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	Comments on: LIVE FROM TAMPA: The Garcia v. Scientology Federal Fraud Lawsuit Mini-Trial!	</title>
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		By: Michael Hobson		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael Hobson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-275066&quot;&gt;Jgg2012&lt;/a&gt;.

Forgot to thank you for posting that, so thanks. :)

Listen very carefully, there are no *external* audits and no *external* oversight.

Church of Scientology has a computerized &quot;Finance System&quot; internally with records of all member&#039;s accounts for purposes of tracking book and materials sales, training &#038; auditing donations and auditing hours used. I would be very, very surprised, if there were no electronic records of IAS, Superpower Building or other donations *internally*.  The International banking systems track deposits, withdrawals and transactions between different banks ,as well and Law Enforcement in nearly every nation has access to those records for criminal investigations.

Any records in a computerized system can be obtained by one means or another, if Law Enforcement ever got serious about investigating these issues.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-275066">Jgg2012</a>.</p>
<p>Forgot to thank you for posting that, so thanks. 🙂</p>
<p>Listen very carefully, there are no *external* audits and no *external* oversight.</p>
<p>Church of Scientology has a computerized &#8220;Finance System&#8221; internally with records of all member&#8217;s accounts for purposes of tracking book and materials sales, training &amp; auditing donations and auditing hours used. I would be very, very surprised, if there were no electronic records of IAS, Superpower Building or other donations *internally*.  The International banking systems track deposits, withdrawals and transactions between different banks ,as well and Law Enforcement in nearly every nation has access to those records for criminal investigations.</p>
<p>Any records in a computerized system can be obtained by one means or another, if Law Enforcement ever got serious about investigating these issues.</p>
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		By: Mildred Ratched		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mildred Ratched]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 17:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-279562&quot;&gt;Douglas D. Douglas&lt;/a&gt;.

thank you triple D!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-279562">Douglas D. Douglas</a>.</p>
<p>thank you triple D!</p>
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		By: Douglas D. Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas D. Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Oct 2013 04:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272272&quot;&gt;Mildred Ratched&lt;/a&gt;.

Getting here late to say, You are Correct!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272272">Mildred Ratched</a>.</p>
<p>Getting here late to say, You are Correct!</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2013 13:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-276202&quot;&gt;Eclipse-girl&lt;/a&gt;.

I never thought he did that to keep them OUT! LOL  And I really don&#039;t think he plotted and thought specifically about these words.  Watching some of his briefing course lectures, I always sensed he was just doing one of those rambling thoughts kind of things.  He certainly didn&#039;t have any decent education on which to base those.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-276202">Eclipse-girl</a>.</p>
<p>I never thought he did that to keep them OUT! LOL  And I really don&#8217;t think he plotted and thought specifically about these words.  Watching some of his briefing course lectures, I always sensed he was just doing one of those rambling thoughts kind of things.  He certainly didn&#8217;t have any decent education on which to base those.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2013 12:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272072&quot;&gt;dbloch7986&lt;/a&gt;.

That&#039;s called making a win out of a loss.  Superbly done, my friend!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272072">dbloch7986</a>.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s called making a win out of a loss.  Superbly done, my friend!</p>
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		By: Exterrier		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Exterrier]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Oct 2013 06:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-273496&quot;&gt;Jimmy Threetimes&lt;/a&gt;.

Aw ww... You missed out. I was a Scientologist so long  that I&#039;d already put my wallet on the table out of habit.   :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-273496">Jimmy Threetimes</a>.</p>
<p>Aw ww&#8230; You missed out. I was a Scientologist so long  that I&#8217;d already put my wallet on the table out of habit.   🙂</p>
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		By: Eclipse-girl		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eclipse-girl]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 17:45:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-276053&quot;&gt;Peter&lt;/a&gt;.

L Ron made up words such as &quot;erterbulate&quot;  he also changed the definition of words , like &quot;ethics&quot; .  


$ci-lons like to use their acronym filled jargon as a way to insulate themselves.


I realize that any Group may have their own language, but it is not usually done to keep outsiders out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-276053">Peter</a>.</p>
<p>L Ron made up words such as &#8220;erterbulate&#8221;  he also changed the definition of words , like &#8220;ethics&#8221; .  </p>
<p>$ci-lons like to use their acronym filled jargon as a way to insulate themselves.</p>
<p>I realize that any Group may have their own language, but it is not usually done to keep outsiders out.</p>
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		By: GlibWog		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GlibWog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 16:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-275942&quot;&gt;Glibby&lt;/a&gt;.

Absolutely.. I&#039;m an SP of course I understand... I&#039;ll try to correct people along the way..


BabyGlib]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-1/#comment-275942">Glibby</a>.</p>
<p>Absolutely.. I&#8217;m an SP of course I understand&#8230; I&#8217;ll try to correct people along the way..</p>
<p>BabyGlib</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272314&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

I, too, found myself enjoying his music.  He&#039;s generally so upbeat and he does wonders with emotional music.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-3/#comment-272314">DamOTclese2</a>.</p>
<p>I, too, found myself enjoying his music.  He&#8217;s generally so upbeat and he does wonders with emotional music.</p>
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		By: Peter		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Oct 2013 15:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-273556&quot;&gt;Eclipse-girl&lt;/a&gt;.

If you went to visit a scientific event, you&#039;d probably also get lost in the jargon.  Hang around with sailing folks and you&#039;ll soon be bewildered.  Mechanics talking business?  Armed forces personnel?  No matter where you go, specialized groups end up with their own versions on language.  Just think of how many new words get invented in the world of hip hop and soon become assimilated into the commong language.  Scio is not that different in that respect.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/03/live-from-tampa-the-garcia-v-scientology-federal-fraud-lawsuit-mini-trial/comment-page-6/#comment-273556">Eclipse-girl</a>.</p>
<p>If you went to visit a scientific event, you&#8217;d probably also get lost in the jargon.  Hang around with sailing folks and you&#8217;ll soon be bewildered.  Mechanics talking business?  Armed forces personnel?  No matter where you go, specialized groups end up with their own versions on language.  Just think of how many new words get invented in the world of hip hop and soon become assimilated into the commong language.  Scio is not that different in that respect.</p>
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