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	Comments on: Leah Remini on The Ellen DeGeneres Show: Fairly Tight-Lipped About Scientology	</title>
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		By: Spackle Motion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spackle Motion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Sep 2013 04:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-248589&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

I aim to please, Tony, you know that.  Arguing with you is not my aim.


I appreciate you clarifying this point; I was basing my points on knowledge of others&#039; experiences with NDAs and the SO when I obviously was wrong based on your information.


I suppose having perfect recall of your interviews is a quality I lack and I apologize.  But your asperity always charming as well.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-248589">TonyOrtega</a>.</p>
<p>I aim to please, Tony, you know that.  Arguing with you is not my aim.</p>
<p>I appreciate you clarifying this point; I was basing my points on knowledge of others&#8217; experiences with NDAs and the SO when I obviously was wrong based on your information.</p>
<p>I suppose having perfect recall of your interviews is a quality I lack and I apologize.  But your asperity always charming as well.</p>
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		By: TonyOrtega		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyOrtega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 23:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-247757&quot;&gt;Spackle Motion&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, she was in the Sea Org for a year -- 30 years ago. And if you remember, I interviewed her sister Nicole about that, and she described them telling the Sea Org to fuck off, essentially. Again, I&#039;ll say that through my reporting, I am pretty sure Leah is not being held back by any NDAs. But your orneriness is always charming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-247757">Spackle Motion</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, she was in the Sea Org for a year &#8212; 30 years ago. And if you remember, I interviewed her sister Nicole about that, and she described them telling the Sea Org to fuck off, essentially. Again, I&#8217;ll say that through my reporting, I am pretty sure Leah is not being held back by any NDAs. But your orneriness is always charming.</p>
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		By: Spackle Motion		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Spackle Motion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224173&quot;&gt;TonyOrtega&lt;/a&gt;.

Tony, she was in the Sea Org for awhile where NDAs are part and parcel of being a SO member.  She probably even routed out, where you know those are required.  So I&#039;m not sure why you say that she hasn&#039;t signed any NDAs.]]></description>
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<p>Tony, she was in the Sea Org for awhile where NDAs are part and parcel of being a SO member.  She probably even routed out, where you know those are required.  So I&#8217;m not sure why you say that she hasn&#8217;t signed any NDAs.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-228714&quot;&gt;Doug Parent&lt;/a&gt;.

Your modem, though, may be polarized.  The plug will have one blade larger than the other, which goes into the neutral side.  There are a number of protections that are based on that.  The smaller blade is the &quot;hot side.&quot;


Neutral has virtually the same electrical potential as ground.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-228714">Doug Parent</a>.</p>
<p>Your modem, though, may be polarized.  The plug will have one blade larger than the other, which goes into the neutral side.  There are a number of protections that are based on that.  The smaller blade is the &#8220;hot side.&#8221;</p>
<p>Neutral has virtually the same electrical potential as ground.</p>
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		By: Doug Parent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Parent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224568&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

And the meter charges in a few hours and is then unplugged. My modem does not have a third/seperate grounding pin on the plug and it&#039;s plugged in all the time.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224568">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>And the meter charges in a few hours and is then unplugged. My modem does not have a third/seperate grounding pin on the plug and it&#8217;s plugged in all the time.</p>
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		By: Doug Parent		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Doug Parent]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Sep 2013 15:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224989&quot;&gt;Poison Ivy&lt;/a&gt;.

The E-Meter does not need to be as refined as a lie detector. The refinement (if you will) is that the auditor has a clue what the needle manifestations means and generally has a clue how to deal with it. I don&#039;t expect anyone who has never had any gains in auditing or experience as an auditor to understand or appreciate it thus but that is my take. If other therapies had as highly developed techniques that accompanied (whatever biofeedback deice) they were using then I think we&#039;d be discussing that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224989">Poison Ivy</a>.</p>
<p>The E-Meter does not need to be as refined as a lie detector. The refinement (if you will) is that the auditor has a clue what the needle manifestations means and generally has a clue how to deal with it. I don&#8217;t expect anyone who has never had any gains in auditing or experience as an auditor to understand or appreciate it thus but that is my take. If other therapies had as highly developed techniques that accompanied (whatever biofeedback deice) they were using then I think we&#8217;d be discussing that.</p>
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		By: cdub		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 20:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yes these few words on Ellen&#039;s show are a big deal. People feel like they know her personally through the King of Queens tv show and so she can communicate volumes with just a few words and gestures. Then Ellen is very understanding and the entire viewing public immediately feels like they are Leah&#039;s friends via Ellen&#039;s comment about being her friend too. It&#039;s very sympathetic to a person we feel close to who is experiencing something traumatic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes these few words on Ellen&#8217;s show are a big deal. People feel like they know her personally through the King of Queens tv show and so she can communicate volumes with just a few words and gestures. Then Ellen is very understanding and the entire viewing public immediately feels like they are Leah&#8217;s friends via Ellen&#8217;s comment about being her friend too. It&#8217;s very sympathetic to a person we feel close to who is experiencing something traumatic.</p>
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		By: kickingit101		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kickingit101]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224114&quot;&gt;ThetaBara&lt;/a&gt;.

I don&#039;t know about that, she was talking about dancing and having to have proper posture right before they went to the Scientology topic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224114">ThetaBara</a>.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know about that, she was talking about dancing and having to have proper posture right before they went to the Scientology topic.</p>
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		By: 1984		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[1984]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 02:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224435&quot;&gt;Marc Headley&lt;/a&gt;.

Marc, I find it interesting that many people have similar nightmares.  Given the willingness of the church to abuse the tech (eg, black dianetics) I don&#039;t trust coincidences.

Has anyone inspected their nightmare, and located the trigger point? Upon inspection, is this idea your own, or did someone else put it there?
Might be an interesting exercise worth documenting.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224435">Marc Headley</a>.</p>
<p>Marc, I find it interesting that many people have similar nightmares.  Given the willingness of the church to abuse the tech (eg, black dianetics) I don&#8217;t trust coincidences.</p>
<p>Has anyone inspected their nightmare, and located the trigger point? Upon inspection, is this idea your own, or did someone else put it there?<br />
Might be an interesting exercise worth documenting.</p>
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		By: q-bird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[q-bird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224994&quot;&gt;Poison Ivy&lt;/a&gt;.

Hello PI - flat out, I too am no one to tell anyone what to believe or not.  Agreed.  Theo is so very enthusiastic &#038; happy with his philosophy &#038; he expresses himself as well as can be.  I listen to him &#038; try to understand.  Live &#038; let live I personally believe.  I happened to &#039;see&#039; Rinder FIRST as a spokesman for CO$ - and he was so good at it &#038; I &#039;liked&#039; him even though I was already beginning to truly hate this criminal organization - Oh so smooth &#038; slick with his earnest lies... he&#039;s cute, gota a nice Aussie accent, he seems sincere.  THEN I &#039;see&#039; him saying, &quot;Oh I was lying then, but now I&#039;m not.&quot;  Well alrighty then: yes laser sharp he is, but I will never trust him &#038; what he says.  I do like his writings at his blog, I go over there ONLY when directed by trustworthy bunkerites however.  Yes stunning to me too, his love of Hubbard, after all he has been through and continues to go through.


dumbfounding to me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/09/09/leah-remini-on-the-ellen-degeneres-show-fairly-tight-lipped-about-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-224994">Poison Ivy</a>.</p>
<p>Hello PI &#8211; flat out, I too am no one to tell anyone what to believe or not.  Agreed.  Theo is so very enthusiastic &amp; happy with his philosophy &amp; he expresses himself as well as can be.  I listen to him &amp; try to understand.  Live &amp; let live I personally believe.  I happened to &#8216;see&#8217; Rinder FIRST as a spokesman for CO$ &#8211; and he was so good at it &amp; I &#8216;liked&#8217; him even though I was already beginning to truly hate this criminal organization &#8211; Oh so smooth &amp; slick with his earnest lies&#8230; he&#8217;s cute, gota a nice Aussie accent, he seems sincere.  THEN I &#8216;see&#8217; him saying, &#8220;Oh I was lying then, but now I&#8217;m not.&#8221;  Well alrighty then: yes laser sharp he is, but I will never trust him &amp; what he says.  I do like his writings at his blog, I go over there ONLY when directed by trustworthy bunkerites however.  Yes stunning to me too, his love of Hubbard, after all he has been through and continues to go through.</p>
<p>dumbfounding to me.</p>
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