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	Comments on: SCIENTOLOGY DENIED: CA Appeals Court Won&#8217;t Help Church in Forced-Abortion Lawsuit	</title>
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		By: Douglas D. Douglas		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Douglas D. Douglas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 22:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120769&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

The plaintiff will have already requested specific materials. And unless everything disappears (which would be most suspicious), there would be obvious gaps if they tried to dispose of the most sensitive material. Based on what I have learned about auditing, there are specific levels, and a number of folders that match to each. Anyone who knows what is supposed to be there (like, the plaintiff) would be able to know if material is gone.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120769">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>The plaintiff will have already requested specific materials. And unless everything disappears (which would be most suspicious), there would be obvious gaps if they tried to dispose of the most sensitive material. Based on what I have learned about auditing, there are specific levels, and a number of folders that match to each. Anyone who knows what is supposed to be there (like, the plaintiff) would be able to know if material is gone.</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 18:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121117&quot;&gt;Rebecca&lt;/a&gt;.

I can say that after being teenagers, I let mine survive.  They&#039;ve turned out well in spite of me.  ;-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121117">Rebecca</a>.</p>
<p>I can say that after being teenagers, I let mine survive.  They&#8217;ve turned out well in spite of me.  😉</p>
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		By: Rebecca		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 18:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120891&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

Once again, I agree with you 100%.  But a well-raised child is a beautiful thing.  Usually ;).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120891">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>Once again, I agree with you 100%.  But a well-raised child is a beautiful thing.  Usually ;).</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 18:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121048&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Oh, and I was referring to his weird, duck-like lips, making a dumb joke about him pressing them to get them that way in a special machine... (people have a hard time getting my humour a lot, too..)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121048">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Oh, and I was referring to his weird, duck-like lips, making a dumb joke about him pressing them to get them that way in a special machine&#8230; (people have a hard time getting my humour a lot, too..)</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121048&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah man, nice work if you can get it, huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121048">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah man, nice work if you can get it, huh?</p>
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		By: Bob		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120969&quot;&gt;richelieu jr&lt;/a&gt;.

RJ, 
Well if I understand you right (duck-bill press machine) I think he had is young messengers perform that task. I am not really familiar with that machine.

I think the three downs come from the fact that some commenters still don&#039;t get my humor and think I am serious. But in fact Hubbard was doing all those things when I was on the ship. At the time I was smitten with one of the messengers. I swear he was hell bent on creating heaven on that ship. :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120969">richelieu jr</a>.</p>
<p>RJ,<br />
Well if I understand you right (duck-bill press machine) I think he had is young messengers perform that task. I am not really familiar with that machine.</p>
<p>I think the three downs come from the fact that some commenters still don&#8217;t get my humor and think I am serious. But in fact Hubbard was doing all those things when I was on the ship. At the time I was smitten with one of the messengers. I swear he was hell bent on creating heaven on that ship. 🙂</p>
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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 16:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121030&quot;&gt;RMycroft&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks.  I couldn&#039;t remember Marjoe&#039;s name.  Too bad that his expose of evangelists didn&#039;t take beyond a few years.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-121030">RMycroft</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks.  I couldn&#8217;t remember Marjoe&#8217;s name.  Too bad that his expose of evangelists didn&#8217;t take beyond a few years.</p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RMycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120823&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv7cnSSmaU]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120823">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv7cnSSmaU" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHv7cnSSmaU</a></p>
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		By: RMycroft		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[RMycroft]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 16:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120381&quot;&gt;Ruby&lt;/a&gt;.

Sounds like a lot of paperwork for a 900 minute course.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120381">Ruby</a>.</p>
<p>Sounds like a lot of paperwork for a 900 minute course.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 May 2013 14:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120423&quot;&gt;Bob&lt;/a&gt;.

Don&#039;t forget the endless hours with his lips in &#039;duck-bill&#039; press machine.. That had to hurt...

Man, you got THREE down votes for yours! I&#039;m jealous, Bob!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/05/01/scientology-denied-ca-appeals-court-rules-for-documents-release-in-forced-abortion-lawsuit/comment-page-1/#comment-120423">Bob</a>.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t forget the endless hours with his lips in &#8216;duck-bill&#8217; press machine.. That had to hurt&#8230;</p>
<p>Man, you got THREE down votes for yours! I&#8217;m jealous, Bob!</p>
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