8230;lol</p>
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		By: Sejanus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sejanus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 16:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495259&quot;&gt;Eclipse-girl&lt;/a&gt;.

Migosh...thats a WOMAN?
Yikes!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495259">Eclipse-girl</a>.</p>
<p>Migosh&#8230;thats a WOMAN?<br />
Yikes!</p>
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		By: aquaclara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aquaclara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2014 01:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495134&quot;&gt;Troy MacGyver SP&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, yes, but only because we&#039;re very human.  Jenna is pretty matter-of-fact in her writing style, so it&#039;s when you really think about the events she describes, you cannot help but be disgusted with Scientology, angry at Miscavige for letting this continue, and sad for Jenna for having had such a lousy childhood. 

We know her story is also the story of hundreds of other kids, which is where I lose it even more. 

I recommend her book-try the library or Amazon....in the library, it&#039;s in biographies, so easy to find by last name. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495134">Troy MacGyver SP</a>.</p>
<p>Well, yes, but only because we&#8217;re very human.  Jenna is pretty matter-of-fact in her writing style, so it&#8217;s when you really think about the events she describes, you cannot help but be disgusted with Scientology, angry at Miscavige for letting this continue, and sad for Jenna for having had such a lousy childhood. </p>
<p>We know her story is also the story of hundreds of other kids, which is where I lose it even more. </p>
<p>I recommend her book-try the library or Amazon&#8230;.in the library, it&#8217;s in biographies, so easy to find by last name. </p>
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		By: loulai		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[loulai]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 22:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;But the issue raises an interesting question: should the simple fact that the major players in a property deal are Scientologists be enough to scupper it?&quot;
Yes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But the issue raises an interesting question: should the simple fact that the major players in a property deal are Scientologists be enough to scupper it?&#8221;<br />
Yes.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2014 21:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495037&quot;&gt;aquaclara&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes...in $cientology&#039;s book of &quot;Ceremonies&quot; they have one for I think they call it a &quot;Naming Ceremony&quot; where you pick godparents. What Jennifer Lopez does or does not know..I wouldn&#039;t try to guess. I hope she&#039;s not suckered into this mess, and if so: BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN~!  (A message to any and the FEW who are still &quot;in&quot;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/03/21/french-land-sale-falls-apart-once-town-learns-scientologists-are-involved/comment-page-1/#comment-495037">aquaclara</a>.</p>
<p>Yes&#8230;in $cientology&#8217;s book of &#8220;Ceremonies&#8221; they have one for I think they call it a &#8220;Naming Ceremony&#8221; where you pick godparents. What Jennifer Lopez does or does not know..I wouldn&#8217;t try to guess. I hope she&#8217;s not suckered into this mess, and if so: BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN~!  (A message to any and the FEW who are still &#8220;in&#8221;)</p>
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