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		By: Casabeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casabeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Oct 2013 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-301121&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

Very cool story, thanks for sharing with me.
Retirees these days are unaquainted with the rocking chair ;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-301121">DamOTclese2</a>.</p>
<p>Very cool story, thanks for sharing with me.<br />
Retirees these days are unaquainted with the rocking chair ;).</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 06:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298603&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

the church is really looking very dishonest with all this DELAYS, and I hope the judges see thru that......, they have to,.... I know nothing about law and can see thru that , but then again I know how dirty the church can play and the judges might not know that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298603">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>the church is really looking very dishonest with all this DELAYS, and I hope the judges see thru that&#8230;&#8230;, they have to,&#8230;. I know nothing about law and can see thru that , but then again I know how dirty the church can play and the judges might not know that.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-299086&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

there is only four cars in the parking lot to the right.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-299086">DamOTclese2</a>.</p>
<p>there is only four cars in the parking lot to the right.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298717&quot;&gt;Pepsicat&lt;/a&gt;.

plus tourism has withdrawn from that area due to scientology presence everywhere, therefore small businesses and shops are broke and away too, since they have no costumers. the cult sure is doing a lot for the economy in that area. NOT.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298717">Pepsicat</a>.</p>
<p>plus tourism has withdrawn from that area due to scientology presence everywhere, therefore small businesses and shops are broke and away too, since they have no costumers. the cult sure is doing a lot for the economy in that area. NOT.</p>
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		By: valshifter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[valshifter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Oct 2013 01:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-302342&quot;&gt;I Love Robyn Marks&lt;/a&gt;.

I was at celebrity center, they did have real chefs there. they looked so miserable unhappy waiting for orders since there were no people coming in to order expensive meals.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-302342">I Love Robyn Marks</a>.</p>
<p>I was at celebrity center, they did have real chefs there. they looked so miserable unhappy waiting for orders since there were no people coming in to order expensive meals.</p>
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		By: I Love Robyn Marks		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[I Love Robyn Marks]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-302046&quot;&gt;lightblb62&lt;/a&gt;.

What about the Celebrity Center? They boast 4 stars. Is that SO too?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-302046">lightblb62</a>.</p>
<p>What about the Celebrity Center? They boast 4 stars. Is that SO too?</p>
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		By: lightblb62		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[lightblb62]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298849&quot;&gt;I Love Robyn Marks&lt;/a&gt;.

When I was there.. all kitchen staff were SO .  There were  no &quot;chef&#039;s&quot; from outside.. nothing like  that.   They may have now.. they may have recruited some folks from the prof world to become SO and run the kitchens.. but I highly doubt it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-1/#comment-298849">I Love Robyn Marks</a>.</p>
<p>When I was there.. all kitchen staff were SO .  There were  no &#8220;chef&#8217;s&#8221; from outside.. nothing like  that.   They may have now.. they may have recruited some folks from the prof world to become SO and run the kitchens.. but I highly doubt it.</p>
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		By: peakofelephants		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[peakofelephants]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 18:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hm. This newsletter is full of phone numbers that could become new CL &quot;classes&quot;...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm. This newsletter is full of phone numbers that could become new CL &#8220;classes&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		By: AsthmaticDwarf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AsthmaticDwarf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 16:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-2/#comment-301757&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

It just rocks reality -- do you think the whales and celebs know that he has spent maybe $100 million in the past 5 years simply on *legal* ? Would they care? or would it just be part of the business of KSW, on the planet ... It&#039;s hard to really *get it* if one is Never-in.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-2/#comment-301757">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>It just rocks reality &#8212; do you think the whales and celebs know that he has spent maybe $100 million in the past 5 years simply on *legal* ? Would they care? or would it just be part of the business of KSW, on the planet &#8230; It&#8217;s hard to really *get it* if one is Never-in.</p>
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		By: John P.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 14:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-2/#comment-301656&quot;&gt;AsthmaticDwarf&lt;/a&gt;.

It is indeed possible that Miscavige is paying $20 million per year in legal fees, settlements, and PI&#039;s. I&#039;d estimate PI&#039;s as the smallest expense of those three categories however.  That&#039;s pretty appalling: to be spending perhaps 10% of sales, and 1/3 of your profits on legal-related matters, especially when you&#039;re losing badly whenever you get dragged into court.  


Sure, the cult spent a lot in litigation back before Miscavige took over.  I just don&#039;t think it was as much as Bill Franks was saying. He&#039;s got an incentive to brag to members about the legal costs, because of their desire to have the image of doing whatever it took to ensure they could clear the planet.  &quot;We&#039;re not a turn the other cheek kind of religion&quot; as someone (Tommy Davis ???) said.  But that was back in the day when the cult was expanding.  


Suing people when you&#039;re a) shrinking and b) not winning in court seems like a pretty dumb idea.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/20/next-in-the-garcia-fraud-lawsuit-scientology-is-asked-to-explain-its-arbitration-system/comment-page-2/#comment-301656">AsthmaticDwarf</a>.</p>
<p>It is indeed possible that Miscavige is paying $20 million per year in legal fees, settlements, and PI&#8217;s. I&#8217;d estimate PI&#8217;s as the smallest expense of those three categories however.  That&#8217;s pretty appalling: to be spending perhaps 10% of sales, and 1/3 of your profits on legal-related matters, especially when you&#8217;re losing badly whenever you get dragged into court.  </p>
<p>Sure, the cult spent a lot in litigation back before Miscavige took over.  I just don&#8217;t think it was as much as Bill Franks was saying. He&#8217;s got an incentive to brag to members about the legal costs, because of their desire to have the image of doing whatever it took to ensure they could clear the planet.  &#8220;We&#8217;re not a turn the other cheek kind of religion&#8221; as someone (Tommy Davis ???) said.  But that was back in the day when the cult was expanding.  </p>
<p>Suing people when you&#8217;re a) shrinking and b) not winning in court seems like a pretty dumb idea.</p>
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