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	Comments on: PZ Myers Helps Us Plunder the Riches of L. Ron Hubbard&#8217;s Book of Scientology Evolution!	</title>
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		By: Kaarli Makela		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaarli Makela]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2017 04:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All those trillions Hubbard wrote down on his deathbed?  It wasn&#039;t years of the whole track ... it was how much money he thought he deserved for flim-flamming.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All those trillions Hubbard wrote down on his deathbed?  It wasn&#8217;t years of the whole track &#8230; it was how much money he thought he deserved for flim-flamming.</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 19:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1405815&quot;&gt;daisy&lt;/a&gt;.

Chomp.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1405815">daisy</a>.</p>
<p>Chomp.</p>
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		By: daisy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[daisy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2016 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-975965&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.

Bite his ass MB,]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-975965">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Bite his ass MB,</p>
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		By: Theo Sismanides		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404865</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo Sismanides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404777&quot;&gt;Xenu is my Homeboy&lt;/a&gt;.

No one talks about delusion. There can be knowledge above seeing as seeing is not the only knowledge there is. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404777">Xenu is my Homeboy</a>.</p>
<p>No one talks about delusion. There can be knowledge above seeing as seeing is not the only knowledge there is. </p>
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		By: Xenu is my Homeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenu is my Homeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 22:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404745&quot;&gt;Theo Sismanides&lt;/a&gt;.

&lt;blockquote&gt;For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring
&lt;/blockquote&gt; - Carl Sagan]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404745">Theo Sismanides</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>For me, it is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring
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<p> &#8211; Carl Sagan</p>
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		By: Theo Sismanides		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Theo Sismanides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 22:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404203&quot;&gt;Xenu is my Homeboy&lt;/a&gt;.

If you just want evidence and wanna know by seeing that&#039;s your problem. Try to get out of this seeing is believing. Too bad people have lost their awareness. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-1404203">Xenu is my Homeboy</a>.</p>
<p>If you just want evidence and wanna know by seeing that&#8217;s your problem. Try to get out of this seeing is believing. Too bad people have lost their awareness. </p>
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		By: Xenu is my Homeboy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Xenu is my Homeboy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 18:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-878414&quot;&gt;Theo Sismanides&lt;/a&gt;.

Show me a f***ing clear. Show me the peer reviewed articles in well respected journals. Oh, that&#039;s right, there aren&#039;t any. &quot;Personal experience&quot; is akin to anecdotes. Scientology and Dianetics has as much scientific merit as homeopathy and water dowsing I.e. diddly squat.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-878414">Theo Sismanides</a>.</p>
<p>Show me a f***ing clear. Show me the peer reviewed articles in well respected journals. Oh, that&#8217;s right, there aren&#8217;t any. &#8220;Personal experience&#8221; is akin to anecdotes. Scientology and Dianetics has as much scientific merit as homeopathy and water dowsing I.e. diddly squat.</p>
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		By: Dave Reams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Reams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2016 14:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;The hole.  There was no hole.  I don&#039;t know what is was ... about 3000000 BC some madmen were wandering the desert out there by Palm Springs and came across pieces of our sex and so forth.  The woman with the hole was shown to be every woman because the Morongo* indians were in the habit of screwifying&quot;

* Actual name of Native American tribe around Hemet California !!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The hole.  There was no hole.  I don&#8217;t know what is was &#8230; about 3000000 BC some madmen were wandering the desert out there by Palm Springs and came across pieces of our sex and so forth.  The woman with the hole was shown to be every woman because the Morongo* indians were in the habit of screwifying&#8221;</p>
<p>* Actual name of Native American tribe around Hemet California !!!</p>
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		By: Mockingbird		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mockingbird]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2016 07:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-975301&quot;&gt;Mockingbird&lt;/a&gt;.


Here are some selections of L. Ron Hubbard’s views. He lumps gays in with criminals and urges quarantine or disposal for all people below a certain level on his made-up “tone scale.”

Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 1:

“At 1.1 on the tone scale we enter the area of the most vicious reversal of the
second dynamic. Here we have promiscuity, perversion, sadism, and irregular practices.”

From Dianetics, the “modern science of mental heath”

“The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all
forms of deviation in dynamic two such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis andKrafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill
physically.”

Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 13:

“The only answers would seem to be the permanent quarantine of such persons from society to avoid the contagion of their insanities and the general turbulence which they bring to any order, thus forcing it lower on the scale, or processing such persons until they have attained a level on the tone scale which gives them value.”

Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 13:

“Such people should be taken from the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for here is the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of ethics.”]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-975301">Mockingbird</a>.</p>
<p>Here are some selections of L. Ron Hubbard’s views. He lumps gays in with criminals and urges quarantine or disposal for all people below a certain level on his made-up “tone scale.”</p>
<p>Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 1:</p>
<p>“At 1.1 on the tone scale we enter the area of the most vicious reversal of the<br />
second dynamic. Here we have promiscuity, perversion, sadism, and irregular practices.”</p>
<p>From Dianetics, the “modern science of mental heath”</p>
<p>“The sexual pervert (and by this term Dianetics, to be brief, includes any and all<br />
forms of deviation in dynamic two such as homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual sadism, etc., and all down the catalog of Ellis andKrafft-Ebing) is actually quite ill<br />
physically.”</p>
<p>Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 13:</p>
<p>“The only answers would seem to be the permanent quarantine of such persons from society to avoid the contagion of their insanities and the general turbulence which they bring to any order, thus forcing it lower on the scale, or processing such persons until they have attained a level on the tone scale which gives them value.”</p>
<p>Science of Survival, Book One, Chapt. 13:</p>
<p>“Such people should be taken from the society as rapidly as possible and uniformly institutionalized; for here is the level of the contagion of immorality, and the destruction of ethics.”</p>
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		By: TheNuszAbides		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TheNuszAbides]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2015 17:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-193195&quot;&gt;FLUNK_101&lt;/a&gt;.

here&#039;s the single, solitary thing that any religion (as an abstracted Thought-Processing Entity) ever got right (before twisting it into hypertribalized format and thoroughly ruining the point):  &quot;if you openly discuss your problems and doubts with people you trust, you have a massively increased chance of working through them to a healthy solution.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/comment-page-1/#comment-193195">FLUNK_101</a>.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s the single, solitary thing that any religion (as an abstracted Thought-Processing Entity) ever got right (before twisting it into hypertribalized format and thoroughly ruining the point):  &#8220;if you openly discuss your problems and doubts with people you trust, you have a massively increased chance of working through them to a healthy solution.&#8221;</p>
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