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	Comments on: Scientology Attacks Garcia Filing; Marc Headley Schools Clearwater&#8217;s Mayor	</title>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-2/#comment-339755</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 00:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[that picture of the Bennets takes me back to the 50&#039;s when men were to perceived to be the man of the house and the wife was just there in the background as a housewife. seems like we are going back in time with this cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that picture of the Bennets takes me back to the 50&#8217;s when men were to perceived to be the man of the house and the wife was just there in the background as a housewife. seems like we are going back in time with this cult.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-339740</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Nov 2013 00:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-334006&quot;&gt;t1kk&lt;/a&gt;.

the church makes it look like the Garcias are suing the clown who hides the little red balls for hiding the balls but that&#039;s what a clown do, they hide the little red ball, and therefore it should be legal to hide things, gosh this is INSANE.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-334006">t1kk</a>.</p>
<p>the church makes it look like the Garcias are suing the clown who hides the little red balls for hiding the balls but that&#8217;s what a clown do, they hide the little red ball, and therefore it should be legal to hide things, gosh this is INSANE.</p>
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		By: joan nieman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joan nieman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-334077&quot;&gt;KJP in Portland&lt;/a&gt;.

Presently, right now, there are children being abused in the Sea Org. Why can&#039;t the government help? Why can&#039;t they do an undercover investigation or something? Ugh!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-334077">KJP in Portland</a>.</p>
<p>Presently, right now, there are children being abused in the Sea Org. Why can&#8217;t the government help? Why can&#8217;t they do an undercover investigation or something? Ugh!!</p>
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		By: joan nieman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joan nieman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 08:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-333974&quot;&gt;ze moo&lt;/a&gt;.

Good eye oBS. What a bastard....what bastards! It makes me sick.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-333974">ze moo</a>.</p>
<p>Good eye oBS. What a bastard&#8230;.what bastards! It makes me sick.</p>
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		By: Tory Christman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tory Christman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 07:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-2/#comment-334637&quot;&gt;MaxSpaceman&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, MaxS :) :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-2/#comment-334637">MaxSpaceman</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, MaxS 🙂 🙂</p>
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		By: Eclipse-girl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eclipse-girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Nov 2013 01:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-335845&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi MK,  PLEASE, PLEASE forgive me.  I cannot make a long story short.


I am going back one day to &quot;bury&quot; this info about  Mr Eclipse.   He is a bit of an introvert. He is wary of &quot;new people.&quot; He is super smart about what he wants to be super smart about.  He can be so dumb about other things.  But at age 58 (59 on Nov 29) he has improved  a lot.


He is not involved in my journey through the rabbit hole of scientology and deserves his protection.  Not that $cientology has any teeth, these days.  or so I hope.


Mr E grew a up a normal, very curious boy in a middle class suburb of Wis. His parents indulged his curiosity. He grew up a skinny, tow haired (white blonde) kid.  He did scouts.  (And if Ash or the twins do not have other activities, at least put them in scouts -- sorry , my parenting advice )


Mother was a cellist, not great, but OK to get into the local concert orch.  She also taught / directed bell choir for her  church.


The boy grew up with music without realizing it.


His sister, and  later Mr E took up violin at age 10 or so, 4th grade , when instruments were taught in public school.  


His Aunt M (sister of mom) wanted to be a violinist.  As a child , Aunt M was the youngest and not favored.  Mr E&#039;s mom was the favored middle child.  Aunt M fought and got a few lessons for violin but it was difficult in the 1930&#039;s /40 s


(Diversion)
Aunt M met Mr F.  Mr F was a keyboardist - organist.  He studied at Lawrence university outside of Appleton in WI.  Uncle F and Aunt M married and stay married for almost 60 yrs until Mr F died.  He played organ at various churches, and taught keyboard eventually as a prof at Akron.  Uncle F and Aunt M had a sharp sense of humor and were / are  beloved by Mr E.


Aunt E eventually got her college degree and ended up teaching music (and instruments) in public school.  She was early in the Suzuki method. (1960s early)  She was a great string teacher.


Aunt M and Mr F had two 2 boys, both older than Mr E.  The oldest son also became a keyboardist and a pilot.  The younger son played violin growing up.


The younger son (K), according to Mr E, was a wonderful violinist.  As a college student K, switched to viola.  He eventually went to South Africa for his first paying post grad job, and then to Germany.  K plays viola for the Munich Opera.
(end Diversion)


Mr E was science / math and music smart.  He saw what happened to his his cousin  (K).  He did not want to become an Ex pat, or necessarily practice 5 hrs a day.


Mr E is an accomplished AMATEUR violinist.  He knows a lot.  He doesn&#039;t  practice anymore.  We did indulge him in a beautiful Francis Kuttner violin a few yrs ago when he was playing with daughter.


Mr E decided at about age 16 - 18, that he did not want to be a musician.  He thought  about being an architect.  In ways , Mr E is a polymath.  He decided he would go into math / science because it was easy for him, and he thought he could make more money at it.  (DESIGN is really, really important to him)


Mr E studied a lot of things.  He ended up as a computer science major.  I met him at that point


We have done very well.  Mr E went to interview for a job in Boston in ?1982, and when he returned the professor he worked offer Mr E the deal of creating a company together.


Enough.  I can&#039;t shut up Mr E when practiced can be extremely good as a classical violinist.  


Being the FUCKING dragon mom I WAS, I encourage early music training and early indulgence in curiosity


(We were fans of Suzuki)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-335845">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>Hi MK,  PLEASE, PLEASE forgive me.  I cannot make a long story short.</p>
<p>I am going back one day to &#8220;bury&#8221; this info about  Mr Eclipse.   He is a bit of an introvert. He is wary of &#8220;new people.&#8221; He is super smart about what he wants to be super smart about.  He can be so dumb about other things.  But at age 58 (59 on Nov 29) he has improved  a lot.</p>
<p>He is not involved in my journey through the rabbit hole of scientology and deserves his protection.  Not that $cientology has any teeth, these days.  or so I hope.</p>
<p>Mr E grew a up a normal, very curious boy in a middle class suburb of Wis. His parents indulged his curiosity. He grew up a skinny, tow haired (white blonde) kid.  He did scouts.  (And if Ash or the twins do not have other activities, at least put them in scouts &#8212; sorry , my parenting advice )</p>
<p>Mother was a cellist, not great, but OK to get into the local concert orch.  She also taught / directed bell choir for her  church.</p>
<p>The boy grew up with music without realizing it.</p>
<p>His sister, and  later Mr E took up violin at age 10 or so, 4th grade , when instruments were taught in public school.  </p>
<p>His Aunt M (sister of mom) wanted to be a violinist.  As a child , Aunt M was the youngest and not favored.  Mr E&#8217;s mom was the favored middle child.  Aunt M fought and got a few lessons for violin but it was difficult in the 1930&#8217;s /40 s</p>
<p>(Diversion)<br />
Aunt M met Mr F.  Mr F was a keyboardist &#8211; organist.  He studied at Lawrence university outside of Appleton in WI.  Uncle F and Aunt M married and stay married for almost 60 yrs until Mr F died.  He played organ at various churches, and taught keyboard eventually as a prof at Akron.  Uncle F and Aunt M had a sharp sense of humor and were / are  beloved by Mr E.</p>
<p>Aunt E eventually got her college degree and ended up teaching music (and instruments) in public school.  She was early in the Suzuki method. (1960s early)  She was a great string teacher.</p>
<p>Aunt M and Mr F had two 2 boys, both older than Mr E.  The oldest son also became a keyboardist and a pilot.  The younger son played violin growing up.</p>
<p>The younger son (K), according to Mr E, was a wonderful violinist.  As a college student K, switched to viola.  He eventually went to South Africa for his first paying post grad job, and then to Germany.  K plays viola for the Munich Opera.<br />
(end Diversion)</p>
<p>Mr E was science / math and music smart.  He saw what happened to his his cousin  (K).  He did not want to become an Ex pat, or necessarily practice 5 hrs a day.</p>
<p>Mr E is an accomplished AMATEUR violinist.  He knows a lot.  He doesn&#8217;t  practice anymore.  We did indulge him in a beautiful Francis Kuttner violin a few yrs ago when he was playing with daughter.</p>
<p>Mr E decided at about age 16 &#8211; 18, that he did not want to be a musician.  He thought  about being an architect.  In ways , Mr E is a polymath.  He decided he would go into math / science because it was easy for him, and he thought he could make more money at it.  (DESIGN is really, really important to him)</p>
<p>Mr E studied a lot of things.  He ended up as a computer science major.  I met him at that point</p>
<p>We have done very well.  Mr E went to interview for a job in Boston in ?1982, and when he returned the professor he worked offer Mr E the deal of creating a company together.</p>
<p>Enough.  I can&#8217;t shut up Mr E when practiced can be extremely good as a classical violinist.  </p>
<p>Being the FUCKING dragon mom I WAS, I encourage early music training and early indulgence in curiosity</p>
<p>(We were fans of Suzuki)</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-333348&quot;&gt;OrangySky&lt;/a&gt;.

NO ONE is allowed to have one. :))]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-1/#comment-333348">OrangySky</a>.</p>
<p>NO ONE is allowed to have one. :))</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[scientology is clearly showing that they can OUTSMART the law, with every attempt to dismiss the charges, because of this because of that, I hope the judge can see thru that, is not about OUTSMARTING one another is about doing what is RIGHT by one another and obviously sciloontology has no intentions of doing that. those mother@#&#038;$^&#038;@$ers]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scientology is clearly showing that they can OUTSMART the law, with every attempt to dismiss the charges, because of this because of that, I hope the judge can see thru that, is not about OUTSMARTING one another is about doing what is RIGHT by one another and obviously sciloontology has no intentions of doing that. those mother@#&amp;$^&amp;@$ers</p>
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		By: Casabeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casabeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 20:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-2/#comment-336612&quot;&gt;Charlotte&lt;/a&gt;.

Ooh yeah, an Aussie too!  I want to learn to make pavlova.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/11/10/scientology-attacks-garcia-filing-marc-headley-schools-clearwaters-mayor/comment-page-2/#comment-336612">Charlotte</a>.</p>
<p>Ooh yeah, an Aussie too!  I want to learn to make pavlova.</p>
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		By: Frankly My Dear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frankly My Dear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Nov 2013 16:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why can&#039;t Clearwater Just Say No?]]></description>
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