I’m glad to see you have high standards. I’m high at the moment….5280ft high in Denver.

Bergman, as my impression in Sweden was in the early 70s, kind of a prophet without (or little) honor in his own country.

The story I heard was was that his attitude towards the church first started to change when, as a boy, he happened into the church and saw his father and the organist getting it on.

Nykvist not only talked the talk, but he walked the walk. The students were simply in awe of him, and it wasn’t just because of his reputation. He took time to teach while he was talking about his experiences. I seem to remember that he talked about wanting to shoot (or having shot) in Africa, where his parents had been missionaries and he spent time as a young boy.

I love the quotes they have from him in IMDB. “Today we make everything so complicated. The lighting, the camers, the acting. It has taken me thirty years to arrive at simplicity.”

“Light is with you – you do not have to feel you are alone.”

O.K., but I’m well acquainted with dogs that large (in size, Great Danes, in weight, Great Pyrenees and St. Bernards). That was shot with a wide angle lens, which makes close objects appear much larger (the dog) and objects further away seem much smaller (the woman, who is also probably small in stature).

At the shoulder, a Great Dane, the tallest dog, is at most, a record of 44″ at the shoulder, and when they stretch out on their hind legs, their head is close to the 6′ level, I can attest, as I’ve looked up to them when they had their paws on my shoulders.

Note, the dog and woman do not appear side by side.

I love Being there and Bergman as well (not a Swede thought).

I met Nykvist in Western Colorado in the late 80s totally by chance; He was very nice, self effacing and polite…
A great talent..

Pit bulls and russian convicts.

That dog stands six feet tall on it’s hind legs and weighs 200 lbs

Actually, I was wondering what the sort of programmed, “very well, thank you,” answer might be, I realize the answer is not actually one that matters as an answer, per se. Really, just a curiosity, not very important.

But love the discussion my inquiry got rolling! The discussion is actually of far more import than my silly query. lol

What I meant is how long does it take people to get to Grades 3 and 4?

The way i read through material, the idea of shouting at the ashtray is to get you to used to shouting to get things “done right.”

I claim that effective management (NOT SO crap) is getting people involved to want want the same outcome. It is not shouting at them for results. You make a request or delegate a job and the other person understands why it needs to be done.

By shouting at ashtrays, you learn the SO / DM style of management which appears to be shouting / humiliation / physical beating.

I draw the line at Keith Richards..