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	Comments on: DOX: Class-Action Plaintiffs Aim at David Miscavige&#8217;s Total Control of Scientology	</title>
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		By: John P.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John P.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183857&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

You guys might ask Tony to act as an intermediary to forward e-mail addresses to each other. That&#039;s how he first helped me to hook up IRL with several people interested in talking with me.  That&#039;d be more secure than taking a chance on Google+ security; I have had my name revealed accidentally on Google+ a couple times inadvertently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183857">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>You guys might ask Tony to act as an intermediary to forward e-mail addresses to each other. That&#8217;s how he first helped me to hook up IRL with several people interested in talking with me.  That&#8217;d be more secure than taking a chance on Google+ security; I have had my name revealed accidentally on Google+ a couple times inadvertently.</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 12:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183869&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

OMG my head is about to fall off. :) 



I realize I&#039;m meant to have been born with a USB port in my ear, but . . . . . . well . . . . . I didn&#039;t. Birth defect I guess. 



I&#039;ll go explore this Google + thing of which you speak MK!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183869">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>OMG my head is about to fall off. 🙂 </p>
<p>I realize I&#8217;m meant to have been born with a USB port in my ear, but . . . . . . well . . . . . I didn&#8217;t. Birth defect I guess. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll go explore this Google + thing of which you speak MK!</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183869</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183865&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d say, don&#039;t do it. 

Maybe I&#039;d just too paranoid.


For one thing, I don&#039;t think you want the cult to figure out what your real email address is, even though you haven&#039;t done anything that would get their attention.  For another, anyone can just click on your avatar, and it reveals your latest post, regardless if it is on Tony&#039;s blog days or weeks before.  I went to your avatar on today&#039;s posts, and the posting &quot;This is frustrating to me.....&quot; was the first one that came up.

If you do post your email address, write it like JennyJones at rr dot net because that way the web crawlers that suck up email addresses for spam providers don&#039;t detect it.

There&#039;s probably enough information that I&#039;ve put out on this blog that someone, with hard digging could figure out who I am.  I have one email address that has my name in it, and that only goes to friends.  I have another that my response notifications come in on, but that&#039;s used so often that I don&#039;t want to have any spam on it either.


Bella&#039;s google+ account is not under her legal name, so anyone looking at it, won&#039;t know what her real name is.  My Google + account has my real name, so anyone who sees it will know instantly who I am.  Sound confusing enough?


The nice thing about Google+ is that if you&#039;re not in a circle, you have to be granted access to that circle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183865">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say, don&#8217;t do it. </p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;d just too paranoid.</p>
<p>For one thing, I don&#8217;t think you want the cult to figure out what your real email address is, even though you haven&#8217;t done anything that would get their attention.  For another, anyone can just click on your avatar, and it reveals your latest post, regardless if it is on Tony&#8217;s blog days or weeks before.  I went to your avatar on today&#8217;s posts, and the posting &#8220;This is frustrating to me&#8230;..&#8221; was the first one that came up.</p>
<p>If you do post your email address, write it like JennyJones at rr dot net because that way the web crawlers that suck up email addresses for spam providers don&#8217;t detect it.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s probably enough information that I&#8217;ve put out on this blog that someone, with hard digging could figure out who I am.  I have one email address that has my name in it, and that only goes to friends.  I have another that my response notifications come in on, but that&#8217;s used so often that I don&#8217;t want to have any spam on it either.</p>
<p>Bella&#8217;s google+ account is not under her legal name, so anyone looking at it, won&#8217;t know what her real name is.  My Google + account has my real name, so anyone who sees it will know instantly who I am.  Sound confusing enough?</p>
<p>The nice thing about Google+ is that if you&#8217;re not in a circle, you have to be granted access to that circle.</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 06:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183861&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

This is frustrating to me :( I have NO problem being who I am - but both &quot;notable Exes&quot; said I need to be vague or it WILL put her lower conditions and the RPF.  I
I&#039;m positive she used a fake name anyway, and it wouldn&#039;t matter but . . . . I got spooked. 



But this is far behind enough that I can give you my personal email no?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183861">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>This is frustrating to me 🙁 I have NO problem being who I am &#8211; but both &#8220;notable Exes&#8221; said I need to be vague or it WILL put her lower conditions and the RPF.  I<br />
I&#8217;m positive she used a fake name anyway, and it wouldn&#8217;t matter but . . . . I got spooked. </p>
<p>But this is far behind enough that I can give you my personal email no?</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183857&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

I posted this back a few days so that it wouldn&#039;t attract attention.   Bella and I worked out a way to contact each other by Google +, I&#039;ll have to go back over how we did it.


In any event, I&#039;ll work out how we can email without snoopers.  We&#039;ll try to get Mr. Tilsie (sp?) there too, and anyone else in the area.  I&#039;ll be up there in the middle of the month.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183857">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>I posted this back a few days so that it wouldn&#8217;t attract attention.   Bella and I worked out a way to contact each other by Google +, I&#8217;ll have to go back over how we did it.</p>
<p>In any event, I&#8217;ll work out how we can email without snoopers.  We&#8217;ll try to get Mr. Tilsie (sp?) there too, and anyone else in the area.  I&#8217;ll be up there in the middle of the month.</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 05:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183823&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

HA! That&#039;s perfect. I was going to do the same thing to BTN, asking if I should know that Tony and Scott were a couple, or if it&#039;s tacit, or if it&#039;s not a thing. 



Keep in mind that I spent years living in the castro and it gay and lesbian that got me my start. :) 



Gossipy. :)


I&#039;d love to see you. ! And yah, I&#039;ll be here all month - I might leave Ash at home :) But you&#039;ll meet the enormous bulk that is the twins. ! :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-183823">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>HA! That&#8217;s perfect. I was going to do the same thing to BTN, asking if I should know that Tony and Scott were a couple, or if it&#8217;s tacit, or if it&#8217;s not a thing. </p>
<p>Keep in mind that I spent years living in the castro and it gay and lesbian that got me my start. 🙂 </p>
<p>Gossipy. 🙂</p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to see you. ! And yah, I&#8217;ll be here all month &#8211; I might leave Ash at home 🙂 But you&#8217;ll meet the enormous bulk that is the twins. ! 🙂</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jul 2013 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-181157&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

Are you still going to be in the Portland area in Sept?  Bella and I are getting together, and we&#039;re looking for other bunkerites to join us.


I&#039;m posting this here so prying eyes don&#039;t see it. 



Reply to this post, if you&#039;re interested.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-181157">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>Are you still going to be in the Portland area in Sept?  Bella and I are getting together, and we&#8217;re looking for other bunkerites to join us.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m posting this here so prying eyes don&#8217;t see it. </p>
<p>Reply to this post, if you&#8217;re interested.</p>
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		By: shasha40		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shasha40]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 20:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182404&quot;&gt;Bella Legosi&lt;/a&gt;.

Especially when it&#039;s obvious they&#039;re Not doing alot of the oversight it should to protect the public. Just smoke and mirrors to distract...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182404">Bella Legosi</a>.</p>
<p>Especially when it&#8217;s obvious they&#8217;re Not doing alot of the oversight it should to protect the public. Just smoke and mirrors to distract&#8230;</p>
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		By: DodoTheLaser		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DodoTheLaser]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 06:31:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182381&quot;&gt;Bella Legosi&lt;/a&gt;.

:) :) :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182381">Bella Legosi</a>.</p>
<p>🙂 🙂 🙂</p>
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		By: Bella Legosi		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bella Legosi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182121&quot;&gt;shasha40&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh the FDA IMO are a bunch of greedy Vogons! I really didn&#039;t find them at all helpful and really came to distrust them when I read &quot;Fast Food Nation&quot;. 

It&#039;s nice to know that I am not the only one confounded when it comes to some made up, &quot;religous&quot; &quot;tech&quot;, that isn&#039;t even approved to diagnose/treat illness and disease, treat illness and disease!

That would be like the Catholics opening up a rehab and  giving the patients the Euchirist and Confession as treatments! I know they would never do that but still. Its one of those times where $cientology claims this &quot;isnt religion&quot;! God, I HATE THAT!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/07/25/class-action-plaintiffs-attempt-to-demonstrate-david-miscaviges-control-of-scientology/comment-page-1/#comment-182121">shasha40</a>.</p>
<p>Oh the FDA IMO are a bunch of greedy Vogons! I really didn&#8217;t find them at all helpful and really came to distrust them when I read &#8220;Fast Food Nation&#8221;. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice to know that I am not the only one confounded when it comes to some made up, &#8220;religous&#8221; &#8220;tech&#8221;, that isn&#8217;t even approved to diagnose/treat illness and disease, treat illness and disease!</p>
<p>That would be like the Catholics opening up a rehab and  giving the patients the Euchirist and Confession as treatments! I know they would never do that but still. Its one of those times where $cientology claims this &#8220;isnt religion&#8221;! God, I HATE THAT!</p>
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