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	Comments on: Starting Today: Jefferson Hawkins Helps Us Get Our Scientology Ethics In!	</title>
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		By: Jennifer Hodges		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jennifer Hodges]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Dec 2015 05:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Not sure if people here know, but the program mentioned in the video just above, &#039;A Current Affair&#039;, is considered pretty junky here in many quarters (Aus) &#038; they are renowned for not doing proper investigations, so I&#039;m not surprised that lots of pertinent facts were left out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure if people here know, but the program mentioned in the video just above, &#8216;A Current Affair&#8217;, is considered pretty junky here in many quarters (Aus) &amp; they are renowned for not doing proper investigations, so I&#8217;m not surprised that lots of pertinent facts were left out.</p>
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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaxSpaceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 18:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295491&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

I guess it&#039;s I&#039;m a mod, you&#039;re a Punk, and our twains aren&#039;t meeting anywhere in the middle. Oh well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295491">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>I guess it&#8217;s I&#8217;m a mod, you&#8217;re a Punk, and our twains aren&#8217;t meeting anywhere in the middle. Oh well.</p>
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		By: MaxSpaceman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MaxSpaceman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2014 04:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295491&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

Man, I&#039;m really surprised you upvoted Jim on his comment. I&quot;m on the list and easily hear sayable. Maybe you&#039;re not. Maybe Observer is not. Maybe Cars is not. But I am. So if I wanna remain anonymous and pick &quot;Sam&quot; that is worse that Jim rat-finking me out to Scientology? I don&#039;t get where you stand. Obviously, against me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295491">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>Man, I&#8217;m really surprised you upvoted Jim on his comment. I&#8221;m on the list and easily hear sayable. Maybe you&#8217;re not. Maybe Observer is not. Maybe Cars is not. But I am. So if I wanna remain anonymous and pick &#8220;Sam&#8221; that is worse that Jim rat-finking me out to Scientology? I don&#8217;t get where you stand. Obviously, against me.</p>
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		By: Jon Hendry		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-301423</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Hendry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 09:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295464&quot;&gt;Deimos&lt;/a&gt;.

What comes to mind is &quot;night soil&quot;: human excrement collected at night from buckets, cesspools, and privies and sometimes used as manure.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295464">Deimos</a>.</p>
<p>What comes to mind is &#8220;night soil&#8221;: human excrement collected at night from buckets, cesspools, and privies and sometimes used as manure.</p>
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		By: Jon Hendry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Hendry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-294965&quot;&gt;Andrew Robertson&lt;/a&gt;.

Jolly Rogering is more like it, given what is done to the passengers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-294965">Andrew Robertson</a>.</p>
<p>Jolly Rogering is more like it, given what is done to the passengers.</p>
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		By: Guest		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 08:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295299&quot;&gt;Sunny Sands&lt;/a&gt;.

The carts are loaded with stage lighting, it looks like. Especially the leftmost cart.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-295299">Sunny Sands</a>.</p>
<p>The carts are loaded with stage lighting, it looks like. Especially the leftmost cart.</p>
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		By: Casabeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casabeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Oct 2013 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298285&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298285">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>😉</p>
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		By: Natasha Boris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Natasha Boris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298218&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I was never in the SO, but did do my stint on staff. There was no way I was joining the SO, I had too big a mouth! 


Thank you for your kind words. I have moved past most of the regrets, but I have to say, reading anything LRH now in light of what I have discovered on brainwashing, implants and low level electrical current changing cellular structure gives me the heebeejeebees and puts into question for me four decades of experiences. It&#039;s a weird headspace to be in, you know?


But, one day at a time and with each day another layer off. And THAT is a huge feeling of freedom! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298218">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>I was never in the SO, but did do my stint on staff. There was no way I was joining the SO, I had too big a mouth! </p>
<p>Thank you for your kind words. I have moved past most of the regrets, but I have to say, reading anything LRH now in light of what I have discovered on brainwashing, implants and low level electrical current changing cellular structure gives me the heebeejeebees and puts into question for me four decades of experiences. It&#8217;s a weird headspace to be in, you know?</p>
<p>But, one day at a time and with each day another layer off. And THAT is a huge feeling of freedom! 🙂</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 01:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298273&quot;&gt;Casabeca&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, yes. Here and now is always much better than &quot;Now I&#039;m supposed to.&quot; ;)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298273">Casabeca</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, yes. Here and now is always much better than &#8220;Now I&#8217;m supposed to.&#8221; 😉</p>
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		By: Casabeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casabeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 01:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298184&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I am so glad you see the light and I hope the rest will join you eventually!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/17/starting-today-jefferson-hawkins-helps-us-get-our-scientology-ethics-in/comment-page-1/#comment-298184">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>I am so glad you see the light and I hope the rest will join you eventually!</p>
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