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		By: April Walsh		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[April Walsh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Oct 2013 08:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I stop lurking for a week and there&#039;s all this troll drama. The good news is that this blog and its comment section are quite popular. I just wish it was always with the right kind of posters. :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stop lurking for a week and there&#8217;s all this troll drama. The good news is that this blog and its comment section are quite popular. I just wish it was always with the right kind of posters. 🙁</p>
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		By: Anette Iren		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anette Iren]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 11:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266349&quot;&gt;Johnny Tank&lt;/a&gt;.

Awesome!! We will put some book reviews over at Geir&#039;s blog. So feel free to send us yours. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266349">Johnny Tank</a>.</p>
<p>Awesome!! We will put some book reviews over at Geir&#8217;s blog. So feel free to send us yours. 🙂</p>
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		By: Gus_Cox		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gus_Cox]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Oct 2013 03:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-265711&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

I would hope to hell they have the tent air conditioned, which would take care of the humidity problem.  If not... yecch!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-265711">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>I would hope to hell they have the tent air conditioned, which would take care of the humidity problem.  If not&#8230; yecch!</p>
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		By: allioops		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[allioops]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 23:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My Ex is in Fl.    might be something going on this week]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My Ex is in Fl.    might be something going on this week</p>
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		By: Minion Gayle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minion Gayle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266631&quot;&gt;DamOTclese2&lt;/a&gt;.

All I can think is, the scotch must thin his blood (if he has any left at this point) so much it&#039;s unable to clot.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266631">DamOTclese2</a>.</p>
<p>All I can think is, the scotch must thin his blood (if he has any left at this point) so much it&#8217;s unable to clot.</p>
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		By: Minion Gayle		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Minion Gayle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 12:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266880&quot;&gt;L. Wrong Hubturd&lt;/a&gt;.

Bwahahaha!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266880">L. Wrong Hubturd</a>.</p>
<p>Bwahahaha!</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266209&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, since Hallmark and Helen Steiner Rice are my soul gurus, I might be finding that special light in the darkness I&#039;ve been searching for lo these many years. :) 



ALSO I LOVE KITTENS. 



:)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266209">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>Well, since Hallmark and Helen Steiner Rice are my soul gurus, I might be finding that special light in the darkness I&#8217;ve been searching for lo these many years. 🙂 </p>
<p>ALSO I LOVE KITTENS. </p>
<p>🙂</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266205&quot;&gt;Bury_The_Nuts&lt;/a&gt;.

Well . . . I read it. I feel the happiest I&#039;ve ever been. I am now a glassy eyed Hubbard zombie. 



Seriously? This is ever taken seriously?? What the FUCK. God this shit just gets weirder and more incomprehensible to me. 



The best part tho was Hubbard encouraging you to brush your teeth regularly. :) That man&#039;s grill was a seriously stomach turning feature.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-266205">Bury_The_Nuts</a>.</p>
<p>Well . . . I read it. I feel the happiest I&#8217;ve ever been. I am now a glassy eyed Hubbard zombie. </p>
<p>Seriously? This is ever taken seriously?? What the FUCK. God this shit just gets weirder and more incomprehensible to me. </p>
<p>The best part tho was Hubbard encouraging you to brush your teeth regularly. 🙂 That man&#8217;s grill was a seriously stomach turning feature.</p>
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		By: scamofscientology		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[scamofscientology]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-267648&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

I realise you don&#039;t have your model at hand, but I think the European number you provided is too optimistic. 



A few month ago, the German Verfassungsschutz estimated the number of Scilons in Germany to be 4.000, down from 6.000 a decade ago. I pull these numbers from memory and unfortunately, I&#039;d be very hard pressed to dig up the source. I&#039;m fairly confident they are accurate though, since I do clearly remember my surprise about how high these numbers were. After all, the government has been very active there and the relative numbers are still similar to the UK, which historically has had a much closer relationship which the cult. But there&#039;s another argument in favor of this number, which is that they provided a breakdown of the numbers per state. This means they probably made a roll-call to all intelligence agencies at the state level to arrive at that number. So I guess we should go with 4.000 in Germany if we want to stick with conservative.



Italy is big question mark for me. They are relatively popular there, and even got to be named their own continent. I have no numbers at all, but I&#039;d put in 2.000 as a conservative estimate.


Then there&#039;s Hungary (like Italy, relatively popular) and Denmark (Sea Org Base). MarktheHungarian posted significant issues at their Ideal Org last week, so I don&#039;t think we need to go beyond 500 there. In Denmark, 500 (100-200 public/staff and 300-400 Sea Org members) is probably a bit too convervative, but let&#039;s stick with that to arrive at an nice round number.



Then we have the rest of Europe, I&#039;ve been alternating between stating 1.500 and 2.000 while typing this. There&#039;s 250 in my tiny Holland alone and although there are several countries with 100 members or less (Norway, Austria, Ireland) and several with even less (Sweden, Finland), there are dozens of countries with some sort of Scientology presence for which we don&#039;t have precise numbers. Since we are being conservative, let&#039;s stick with 2.000



So my number for Europe (ex UK) adds up to 9.000. I realise that number is overly cautious, so 8.000 or perhaps 7.000 is probably just as appropriate for a conversative number.


If I might suggest a correction to 8.000 for your model, and assuming you correctly remembered you earlier European number at 3.000, it would bring the total back to Mike&#039;s number of 30.000, which give us a nice tri-angulation as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-267648">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>I realise you don&#8217;t have your model at hand, but I think the European number you provided is too optimistic. </p>
<p>A few month ago, the German Verfassungsschutz estimated the number of Scilons in Germany to be 4.000, down from 6.000 a decade ago. I pull these numbers from memory and unfortunately, I&#8217;d be very hard pressed to dig up the source. I&#8217;m fairly confident they are accurate though, since I do clearly remember my surprise about how high these numbers were. After all, the government has been very active there and the relative numbers are still similar to the UK, which historically has had a much closer relationship which the cult. But there&#8217;s another argument in favor of this number, which is that they provided a breakdown of the numbers per state. This means they probably made a roll-call to all intelligence agencies at the state level to arrive at that number. So I guess we should go with 4.000 in Germany if we want to stick with conservative.</p>
<p>Italy is big question mark for me. They are relatively popular there, and even got to be named their own continent. I have no numbers at all, but I&#8217;d put in 2.000 as a conservative estimate.</p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s Hungary (like Italy, relatively popular) and Denmark (Sea Org Base). MarktheHungarian posted significant issues at their Ideal Org last week, so I don&#8217;t think we need to go beyond 500 there. In Denmark, 500 (100-200 public/staff and 300-400 Sea Org members) is probably a bit too convervative, but let&#8217;s stick with that to arrive at an nice round number.</p>
<p>Then we have the rest of Europe, I&#8217;ve been alternating between stating 1.500 and 2.000 while typing this. There&#8217;s 250 in my tiny Holland alone and although there are several countries with 100 members or less (Norway, Austria, Ireland) and several with even less (Sweden, Finland), there are dozens of countries with some sort of Scientology presence for which we don&#8217;t have precise numbers. Since we are being conservative, let&#8217;s stick with 2.000</p>
<p>So my number for Europe (ex UK) adds up to 9.000. I realise that number is overly cautious, so 8.000 or perhaps 7.000 is probably just as appropriate for a conversative number.</p>
<p>If I might suggest a correction to 8.000 for your model, and assuming you correctly remembered you earlier European number at 3.000, it would bring the total back to Mike&#8217;s number of 30.000, which give us a nice tri-angulation as well.</p>
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		By: AsthmaticDwarf		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AsthmaticDwarf]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Oct 2013 09:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-265912&quot;&gt;Ideal Borg Bunkerite&lt;/a&gt;.

In Krustie&#039;s case, it is **not** cruel. It is an IMPLANT SHE NEEDS!! To take off the tons of Body Thetans (spirits/souls of dead aliens from 75 planets in this part of the Gal-AX-y) who are **clustered** and creating all that massive girth she carries around. All that size is **not** Krustie Alley. Her huge massive size is due to the fact that she has missed, in her auditing, more body thetans and clusters than are countable.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/10/01/leaked-a-peek-inside-scientologys-big-tent-as-its-gala-nears/comment-page-1/#comment-265912">Ideal Borg Bunkerite</a>.</p>
<p>In Krustie&#8217;s case, it is **not** cruel. It is an IMPLANT SHE NEEDS!! To take off the tons of Body Thetans (spirits/souls of dead aliens from 75 planets in this part of the Gal-AX-y) who are **clustered** and creating all that massive girth she carries around. All that size is **not** Krustie Alley. Her huge massive size is due to the fact that she has missed, in her auditing, more body thetans and clusters than are countable.</p>
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