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	Comments on: Being and nothingness: And now we move on to Scientology&#8217;s Operating Thetan Level Four!	</title>
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		By: Qbird		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jan 2014 03:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428800&quot;&gt;Espiando&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks.  Dear Espiando.  Still way, way OT Q:  May I pick your brain for a moment?  I trust in your expertise &#038; experience.  The state inspector dude did say that a large portion of our flooring will have to be replaced – in the dish washing area, a prep area &#038; behind the bar (&#039;bout 700 sq feet).  What’s there now is from the 60&#039;s, no shit, and it shows.  We do need to get on it.  We have been gradually replacing the floors in both the front &#038; the back of the house, one area at a time.  I get it - gotta be nonporous &#038; tough yet it’s got to be AFFORDABLE too man.  Got ceramic tile in the kitchen – it’s mostly perfect but was very expensive.  Found some cheap linoleum for a small prep area… can replace it at will with more cheap crap I suppose.  But here&#039;s the deal Espi, this is what I need to know:  Is there ANY commercial flooring for restaurants available that isn&#039;t so fucking SLICK that us workers won&#039;t break our butts on it?  Geez loueeze!  I once hit a little spot of greasy water carrying 2 coffee pots of hot water &#038; went sliding into the wall, connected with a giant cast iron fry pan and was down for a count (no customers around, thankfully, just crew).  But I got burnt, cut &#038; contused all in one fucking slip - those 3 bitches – speed, inertia &#038; gravity… operating on the state approved surface!  Didn’t help me none too much.  Fine!  It cleans up well, for sure, and of course I healed.  Now – point me in a direction if you can please.  I would very much appreciate it &#038; thanks in advance.   ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428800">Espiando</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.  Dear Espiando.  Still way, way OT Q:  May I pick your brain for a moment?  I trust in your expertise &amp; experience.  The state inspector dude did say that a large portion of our flooring will have to be replaced – in the dish washing area, a prep area &amp; behind the bar (&#8217;bout 700 sq feet).  What’s there now is from the 60&#8217;s, no shit, and it shows.  We do need to get on it.  We have been gradually replacing the floors in both the front &amp; the back of the house, one area at a time.  I get it &#8211; gotta be nonporous &amp; tough yet it’s got to be AFFORDABLE too man.  Got ceramic tile in the kitchen – it’s mostly perfect but was very expensive.  Found some cheap linoleum for a small prep area… can replace it at will with more cheap crap I suppose.  But here&#8217;s the deal Espi, this is what I need to know:  Is there ANY commercial flooring for restaurants available that isn&#8217;t so fucking SLICK that us workers won&#8217;t break our butts on it?  Geez loueeze!  I once hit a little spot of greasy water carrying 2 coffee pots of hot water &amp; went sliding into the wall, connected with a giant cast iron fry pan and was down for a count (no customers around, thankfully, just crew).  But I got burnt, cut &amp; contused all in one fucking slip &#8211; those 3 bitches – speed, inertia &amp; gravity… operating on the state approved surface!  Didn’t help me none too much.  Fine!  It cleans up well, for sure, and of course I healed.  Now – point me in a direction if you can please.  I would very much appreciate it &amp; thanks in advance.   </p>
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		By: Snippy_X		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428336&quot;&gt;Racnad&lt;/a&gt;.

Cherenkov radiation is still the result of atomic transitions. Oscillating electric dipoles or changing magnetic fields can produce electromagnetic radiation, but these both involve currents (flowing charged sub-atomic particles.) Hubbard didn&#039;t have any special insight. He simply didn&#039;t know what the hell he was talking about.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428336">Racnad</a>.</p>
<p>Cherenkov radiation is still the result of atomic transitions. Oscillating electric dipoles or changing magnetic fields can produce electromagnetic radiation, but these both involve currents (flowing charged sub-atomic particles.) Hubbard didn&#8217;t have any special insight. He simply didn&#8217;t know what the hell he was talking about.</p>
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		By: truth will set u free		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[truth will set u free]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 21:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-430172&quot;&gt;Remy&lt;/a&gt;.

Why on earth would I want to pursue the tech of 	Scientology? I only want to learn more in the interest of rescuing those who have bought it hook,  line and sinker.  Perhaps you misinterpret my intention here. I merely  want to understand more of the reasons why people have sought the tech. I maintain it is for some positive result. Which explains why I surmise those who have attained so-called &quot;wins&quot; have had to experienced alter ed states of consciousness . The end results must have some motivating factor involved. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-430172">Remy</a>.</p>
<p>Why on earth would I want to pursue the tech of 	Scientology? I only want to learn more in the interest of rescuing those who have bought it hook,  line and sinker.  Perhaps you misinterpret my intention here. I merely  want to understand more of the reasons why people have sought the tech. I maintain it is for some positive result. Which explains why I surmise those who have attained so-called &#8220;wins&#8221; have had to experienced alter ed states of consciousness . The end results must have some motivating factor involved. </p>
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		By: Verve		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 16:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428092&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

Is that Brian O&#039;Halloran on the left?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428092">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>Is that Brian O&#8217;Halloran on the left?</p>
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		By: Remy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Remy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-429849&quot;&gt;truth will set u free&lt;/a&gt;.

If the concepts of Satori and &quot;Clear&quot; have any similarities (I dispute that they do), then the fact remains that the practices and outcomes are quite the opposite.  Satori brings insight and wisdom, while &quot;Clear&quot; makes you bankrupt and insane.  But feel free to pursue Scientology tech and go OTVII - so many success stories there {sarcasm}.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-429849">truth will set u free</a>.</p>
<p>If the concepts of Satori and &#8220;Clear&#8221; have any similarities (I dispute that they do), then the fact remains that the practices and outcomes are quite the opposite.  Satori brings insight and wisdom, while &#8220;Clear&#8221; makes you bankrupt and insane.  But feel free to pursue Scientology tech and go OTVII &#8211; so many success stories there {sarcasm}.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 14:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-430063&quot;&gt;valshifter&lt;/a&gt;.

Indeed...those were among the many cultural imperatives within Scientology that justified all sorts of idiocy...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-430063">valshifter</a>.</p>
<p>Indeed&#8230;those were among the many cultural imperatives within Scientology that justified all sorts of idiocy&#8230;</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 12:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the amount of money spent in scientology is proportional to how much you have been bamboozled.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the amount of money spent in scientology is proportional to how much you have been bamboozled.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428144&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

as long as it is for the greatest good, and to KSW it will be ok, I guess]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428144">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>as long as it is for the greatest good, and to KSW it will be ok, I guess</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428079&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

it is his pompadour from the sixties, his evil smirk, his am better than you attitude, his you don&#039;t have the fickng rank attitude. and coming from a midget is even upsetting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428079">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>it is his pompadour from the sixties, his evil smirk, his am better than you attitude, his you don&#8217;t have the fickng rank attitude. and coming from a midget is even upsetting.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jan 2014 10:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428624&quot;&gt;El Con Blubbard&lt;/a&gt;.

people inside the cult they disconnect from their families, when they should be disconnecting from the cult, that&#039;s how backwards your mind is when inside]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2014/01/14/being-and-nothingness-and-now-we-move-on-to-scientologys-operating-thetan-level-four/comment-page-1/#comment-428624">El Con Blubbard</a>.</p>
<p>people inside the cult they disconnect from their families, when they should be disconnecting from the cult, that&#8217;s how backwards your mind is when inside</p>
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