One might say that Liz Souza is simply very excited about her “cure” and wants to share with others, but while seizures can be controlled epilepsy can’t be cured.

Don’t take medical advice or buy medicines from the internet; visit your doctor or GP.

He should be concerned, as should anyone else for the reasons shown in this article: Dianetics tells people not to take medication and instead use their bullshit nonsense about thetans and auditing.

Even without Miscavige and his ilk, the teachings of scientology are incredibly dangerous to the vulnerable.

Sorry richelieu, i wanted to click on the link but I fatfingered the down vote button. Not sure if I can revers it? My apologies!!!
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PS: I upvoted your contribution and the down vote disappeared. All good. 🙂

Scientology aims to kill off empathy. But it can grow back!

And I think saving face is a lot of it. People need to rationalize their actions.

“Rationalization is more important than sex!” – The Big Chill

Seems like there are enough personal stories about bogus medical advice that you could do a post asking for stories from Ex Members about their experiences, similar to the one about disconnection.
cheers – keep up the good work!

All correct up till the first “and” 🙂

Class-action lawsuits are coming (I have no special insider info, these things are just inevitable), but the victims won’t get much out of it, they seldom do. The lawyers get paid.

Class-action suits are not about restitution, they are about teaching companies a lesson in the only way they will listen – in the pocketbook.

The key thing is to spot what the person still in will accept as help. There’s two things that keep people still “in”:

1. Threat of losing friends, family, connections, livelihood
2. Threat of losing your eternity

Don’t discount the second, it’s probably the more powerful. Yes, I know this sounds weird and totally incomprehensible to a never-in, but it’s very common. You are dealing with people who are convinced they have whole-track memories going back 4 trillion years or whatever, and really bought into the idea that the current life is just one more of many.

If your[1] purpose is to extend a helping hand, then you extend the hand the person is willing to jump for. For many, that is Scn Lite, or just a way to get auditing and not be in DMs clutches. For some, friends and family is enough. Still others have what it takes to walk away. Everyone is different.

If your purpose is the complete total destruction of Scientology and everything attached to it right the fuck now, the approach is different. I just don’t that’s a good way to go – too much antagonism and it just sets up an Us vs Them game all over again. Which is exactly the game DM is playing, I’m over that.

FWIW, I don’t do Scn Lite and I’m not Indie. I’ll help my old mates from long ago when they step out the Matrix, but my help won’t be Scn Lite – I’ll refer them elsewhere if that’s what they feel they want.

[1] Not “you” as in Once_Born, but “you” in the general sense. Ye gods, sometimes I hate English pronouns…

All the kindness here. Overwhelming. Thank you, Casabeca.