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		By: Richie rodriguez		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-433577&quot;&gt;John Doe&lt;/a&gt;.

Jon doe i know you wrote this a long time ago but im just reading and learning abot taylors path to suicide and its really sad. I have several friends that commited suicide and i still cant believe there gone! I wish i got to meet taylor cause she was probably a awesome person when she wasnt depressed. Shame on her family for not helping there daughter it disgusts me to see a mother not give a sh%+ about her daughter enough to get her real help. Im sorry but f#@k Scientology!!! Evil cult is what i see.  Rip taylor and dont worry cause theres people making sure Scientology gets exposed for what they really are.]]></description>
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<p>Jon doe i know you wrote this a long time ago but im just reading and learning abot taylors path to suicide and its really sad. I have several friends that commited suicide and i still cant believe there gone! I wish i got to meet taylor cause she was probably a awesome person when she wasnt depressed. Shame on her family for not helping there daughter it disgusts me to see a mother not give a sh%+ about her daughter enough to get her real help. Im sorry but f#@k Scientology!!! Evil cult is what i see.  Rip taylor and dont worry cause theres people making sure Scientology gets exposed for what they really are.</p>
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		By: SS		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[SS]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 May 2016 19:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-1423551&quot;&gt;Simon Nickels&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Simon, I&#039;m just now seeing your post since this is an older article and my Disqus notifications are tied to an e-mail account I rarely check.

Sounds like you&#039;ve been through the ringer, my friend..... hang in there.  I&#039;ve never been a Scientologist and come from a nurturing family, so I cannot begin to relate to what you&#039;ve been through, but I can feel some of the pain in your words.  

I&#039;ve often thought that Scientology&#039;s most unfortunate victims were those born into the &quot;church&quot;, and I&#039;ve always been amazed by those (like yourself) who&#039;ve managed to break free after having been indoctrinated with Hubbard&#039;s warped worldview since birth. I think that&#039;s something you should be really proud of.

Life is probably never going to be easy (most people&#039;s aren&#039;t), but hopefully things will get better as you move further from your childhood.  I believe most would tell you a greater sense of confidence and peace comes with age.

I couldn&#039;t agree more with your views on the American family.  And I believe your observations regarding many of the children of Scientologists wanting out are right on...... as I&#039;ve seen it stated repeatedly that the average age in the &quot;church&quot; is going up.  That bodes well for the future - maybe an end to all the bullshit is within sight.

FYI, I really doubt Tory will have had a reason to see your post since this article is so old and you replied to my post.  I too am a fan of her videos.

Take care of yourself, buddy.... best of luck to you in the future!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-1423551">Simon Nickels</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Simon, I&#8217;m just now seeing your post since this is an older article and my Disqus notifications are tied to an e-mail account I rarely check.</p>
<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ve been through the ringer, my friend&#8230;.. hang in there.  I&#8217;ve never been a Scientologist and come from a nurturing family, so I cannot begin to relate to what you&#8217;ve been through, but I can feel some of the pain in your words.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve often thought that Scientology&#8217;s most unfortunate victims were those born into the &#8220;church&#8221;, and I&#8217;ve always been amazed by those (like yourself) who&#8217;ve managed to break free after having been indoctrinated with Hubbard&#8217;s warped worldview since birth. I think that&#8217;s something you should be really proud of.</p>
<p>Life is probably never going to be easy (most people&#8217;s aren&#8217;t), but hopefully things will get better as you move further from your childhood.  I believe most would tell you a greater sense of confidence and peace comes with age.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more with your views on the American family.  And I believe your observations regarding many of the children of Scientologists wanting out are right on&#8230;&#8230; as I&#8217;ve seen it stated repeatedly that the average age in the &#8220;church&#8221; is going up.  That bodes well for the future &#8211; maybe an end to all the bullshit is within sight.</p>
<p>FYI, I really doubt Tory will have had a reason to see your post since this article is so old and you replied to my post.  I too am a fan of her videos.</p>
<p>Take care of yourself, buddy&#8230;. best of luck to you in the future!</p>
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		By: Simon Nickels		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Nickels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 11:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-434221&quot;&gt;Tory Christman&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a long time ago. Hi Tory and SS. And everyone else. I just 
read this story from a recent post on this blog. I didn&#039;t know about it.
 I am from Seattle just north of Portland. This is sad and shocking but 
not out of the norm. My parents neglected us kids and Scientologists 98%
 of the time chose Scientology over their religion. My parents were gone
 15 hours a day and even when home my mom was CSing folders and doing 
Scientology work at home. My dad was part time staff and ran a business 
so was barely present and barely spoke. So it was like he didn&#039;t really 
exist. And when he wasn&#039;t part time staff he was back and forth to FLAG 
all the time doing OT levels. And my Mom as well.

I have dealt 
with mental problems and suicidal type thoughts since I was a child. 
People don&#039;t realize that neglect IS TRAUMA. It is just as much trauma 
as is physical abuse. Neglect can destroy you just like 
physical/emotional/sexual abuse can. I lived what she lived through and 
went through terrible depressions. There is no worse feeling growing up 
in your teens and your parents neglect you and don&#039;t stand behind you 
and support you in your life. It&#039;s a very NO LOVE life. It&#039;s terrible. 
My parents are both very cold people. Sounds like her mother was too. 
Just say you were 13 and you had a bad situation with a friend and you 
felt down about it. They wouldn&#039;t even respond or their response would 
be okay well get it handled in session or whatever. So you have no 
parents or loving parties to turn to.

So this young gorgeous and 
talented woman grew up with a bad parental structure that made her 
depression 10x worse and by the time she was 27 killed herself. I 
guarantee if you asked her when she was in her 20&#039;s if she was shocked 
to be alive and she would say yes. I am 31 years old I was shocked to 
make it to 20. I am 31 and can&#039;t believe it. I was supposed to die as a 
teenager of likely suicide.

The real problem in America is the 
destruction of the American home and American family. Most of us come 
from broken homes and it destroys us. Divorce rate is like 55% and there
 is a lot of domestic abuse. Mental/physical/sexual. And of course 
neglect.

America is a really fucked up country. And all the 
distractions of money, sex, power, addiction. It&#039;s a soul-sucking place 
or it can be. Sadly this seemingly beautiful, young, smart lady took her
 own life. And it&#039;s a common case around Scientology. It&#039;s a war because
 of the disconnection thing. And Scientologists are generally very cold.
 If you had a tootheache when you were 8 years old your parents are 
likely to never take you to a dentist even if you are screaming in pain.
 They will &quot;treat&quot; you with assists and auditing. This can cause major 
trauma for a child. Especially growing up feeling like your parents 
aren&#039;t taking care of you and out for your best interests. They look out
 for the interests of their Church. It&#039;s a really fucked up place. It&#039;s a
 lose lose cult. Those that are in are losers. And those that make it 
out are losers too. Not that definition of loser. Losers in the sense 
that the ones that are in lose their life to a soul sucking cult. And 
those that get out often lose their family. I am a Declared SP and I 
lost my family and my sisters etc. But I always say my family was lost 
when I was 5 when my parents ramped up their involvement in the Church. 
Me getting declared at 30 didn&#039;t destroy my family. My family was on the
 road to destruction and disassociation when I was 5. It was destroyed 
much before I had any say.

Scientology segregates people from 
society. It makes people very neurotic and anti-social. Some of the 
people that get into Scientology if they got actual help a therapist 
would recommend they become more &quot;social&quot;. Build good relationships with
 good friends. Spend more time with family. People that don&#039;t go to 
actual therapy like my parents who were outcasts in high school. Not 
popular. Anti-social. Not well liked. If they got into actual therapy 
and not Scientology a therapist would tell them to build positive 
relationships with friends and family. Not cut them off from your life 
and join a cult. That is very dangerous and now we are in 2016 with a 
bunch of major problems in America. I mean look at addiction in the 
heartland. Heroin and addiction is killing thousands. This a very 
degraded country.

It is not solved by handling the addiction or 
&quot;issues&quot;. It is solved be recovering the American family and getting the
 degradation out of homes. People from good homes tend to turn out 
usually pretty solid. But I would say that is 10% of America. Most of us
 come from some trauma/broken home. Sad but it is the reality.

Tory
 huge fan. Been following you for years through your videos and posts 
etc and love your literary voice and the things you do to stand up for 
people like me and Tayler and everyone else. We need a voice saying that
 this shit is so wrong and this cult needs to be brought down to it&#039;s 
knees and corrected. Having been in the Sea Org we have severed the head
 and they are now squirming. It has gone from a pretty high peak in 2001
 when I was there to almost empty today. So we are winning. In 10 years.
 2025 or so the Church will be a bare bones carcus with vulture eating 
it. Almost nothing.

I don&#039;t know if anyone has noticed but even 
the kids of Scientologists are not picking up the slack. They aren&#039;t 
interested in this bullshit. They want to have a good life. Most of the 
kids of longtime Scientologists that were on staff for 30 years or 
whatever. Their kids don&#039;t want to be on staff. They go, &quot;fuck that like
 $150 bucks a week in doing slave labor with harassment and constant 
monitoring from higher ups....uh no thanks&quot;

So most of these baby 
boomers are 60 plus. Some are passing away and/or retiring and then no 
one there to fill the posts at the Org. Scientology is empty now but 
will be a dead carcus by 2025. It will be less than 5,000 people 
worldwide.

Estimates are about 25,000-40,000 currently. Think 
about that. Basically the amount of Scientologists in the world in 2025 
could fit into a decent size College basketball arena. Like an anthill 
next to Mount Everest. They will be nothing. That will be a good day for
 all mankind. We are moving into the Age of Aquarius and out of the Age 
of Pisces which is ruled by religion. People are leaving religion in 
droves.

We need to be more spiritual and less religious. It is the
 only way we can turn the destructive course of mankind. God bless you 
all.

Simon Nickels]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-434221">Tory Christman</a>.</p>
<p>This is a long time ago. Hi Tory and SS. And everyone else. I just<br />
read this story from a recent post on this blog. I didn&#8217;t know about it.<br />
 I am from Seattle just north of Portland. This is sad and shocking but<br />
not out of the norm. My parents neglected us kids and Scientologists 98%<br />
 of the time chose Scientology over their religion. My parents were gone<br />
 15 hours a day and even when home my mom was CSing folders and doing<br />
Scientology work at home. My dad was part time staff and ran a business<br />
so was barely present and barely spoke. So it was like he didn&#8217;t really<br />
exist. And when he wasn&#8217;t part time staff he was back and forth to FLAG<br />
all the time doing OT levels. And my Mom as well.</p>
<p>I have dealt<br />
with mental problems and suicidal type thoughts since I was a child.<br />
People don&#8217;t realize that neglect IS TRAUMA. It is just as much trauma<br />
as is physical abuse. Neglect can destroy you just like<br />
physical/emotional/sexual abuse can. I lived what she lived through and<br />
went through terrible depressions. There is no worse feeling growing up<br />
in your teens and your parents neglect you and don&#8217;t stand behind you<br />
and support you in your life. It&#8217;s a very NO LOVE life. It&#8217;s terrible.<br />
My parents are both very cold people. Sounds like her mother was too.<br />
Just say you were 13 and you had a bad situation with a friend and you<br />
felt down about it. They wouldn&#8217;t even respond or their response would<br />
be okay well get it handled in session or whatever. So you have no<br />
parents or loving parties to turn to.</p>
<p>So this young gorgeous and<br />
talented woman grew up with a bad parental structure that made her<br />
depression 10x worse and by the time she was 27 killed herself. I<br />
guarantee if you asked her when she was in her 20&#8217;s if she was shocked<br />
to be alive and she would say yes. I am 31 years old I was shocked to<br />
make it to 20. I am 31 and can&#8217;t believe it. I was supposed to die as a<br />
teenager of likely suicide.</p>
<p>The real problem in America is the<br />
destruction of the American home and American family. Most of us come<br />
from broken homes and it destroys us. Divorce rate is like 55% and there<br />
 is a lot of domestic abuse. Mental/physical/sexual. And of course<br />
neglect.</p>
<p>America is a really fucked up country. And all the<br />
distractions of money, sex, power, addiction. It&#8217;s a soul-sucking place<br />
or it can be. Sadly this seemingly beautiful, young, smart lady took her<br />
 own life. And it&#8217;s a common case around Scientology. It&#8217;s a war because<br />
 of the disconnection thing. And Scientologists are generally very cold.<br />
 If you had a tootheache when you were 8 years old your parents are<br />
likely to never take you to a dentist even if you are screaming in pain.<br />
 They will &#8220;treat&#8221; you with assists and auditing. This can cause major<br />
trauma for a child. Especially growing up feeling like your parents<br />
aren&#8217;t taking care of you and out for your best interests. They look out<br />
 for the interests of their Church. It&#8217;s a really fucked up place. It&#8217;s a<br />
 lose lose cult. Those that are in are losers. And those that make it<br />
out are losers too. Not that definition of loser. Losers in the sense<br />
that the ones that are in lose their life to a soul sucking cult. And<br />
those that get out often lose their family. I am a Declared SP and I<br />
lost my family and my sisters etc. But I always say my family was lost<br />
when I was 5 when my parents ramped up their involvement in the Church.<br />
Me getting declared at 30 didn&#8217;t destroy my family. My family was on the<br />
 road to destruction and disassociation when I was 5. It was destroyed<br />
much before I had any say.</p>
<p>Scientology segregates people from<br />
society. It makes people very neurotic and anti-social. Some of the<br />
people that get into Scientology if they got actual help a therapist<br />
would recommend they become more &#8220;social&#8221;. Build good relationships with<br />
 good friends. Spend more time with family. People that don&#8217;t go to<br />
actual therapy like my parents who were outcasts in high school. Not<br />
popular. Anti-social. Not well liked. If they got into actual therapy<br />
and not Scientology a therapist would tell them to build positive<br />
relationships with friends and family. Not cut them off from your life<br />
and join a cult. That is very dangerous and now we are in 2016 with a<br />
bunch of major problems in America. I mean look at addiction in the<br />
heartland. Heroin and addiction is killing thousands. This a very<br />
degraded country.</p>
<p>It is not solved by handling the addiction or<br />
&#8220;issues&#8221;. It is solved be recovering the American family and getting the<br />
 degradation out of homes. People from good homes tend to turn out<br />
usually pretty solid. But I would say that is 10% of America. Most of us<br />
 come from some trauma/broken home. Sad but it is the reality.</p>
<p>Tory<br />
 huge fan. Been following you for years through your videos and posts<br />
etc and love your literary voice and the things you do to stand up for<br />
people like me and Tayler and everyone else. We need a voice saying that<br />
 this shit is so wrong and this cult needs to be brought down to it&#8217;s<br />
knees and corrected. Having been in the Sea Org we have severed the head<br />
 and they are now squirming. It has gone from a pretty high peak in 2001<br />
 when I was there to almost empty today. So we are winning. In 10 years.<br />
 2025 or so the Church will be a bare bones carcus with vulture eating<br />
it. Almost nothing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone has noticed but even<br />
the kids of Scientologists are not picking up the slack. They aren&#8217;t<br />
interested in this bullshit. They want to have a good life. Most of the<br />
kids of longtime Scientologists that were on staff for 30 years or<br />
whatever. Their kids don&#8217;t want to be on staff. They go, &#8220;fuck that like<br />
 $150 bucks a week in doing slave labor with harassment and constant<br />
monitoring from higher ups&#8230;.uh no thanks&#8221;</p>
<p>So most of these baby<br />
boomers are 60 plus. Some are passing away and/or retiring and then no<br />
one there to fill the posts at the Org. Scientology is empty now but<br />
will be a dead carcus by 2025. It will be less than 5,000 people<br />
worldwide.</p>
<p>Estimates are about 25,000-40,000 currently. Think<br />
about that. Basically the amount of Scientologists in the world in 2025<br />
could fit into a decent size College basketball arena. Like an anthill<br />
next to Mount Everest. They will be nothing. That will be a good day for<br />
 all mankind. We are moving into the Age of Aquarius and out of the Age<br />
of Pisces which is ruled by religion. People are leaving religion in<br />
droves.</p>
<p>We need to be more spiritual and less religious. It is the<br />
 only way we can turn the destructive course of mankind. God bless you<br />
all.</p>
<p>Simon Nickels</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Simon Nickels]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2016 10:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-434467&quot;&gt;SS&lt;/a&gt;.

This is a long time ago. Hi Tory and SS. And everyone else. I just read this story from a recent post on this blog. I didn&#039;t know about it. I am from Seattle just north of Portland. This is sad and shocking but not out of the norm. My parents neglected us kids and Scientologists 98% of the time chose Scientology over their religion. My parents were gone 15 hours a day and even when home my mom was CSing folders and doing Scientology work at home. My dad was part time staff and ran a business so was barely present and barely spoke. So it was like he didn&#039;t really exist. And when he wasn&#039;t part time staff he was back and forth to FLAG all the time doing OT levels. And my Mom as well.

I have dealt with mental problems and suicidal type thoughts since I was a child. People don&#039;t realize that neglect IS TRAUMA. It is just as much trauma as is physical abuse. Neglect can destroy you just like physical/emotional/sexual abuse can. I lived what she lived through and went through terrible depressions. There is no worse feeling growing up in your teens and your parents neglect you and don&#039;t stand behind you and support you in your life. It&#039;s a very NO LOVE life. It&#039;s terrible. My parents are both very cold people. Sounds like her mother was too. Just say you were 13 and you had a bad situation with a friend and you felt down about it. They wouldn&#039;t even respond or their response would be okay well get it handled in session or whatever. So you have no parents or loving parties to turn to. 

So this young gorgeous and talented woman grew up with a bad parental structure that made her depression 10x worse and by the time she was 27 killed herself. I guarantee if you asked her when she was in her 20&#039;s if she was shocked to be alive and she would say yes. I am 31 years old I was shocked to make it to 20. I am 31 and can&#039;t believe it. I was supposed to die as a teenager of likely suicide.

The real problem in America is the destruction of the American home and American family. Most of us come from broken homes and it destroys us. Divorce rate is like 55% and there is a lot of domestic abuse. Mental/physical/sexual. And of course neglect.

America is a really fucked up country. And all the distractions of money, sex, power, addiction. It&#039;s a soul-sucking place or it can be. Sadly this seemingly beautiful, young, smart lady took her own life. And it&#039;s a common case around Scientology. It&#039;s a war because of the disconnection thing. And Scientologists are generally very cold. If you had a tootheache when you were 8 years old your parents are likely to never take you to a dentist even if you are screaming in pain. They will &quot;treat&quot; you with assists and auditing. This can cause major trauma for a child. Especially growing up feeling like your parents aren&#039;t taking care of you and out for your best interests. They look out for the interests of their Church. It&#039;s a really fucked up place. It&#039;s a lose lose cult. Those that are in are losers. And those that make it out are losers too. Not that definition of loser. Losers in the sense that the ones that are in lose their life to a soul sucking cult. And those that get out often lose their family. I am a Declared SP and I lost my family and my sisters etc. But I always say my family was lost when I was 5 when my parents ramped up their involvement in the Church. Me getting declared at 30 didn&#039;t destroy my family. My family was on the road to destruction and disassociation when I was 5. It was destroyed much before I had any say.

Scientology segregates people from society. It makes people very neurotic and anti-social. Some of the people that get into Scientology if they got actual help a therapist would recommend they become more &quot;social&quot;. Build good relationships with good friends. Spend more time with family. People that don&#039;t go to actual therapy like my parents who were outcasts in high school. Not popular. Anti-social. Not well liked. If they got into actual therapy and not Scientology a therapist would tell them to build positive relationships with friends and family. Not cut them off from your life and join a cult. That is very dangerous and now we are in 2016 with a bunch of major problems in America. I mean look at addiction in the heartland. Heroin and addiction is killing thousands. This a very degraded country. 

It is not solved by handling the addiction or &quot;issues&quot;. It is solved be recovering the American family and getting the degradation out of homes. People from good homes tend to turn out usually pretty solid. But I would say that is 10% of America. Most of us come from some trauma/broken home. Sad but it is the reality.

Tory huge fan. Been following you for years through your videos and posts etc and love your literary voice and the things you do to stand up for people like me and Tayler and everyone else. We need a voice saying that this shit is so wrong and this cult needs to be brought down to it&#039;s knees and corrected. Having been in the Sea Org we have severed the head and they are now squirming. It has gone from a pretty high peak in 2001 when I was there to almost empty today. So we are winning. In 10 years. 2025 or so the Church will be a bare bones carcus with vulture eating it. Almost nothing.

I don&#039;t know if anyone has noticed but even the kids of Scientologists are not picking up the slack. They aren&#039;t interested in this bullshit. They want to have a good life. Most of the kids of longtime Scientologists that were on staff for 30 years or whatever. Their kids don&#039;t want to be on staff. They go, &quot;fuck that like $150 bucks a week in doing slave labor with harassment and constant monitoring from higher ups....uh no thanks&quot;

So most of these baby boomers are 60 plus. Some are passing away and/or retiring and then no one there to fill the posts at the Org. Scientology is empty now but will be a dead carcus by 2025. It will be less than 5,000 people worldwide.

Estimates are about 25,000-40,000 currently. Think about that. Basically the amount of Scientologists in the world in 2025 could fit into a decent size College basketball arena. Like an anthill next to Mount Everest. They will be nothing. That will be a good day for all mankind. We are moving into the Age of Aquarius and out of the Age of Pisces which is ruled by religion. People are leaving religion in droves.

We need to be more spiritual and less religious. It is the only way we can turn the destructive course of mankind. God bless you all.

Simon Nickels]]></description>
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<p>This is a long time ago. Hi Tory and SS. And everyone else. I just read this story from a recent post on this blog. I didn&#8217;t know about it. I am from Seattle just north of Portland. This is sad and shocking but not out of the norm. My parents neglected us kids and Scientologists 98% of the time chose Scientology over their religion. My parents were gone 15 hours a day and even when home my mom was CSing folders and doing Scientology work at home. My dad was part time staff and ran a business so was barely present and barely spoke. So it was like he didn&#8217;t really exist. And when he wasn&#8217;t part time staff he was back and forth to FLAG all the time doing OT levels. And my Mom as well.</p>
<p>I have dealt with mental problems and suicidal type thoughts since I was a child. People don&#8217;t realize that neglect IS TRAUMA. It is just as much trauma as is physical abuse. Neglect can destroy you just like physical/emotional/sexual abuse can. I lived what she lived through and went through terrible depressions. There is no worse feeling growing up in your teens and your parents neglect you and don&#8217;t stand behind you and support you in your life. It&#8217;s a very NO LOVE life. It&#8217;s terrible. My parents are both very cold people. Sounds like her mother was too. Just say you were 13 and you had a bad situation with a friend and you felt down about it. They wouldn&#8217;t even respond or their response would be okay well get it handled in session or whatever. So you have no parents or loving parties to turn to. </p>
<p>So this young gorgeous and talented woman grew up with a bad parental structure that made her depression 10x worse and by the time she was 27 killed herself. I guarantee if you asked her when she was in her 20&#8217;s if she was shocked to be alive and she would say yes. I am 31 years old I was shocked to make it to 20. I am 31 and can&#8217;t believe it. I was supposed to die as a teenager of likely suicide.</p>
<p>The real problem in America is the destruction of the American home and American family. Most of us come from broken homes and it destroys us. Divorce rate is like 55% and there is a lot of domestic abuse. Mental/physical/sexual. And of course neglect.</p>
<p>America is a really fucked up country. And all the distractions of money, sex, power, addiction. It&#8217;s a soul-sucking place or it can be. Sadly this seemingly beautiful, young, smart lady took her own life. And it&#8217;s a common case around Scientology. It&#8217;s a war because of the disconnection thing. And Scientologists are generally very cold. If you had a tootheache when you were 8 years old your parents are likely to never take you to a dentist even if you are screaming in pain. They will &#8220;treat&#8221; you with assists and auditing. This can cause major trauma for a child. Especially growing up feeling like your parents aren&#8217;t taking care of you and out for your best interests. They look out for the interests of their Church. It&#8217;s a really fucked up place. It&#8217;s a lose lose cult. Those that are in are losers. And those that make it out are losers too. Not that definition of loser. Losers in the sense that the ones that are in lose their life to a soul sucking cult. And those that get out often lose their family. I am a Declared SP and I lost my family and my sisters etc. But I always say my family was lost when I was 5 when my parents ramped up their involvement in the Church. Me getting declared at 30 didn&#8217;t destroy my family. My family was on the road to destruction and disassociation when I was 5. It was destroyed much before I had any say.</p>
<p>Scientology segregates people from society. It makes people very neurotic and anti-social. Some of the people that get into Scientology if they got actual help a therapist would recommend they become more &#8220;social&#8221;. Build good relationships with good friends. Spend more time with family. People that don&#8217;t go to actual therapy like my parents who were outcasts in high school. Not popular. Anti-social. Not well liked. If they got into actual therapy and not Scientology a therapist would tell them to build positive relationships with friends and family. Not cut them off from your life and join a cult. That is very dangerous and now we are in 2016 with a bunch of major problems in America. I mean look at addiction in the heartland. Heroin and addiction is killing thousands. This a very degraded country. </p>
<p>It is not solved by handling the addiction or &#8220;issues&#8221;. It is solved be recovering the American family and getting the degradation out of homes. People from good homes tend to turn out usually pretty solid. But I would say that is 10% of America. Most of us come from some trauma/broken home. Sad but it is the reality.</p>
<p>Tory huge fan. Been following you for years through your videos and posts etc and love your literary voice and the things you do to stand up for people like me and Tayler and everyone else. We need a voice saying that this shit is so wrong and this cult needs to be brought down to it&#8217;s knees and corrected. Having been in the Sea Org we have severed the head and they are now squirming. It has gone from a pretty high peak in 2001 when I was there to almost empty today. So we are winning. In 10 years. 2025 or so the Church will be a bare bones carcus with vulture eating it. Almost nothing.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if anyone has noticed but even the kids of Scientologists are not picking up the slack. They aren&#8217;t interested in this bullshit. They want to have a good life. Most of the kids of longtime Scientologists that were on staff for 30 years or whatever. Their kids don&#8217;t want to be on staff. They go, &#8220;fuck that like $150 bucks a week in doing slave labor with harassment and constant monitoring from higher ups&#8230;.uh no thanks&#8221;</p>
<p>So most of these baby boomers are 60 plus. Some are passing away and/or retiring and then no one there to fill the posts at the Org. Scientology is empty now but will be a dead carcus by 2025. It will be less than 5,000 people worldwide.</p>
<p>Estimates are about 25,000-40,000 currently. Think about that. Basically the amount of Scientologists in the world in 2025 could fit into a decent size College basketball arena. Like an anthill next to Mount Everest. They will be nothing. That will be a good day for all mankind. We are moving into the Age of Aquarius and out of the Age of Pisces which is ruled by religion. People are leaving religion in droves.</p>
<p>We need to be more spiritual and less religious. It is the only way we can turn the destructive course of mankind. God bless you all.</p>
<p>Simon Nickels</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Sorry I cant help Emmy. This thread is a year old and I think the people posting here already posted as much info as they could find on the day her story was reported.]]></description>
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<p>Sorry I cant help Emmy. This thread is a year old and I think the people posting here already posted as much info as they could find on the day her story was reported.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 00:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Are there any other screenshots of what Tayler posted about Scientology on her Facebook? We&#039;re friends on there, but I had deactivated my Facebook before all of this started, so I didn&#039;t see any of the posts. She had deleted them all by the time I logged back on.]]></description>
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<p>Are there any other screenshots of what Tayler posted about Scientology on her Facebook? We&#8217;re friends on there, but I had deactivated my Facebook before all of this started, so I didn&#8217;t see any of the posts. She had deleted them all by the time I logged back on.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 03:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi John, I was also a friend of Tayler&#039;s. I hadn&#039;t talked to her in months at the time of her death. I had texted her a couple times over the course of 2 months, but she didn&#039;t respond at all. The last time we talked was when I wished her happy birthday. I thought that maybe I was being annoying and she needed her space, so I stopped texting her. I deeply regret not telling her how much she meant to me, especially when she really needed to hear it.

I&#039;m still trying to find things out about her almost a year later and if there&#039;s anything else, I would 
really appreciate it if you could talk to me and fill me in. My email is gothemmy92@yahoo.com. I understand if you&#039;re not comfortable with emailing me (based on your other comment about having your own problems with Scientology). Thank you for reading this anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/20/tales-from-scientologys-hollywood-celebrity-centre-tayler-tweed-steven-mango/comment-page-1/#comment-433577">John Doe</a>.</p>
<p>Hi John, I was also a friend of Tayler&#8217;s. I hadn&#8217;t talked to her in months at the time of her death. I had texted her a couple times over the course of 2 months, but she didn&#8217;t respond at all. The last time we talked was when I wished her happy birthday. I thought that maybe I was being annoying and she needed her space, so I stopped texting her. I deeply regret not telling her how much she meant to me, especially when she really needed to hear it.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still trying to find things out about her almost a year later and if there&#8217;s anything else, I would<br />
really appreciate it if you could talk to me and fill me in. My email is <a href="mailto:gothemmy92@yahoo.com">gothemmy92@yahoo.com</a>. I understand if you&#8217;re not comfortable with emailing me (based on your other comment about having your own problems with Scientology). Thank you for reading this anyway.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2014 03:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey Erica, I was a friend of Tayler&#039;s and I&#039;ve been trying to find out details of what was going on before she died. I wasn&#039;t aware of what she&#039;d been going through, otherwise I would&#039;ve helped her in any way that I could. She and I hadn&#039;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. I would really appreciate it if you could talk to me and fill me in. My email is gothemmy92@yahoo.com. Thanks.]]></description>
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<p>Hey Erica, I was a friend of Tayler&#8217;s and I&#8217;ve been trying to find out details of what was going on before she died. I wasn&#8217;t aware of what she&#8217;d been going through, otherwise I would&#8217;ve helped her in any way that I could. She and I hadn&#8217;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. I would really appreciate it if you could talk to me and fill me in. My email is <a href="mailto:gothemmy92@yahoo.com">gothemmy92@yahoo.com</a>. Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2014 00:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hey Erica, I was a friend of Tayler&#039;s and I&#039;ve been trying to find out details of what was going on before she died. I wasn&#039;t aware of what she&#039;d been going through, otherwise I would&#039;ve helped her in any way that I could. She and I hadn&#039;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. If you can tell me anything at all, my email is emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com. I&#039;d really appreciate it. Thanks.]]></description>
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<p>Hey Erica, I was a friend of Tayler&#8217;s and I&#8217;ve been trying to find out details of what was going on before she died. I wasn&#8217;t aware of what she&#8217;d been going through, otherwise I would&#8217;ve helped her in any way that I could. She and I hadn&#8217;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. If you can tell me anything at all, my email is <a href="mailto:emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com">emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com</a>. I&#8217;d really appreciate it. Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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Hi Room, I was a friend of Tayler&#039;s. I was wondering if you knew anything more of what was going on before she died. She and I hadn&#039;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. If you can tell me anything at all, my email is emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com. Thanks.]]></description>
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<p>Hi Room, I was a friend of Tayler&#8217;s. I was wondering if you knew anything more of what was going on before she died. She and I hadn&#8217;t spoken since her birthday, even though I was sending her texts until the end of December. If you can tell me anything at all, my email is <a href="mailto:emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com">emmy.lewis07@yahoo.com</a>. Thanks.</p>
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