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	Comments on: Jon Atack puts it to Scientologists &#8212; did L. Ron Hubbard have the qualities of a leader?	</title>
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		By: Ralph Hunter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 03:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You can tell from this picture she&#039;s a fun loving people person? She&#039;s drunk! Boozy, sweaty , smoking and about to pontificate on some issue. That&#039;s not fun ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can tell from this picture she&#8217;s a fun loving people person? She&#8217;s drunk! Boozy, sweaty , smoking and about to pontificate on some issue. That&#8217;s not fun </p>
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		By: Ralph Hunter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ralph Hunter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2015 01:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-471034&quot;&gt;Sue&lt;/a&gt;.

Sue,  this is a comment on a very very old thread, but I&#039;d say the way you were treaded bY media
 lush  is the same way Jons wife was treated by the assistant. 
 Screamed down and called names. ,basic sci tactics]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-471034">Sue</a>.</p>
<p>Sue,  this is a comment on a very very old thread, but I&#8217;d say the way you were treaded bY media<br />
 lush  is the same way Jons wife was treated by the assistant.<br />
 Screamed down and called names. ,basic sci tactics</p>
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		By: Zana		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zana]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 17:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you, Jon Atak, for your amazing revelation here.  This is so helpful.   

I understand why it took you a few days to work through the craziness of that Sea Org guy screaming at your wife for 10 minutes.  It was a shock to you as well.  You loved her enough to marry her.  The fact that you recovered in 3 days and that you broke away to become Loon Ron Hubtard&#039;s biggest nemesis is huge.  

I was raised by a rage-a holic.  We were all in shock.  I was diagnosed later with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.  My brothers and my mother were all stunned and cowered.  I attracted numerous people afterwards who repeated this pattern.  My brother imploded and died from it. When a perceived authority does this to someone - especially someone as open as a child or an artist - it&#039;s immobilizing to all around.  A total shock, unless you&#039;re a warrior-type where you expect it and can discern, defend and demolish the attacker.  But if someone you think is a Good Daddy and a Protector and whom you trust turns around and demolishes you... It stuns you.   The fact that you recovered so quickly is amazing.  It took me more than 40 years ... And there are still things that I&#039;m de-fusing.  

This is one of the most helpful things I have read on this blog.  He was an alcoholic and his &quot;family&quot; reflects the dynamics of an alcoholic family.  Cowed and fearful and unable to think or originate for themselves.  You put the last piece in the puzzle for me. I never heard about his rage before.  Whew!   It&#039;s a relief to put this last piece in the puzzle.   Thank you for all you have done. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Jon Atak, for your amazing revelation here.  This is so helpful.   </p>
<p>I understand why it took you a few days to work through the craziness of that Sea Org guy screaming at your wife for 10 minutes.  It was a shock to you as well.  You loved her enough to marry her.  The fact that you recovered in 3 days and that you broke away to become Loon Ron Hubtard&#8217;s biggest nemesis is huge.  </p>
<p>I was raised by a rage-a holic.  We were all in shock.  I was diagnosed later with Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome.  My brothers and my mother were all stunned and cowered.  I attracted numerous people afterwards who repeated this pattern.  My brother imploded and died from it. When a perceived authority does this to someone &#8211; especially someone as open as a child or an artist &#8211; it&#8217;s immobilizing to all around.  A total shock, unless you&#8217;re a warrior-type where you expect it and can discern, defend and demolish the attacker.  But if someone you think is a Good Daddy and a Protector and whom you trust turns around and demolishes you&#8230; It stuns you.   The fact that you recovered so quickly is amazing.  It took me more than 40 years &#8230; And there are still things that I&#8217;m de-fusing.  </p>
<p>This is one of the most helpful things I have read on this blog.  He was an alcoholic and his &#8220;family&#8221; reflects the dynamics of an alcoholic family.  Cowed and fearful and unable to think or originate for themselves.  You put the last piece in the puzzle for me. I never heard about his rage before.  Whew!   It&#8217;s a relief to put this last piece in the puzzle.   Thank you for all you have done. </p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-472046</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470757&quot;&gt;And I don&#039;t rent cars!&lt;/a&gt;.

Doreen something ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470757">And I don&#8217;t rent cars!</a>.</p>
<p>Doreen something ?</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470911&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

Purrrrrrfect]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470911">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>Purrrrrrfect</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470965&quot;&gt;Troy MacGyver SP&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, I think I would definnatly get physical like that. I am mellow and not violent but when somebody impares my freedom I get like a hound from hell.

And Cats need meat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470965">Troy MacGyver SP</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, I think I would definnatly get physical like that. I am mellow and not violent but when somebody impares my freedom I get like a hound from hell.</p>
<p>And Cats need meat</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470888&quot;&gt;Troy MacGyver SP&lt;/a&gt;.

You are full of stories, good to see you bounce of other commenst to put a little meat on the bone]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470888">Troy MacGyver SP</a>.</p>
<p>You are full of stories, good to see you bounce of other commenst to put a little meat on the bone</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470643&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

You have a spare kidney ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470643">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>You have a spare kidney 😉</p>
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		By: Cat Daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat Daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 10:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470878&quot;&gt;Troy MacGyver SP&lt;/a&gt;.

L Ron Hubbard (briggin&#039;)

I really don&#039;t know, I &quot;feel&quot; that i am a relatively youngssoul and a Earth spirit. But since you probably ask because of my ürge&quot;to post tidbits and inform you must be leavning to some proffesion.

Or maybe I was a cat]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-470878">Troy MacGyver SP</a>.</p>
<p>L Ron Hubbard (briggin&#8217;)</p>
<p>I really don&#8217;t know, I &#8220;feel&#8221; that i am a relatively youngssoul and a Earth spirit. But since you probably ask because of my ürge&#8221;to post tidbits and inform you must be leavning to some proffesion.</p>
<p>Or maybe I was a cat</p>
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		By: FancyKat		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FancyKat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Feb 2014 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-471994&quot;&gt;FancyKat&lt;/a&gt;.

But it did not excuse the rest of the behavior.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/02/22/jon-atack-puts-it-to-scientologists-did-l-ron-hubbard-have-the-qualities-of-a-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-471994">FancyKat</a>.</p>
<p>But it did not excuse the rest of the behavior.</p>
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