I just can’t imagine connecting the stare with euphoria. Just can’t. Falling into the void and letting the only thing someone could see in my eyes be a sort of emptiness because any hint of emotion could result in continued efforts at physically harming me was simply a survival tool. Disassociation probably shouldn’t come so easily, but it did.

LRH told tall tales and came up with ‘Sciencer stuff’ not unlike lots of other quacks, but at some point he seems like what he was really seeking was for people to like him and tell him how wonderful and smart he was. The recreational substances probably didn’t help at all though. Strange how there can be someone who is mostly about an idea, not entirely bad in and of itself, until another person comes along and pushes it off the cliff into a direction that is “very most awful and terrible bad”. Not in the Thelma and Louise sense, where sailing off the cliff is something that is agreed upon together, more like taking your wheelchair bound elderly relative as far as they can be wheeled up a steep incline and then giving them a firm push so they roll down and sail past the lookout point off the edge into a rocky ravine that can’t be accessed by emergency personnel on foot and the nearest rescue helicopter crew is hours and hours away.

This guy have been on a course at NOI

You are very welcome and let me know how it goes. I really do respect you!

Thank you.

I understand what you are saying. I’ve been there. But still I think you are being too hard on yourself. I would say that the behavior the “Church” fosters is aggressive and abusive. But personally I reserve “sociopaths” for the Hitlers, DMs and Ted Bundys of the world. But that’s just me.

You have my respect lady squash, but try Allister Crowley and anyone who does meditation.

“Where did you get the idea that LRH developed that drill? Read critically!” Wow. A little respect, please. You presume I haven’t done any research on this subject and yet I have done a lot. If I have missed something, such as who developed the TRs, I would sincerely like to know. I know Hubbard didn’t develop the Study Tech and know who did. I know that Dianetics is based on Freud and Abreaction which was used by the military after WWII to try and help our soldiers recover from shell shock. I know that the repetitive process used in Scientology were developed by a staff member. You apparently know more than I do, and I would like to be honored to be enlightened.

Just read the NY article by Wright from 2002, just before the SLC Olympics. Great find, I learned several new things, thank you for recommend.

Oh, I think you should! I’ve never been in one, though there was one that opened a few years back near me and I had the chance. i’d love to know what they look like. The pics I’ve seen make them look like luxury 30s hotel lobbies. If you go do let me know…

I would love to see a garment shop! I’ll bet you’re right, that the temple robes and garments have to come from a different source. I’m sure you’re not allowed to buy them unless you have ID and can show you’re a Temple Mormon (i.e. in good graces–must be re-upped every year, as I understand it.)

Both. Yep, reading turns out to be the thing I enjoy most…