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		By: AsthmaticDwarf		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-305760</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290166&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

Very nice, JP. Thank you for your projection of things to come for the cult.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290166">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>Very nice, JP. Thank you for your projection of things to come for the cult.</p>
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		By: L. C. Spencer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[L. C. Spencer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-298115&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

He&#039;s a ruthless sociopath; he&#039;s on top because he learned the most from Hubbard&#039;s own MO. He is entirely without conscience. That makes anyone who does have a conscience vulnerable, because they&#039;re trying to do the right thing and make sacrifices for the greater good, while he spends all his energy sapping the energy of others. He&#039;s a vampire, plain and simple. There was no need for anyone to plant him, no likely candidate to do so, and no one who benefits by his being top dog except him. It just falls apart under his own weight. 


I don&#039;t like getting political here either; the Obama-as foreign-plant conspiracy theory is so outlandish, though, that it doesn&#039;t even rise to the level of politics. Just cartoonish fantasy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-298115">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s a ruthless sociopath; he&#8217;s on top because he learned the most from Hubbard&#8217;s own MO. He is entirely without conscience. That makes anyone who does have a conscience vulnerable, because they&#8217;re trying to do the right thing and make sacrifices for the greater good, while he spends all his energy sapping the energy of others. He&#8217;s a vampire, plain and simple. There was no need for anyone to plant him, no likely candidate to do so, and no one who benefits by his being top dog except him. It just falls apart under his own weight. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t like getting political here either; the Obama-as foreign-plant conspiracy theory is so outlandish, though, that it doesn&#8217;t even rise to the level of politics. Just cartoonish fantasy.</p>
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		By: AsthmaticDwarf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AsthmaticDwarf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Oct 2013 16:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-298095&quot;&gt;indie8million&lt;/a&gt;.

I love your change-of-heart, i8m, back to what you &#038; your humanity started with, before your involvement in Lafayette&#039;s belief system construct. It speaks hope for others, lost, who may yet be found and regain their personal identity, who they really are, to experience once again- heart, love, compassion, love.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-298095">indie8million</a>.</p>
<p>I love your change-of-heart, i8m, back to what you &amp; your humanity started with, before your involvement in Lafayette&#8217;s belief system construct. It speaks hope for others, lost, who may yet be found and regain their personal identity, who they really are, to experience once again- heart, love, compassion, love.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290425&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks a lot, richelieu. I appreciate that y&#039;all are out here too. Nice to have people like you to compare notes with. (or with whom to compare notes, in honor of phronsie&#039;s propah English crusade)  :)

My experience is the same. They wanted to help and do, with the tools they have. They just don&#039;t know that the boat they&#039;re sailing in is rusted through in the bottom and is about to sink. I hope we have enough life-boats when it does. And it will.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290425">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks a lot, richelieu. I appreciate that y&#8217;all are out here too. Nice to have people like you to compare notes with. (or with whom to compare notes, in honor of phronsie&#8217;s propah English crusade)  🙂</p>
<p>My experience is the same. They wanted to help and do, with the tools they have. They just don&#8217;t know that the boat they&#8217;re sailing in is rusted through in the bottom and is about to sink. I hope we have enough life-boats when it does. And it will.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290348&quot;&gt;Mooser&lt;/a&gt;.

Ha. Touche&#039;, Mooser. 

Wish Ron Miscavige, Sr. would step into the ring. He&#039;s got some splainin&#039; to do, Lucy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290348">Mooser</a>.</p>
<p>Ha. Touche&#8217;, Mooser. </p>
<p>Wish Ron Miscavige, Sr. would step into the ring. He&#8217;s got some splainin&#8217; to do, Lucy.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290291&quot;&gt;Orglodyte&lt;/a&gt;.

Not too strong at all. Not to mention the rapes at the hands of the MAAs when you present real criminals, thinking you&#039;ll get their help in pulling these vultures off people and all they do is attack you to get you to shut up about it. &quot;If you&#039;re complaining about them, you must have overts...&quot; they say while the persons hands are around your neck, trying to choke you to death.

Which is easier to confront? The person doing the criminal actions or the person reporting it? Besides, &quot;YOU are the person who is in the org right now and making noise. We&#039;re supposed to keep entheta off the lines and right now, that&#039;s you. I&#039;m not going to call some criminal in here to handle. He&#039;s/she&#039;s not even on our lines.&quot; Whooo boy. Some new, just civilization. Not.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290291">Orglodyte</a>.</p>
<p>Not too strong at all. Not to mention the rapes at the hands of the MAAs when you present real criminals, thinking you&#8217;ll get their help in pulling these vultures off people and all they do is attack you to get you to shut up about it. &#8220;If you&#8217;re complaining about them, you must have overts&#8230;&#8221; they say while the persons hands are around your neck, trying to choke you to death.</p>
<p>Which is easier to confront? The person doing the criminal actions or the person reporting it? Besides, &#8220;YOU are the person who is in the org right now and making noise. We&#8217;re supposed to keep entheta off the lines and right now, that&#8217;s you. I&#8217;m not going to call some criminal in here to handle. He&#8217;s/she&#8217;s not even on our lines.&#8221; Whooo boy. Some new, just civilization. Not.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290256&quot;&gt;L. C. Spencer&lt;/a&gt;.

I only say that because, after the little boy miscavige (16 years old or so) came out of the hospital, his &quot;cognition&quot; was, &quot;You aren&#039;t given power, you assume it.&quot; And assume (and bully and back-bite) he did. 

Plus, in the time that he&#039;s been &quot;King,&quot; it seems that nothing has been able to knock him down, like an invisible big brother has his back, pardon the pun. 



Other things too but I don&#039;t want to get political. Obama. That discussion belongs in another room.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290256">L. C. Spencer</a>.</p>
<p>I only say that because, after the little boy miscavige (16 years old or so) came out of the hospital, his &#8220;cognition&#8221; was, &#8220;You aren&#8217;t given power, you assume it.&#8221; And assume (and bully and back-bite) he did. </p>
<p>Plus, in the time that he&#8217;s been &#8220;King,&#8221; it seems that nothing has been able to knock him down, like an invisible big brother has his back, pardon the pun. </p>
<p>Other things too but I don&#8217;t want to get political. Obama. That discussion belongs in another room.</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290208&quot;&gt;phronsie&lt;/a&gt;.

Lol. Snazzy it is, phronsie. MIscavige needs to go as the first step. Then we see how far the virus has spread. 

Nice play on the word, &quot;plant&quot; BTW. ;)
(Sorry for my tardy response. Just getting used to Dis-cuss)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290208">phronsie</a>.</p>
<p>Lol. Snazzy it is, phronsie. MIscavige needs to go as the first step. Then we see how far the virus has spread. </p>
<p>Nice play on the word, &#8220;plant&#8221; BTW. 😉<br />
(Sorry for my tardy response. Just getting used to Dis-cuss)</p>
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		By: indie8million		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[indie8million]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Oct 2013 23:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290206&quot;&gt;AsthmaticDwarf&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks so much, AD. Means a lot, coming from you.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks so much, AD. Means a lot, coming from you.</p>
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		By: Casabeca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Casabeca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Oct 2013 17:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/14/scientology-payback-revenge-of-the-videographers/comment-page-1/#comment-290934&quot;&gt;Robert Eckert&lt;/a&gt;.

Btw, the pic you linked is funny!
Hope we can keep the gov&#039;t  &quot; on&quot; too.]]></description>
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<p>Btw, the pic you linked is funny!<br />
Hope we can keep the gov&#8217;t  &#8221; on&#8221; too.</p>
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