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	Comments on: Scientology Moves to Dismiss Garcia Fraud Lawsuit On a Question of Jurisdiction	</title>
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		By: ray		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ray]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great Article. Thanks for the info. Does anyone know where I can find a blank &quot;california entities Form&quot; to fill out?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. Thanks for the info. Does anyone know where I can find a blank &#8220;california entities Form&#8221; to fill out?</p>
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		By: deathtoallpoliticians		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathtoallpoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-319787&quot;&gt;ThetaBara&lt;/a&gt;.

thank you very much for the advice, tb, but my screen name accurately reflects my feelings relative to current 2 party american politics. mr. eckert was just trying to get me going but i have had enough of him. no more replies to such a troll. nope. i am going to just enjoy my posting on this site regardless and keep myself above all that moving forward. thank you once again and cheers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-319787">ThetaBara</a>.</p>
<p>thank you very much for the advice, tb, but my screen name accurately reflects my feelings relative to current 2 party american politics. mr. eckert was just trying to get me going but i have had enough of him. no more replies to such a troll. nope. i am going to just enjoy my posting on this site regardless and keep myself above all that moving forward. thank you once again and cheers!</p>
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		By: ThetaBara		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ThetaBara]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Nov 2013 19:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311123&quot;&gt;deathtoallpoliticians&lt;/a&gt;.

Instead of getting all butthurt, why not make a new sock that doesn&#039;t suggest violence in the name? That&#039;s not cool. If your shit isn&#039;t working, try changing your methods.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311123">deathtoallpoliticians</a>.</p>
<p>Instead of getting all butthurt, why not make a new sock that doesn&#8217;t suggest violence in the name? That&#8217;s not cool. If your shit isn&#8217;t working, try changing your methods.</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312370</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 18:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312086&quot;&gt;deathtoallpoliticians&lt;/a&gt;.

No need, your nature is openly exposed by yourself]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312086">deathtoallpoliticians</a>.</p>
<p>No need, your nature is openly exposed by yourself</p>
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		By: Snippy_X		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-2/#comment-312095</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Snippy_X]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m no lawyer, but isn&#039;t there some kind of protection for the Garcia&#039;s along the lines that all these entities are shell corporations under Miscavige&#039;s control? If this were demonstrated, the home address of the &quot;trustee&quot; should be either irrelevant or further evidence that Scientology is deliberately structured to circumvent the law and perpetrate fraud.

From page 6 of the original complaint:

&lt;blockquote&gt;The key to the organizational structure-- indeed, the undisputed leader - - is David Miscavige, who exerts complete, unequivocal control over Defendants, including control over how funds are collected, utilized, and disbursed, regardless of their purported &quot;independent&quot; corporate structures and boards. The Church of Scientology, at Miscavige&#039;s direction, publicly proclaimed to the St. Pete Times Newspaper through an affidavit submitted by one of his direct subordinates, Sue Wilhere, that, &quot;Mr. Miscavige is Scientology. &quot;

23. At all times material hereto, Defendants acted in concert either as agents or principals of one another, partners, joint venturers, or co-conspirators. &lt;/blockquote&gt;


Is there a way to argue that the Garcias intend to prove this structure is bogus and should be allowed their day in court? It seems the conspiracy aspect of this should come into play somehow.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no lawyer, but isn&#8217;t there some kind of protection for the Garcia&#8217;s along the lines that all these entities are shell corporations under Miscavige&#8217;s control? If this were demonstrated, the home address of the &#8220;trustee&#8221; should be either irrelevant or further evidence that Scientology is deliberately structured to circumvent the law and perpetrate fraud.</p>
<p>From page 6 of the original complaint:</p>
<blockquote><p>The key to the organizational structure&#8211; indeed, the undisputed leader &#8211; &#8211; is David Miscavige, who exerts complete, unequivocal control over Defendants, including control over how funds are collected, utilized, and disbursed, regardless of their purported &#8220;independent&#8221; corporate structures and boards. The Church of Scientology, at Miscavige&#8217;s direction, publicly proclaimed to the St. Pete Times Newspaper through an affidavit submitted by one of his direct subordinates, Sue Wilhere, that, &#8220;Mr. Miscavige is Scientology. &#8221;</p>
<p>23. At all times material hereto, Defendants acted in concert either as agents or principals of one another, partners, joint venturers, or co-conspirators. </p></blockquote>
<p>Is there a way to argue that the Garcias intend to prove this structure is bogus and should be allowed their day in court? It seems the conspiracy aspect of this should come into play somehow.</p>
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		By: deathtoallpoliticians		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathtoallpoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312086&quot;&gt;deathtoallpoliticians&lt;/a&gt;.

and, by the way, put a shirt on in your pic. no one wants to see old man chest. cheers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312086">deathtoallpoliticians</a>.</p>
<p>and, by the way, put a shirt on in your pic. no one wants to see old man chest. cheers!</p>
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		By: deathtoallpoliticians		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathtoallpoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 15:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312017&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

why do you ask, old man eckert? are you going to file a kr on me?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-312017">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>why do you ask, old man eckert? are you going to file a kr on me?</p>
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		By: Robert Eckert		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Robert Eckert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311975&quot;&gt;deathtoallpoliticians&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you get an upstat for the number of replies?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311975">deathtoallpoliticians</a>.</p>
<p>Do you get an upstat for the number of replies?</p>
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		By: deathtoallpoliticians		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[deathtoallpoliticians]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 14:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311243&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

i love your old, grumpy, frumpy mouth rot. tell me, old man eckert, what exactly has your panties in a bunch? did someone knock over your snowman? did someone piss in your corn flakes? did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? either way, cheer up, old man eckert. life is good despite crotchety, stubborn and arrogant people like you. cheers!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-311243">Robert Eckert</a>.</p>
<p>i love your old, grumpy, frumpy mouth rot. tell me, old man eckert, what exactly has your panties in a bunch? did someone knock over your snowman? did someone piss in your corn flakes? did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? either way, cheer up, old man eckert. life is good despite crotchety, stubborn and arrogant people like you. cheers!</p>
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		By: Exterrier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exterrier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Oct 2013 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-310963&quot;&gt;Eugene K&lt;/a&gt;.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz... Boring boring boring.    ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/25/scientology-moves-to-dismiss-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-based-on-jurisdiction/comment-page-1/#comment-310963">Eugene K</a>.</p>
<p>Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&#8230; Boring boring boring.    </p>
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