Ha yes! I relate to this. There are a number of members of my extended family who are in cults of their own..of two, three, four…depending on who else goes along with it. It is definitely personality disorder territory…Stockholm Syndrome, all that. I see it very clearly because I am ex-cult (not Scientology, but it was strongly influenced by them). Amazing that you used insight from understanding the Scientology saga to unhook yourself from your own personal cult with a partner! I’ve never heard of that before. Agree, these leaders are damaged personalities, not monsters….

He is on ESMB. Although I am not sure how often. Just google ESMB and it will come right up;)

How cool is that!
I would love to contact him too where/how can I find his contact?
I know we normally cannot write links here but perhaps you can put down the search words that would lead me there?
This man seems so gentle, and sees SCN as I see it. And I feel that it is a very, very sad story, to have seen a way out and to have seen it slip through your hands, and to have been chastised like he has, or banned.
It would be wonderful to write to him as I have some interesting things to say to him too.
I hope he is alright.
Love,
Katia
I am a bit concerned that most of such links may have been changed to lead to the church’s investigators anyway… But I have little to lose, as I too have been cut off for applying Tech as it is.

Kindly let me know.

i dabbled in scinto years ago, and it did have a hold, of sorts, for a few years after, subsiding as my world view matured unmolested by mind-control freaks – the certain knowledge that it is all complete bunk has sustained me in later years.

there is doubtless an interesting story of ‘independents’ moving out of the fold entirely to be told, and i would certainly like to hear it.

(I’ve been traveling for the last 3 days). I took you too seriously, which is often my weakness online. I’m still finding my way around this group. 😉

It’s exactly because of this that I cannot tear my eyes away from this train wreck. I feel I don’t understand the human race until I can understand how such an organization as scientology can carry on not just scraping by (not exactly flourishing either), but surviving against all possible odds. I despair sometimes….

Yeah I love Maynard and all his blasphemous music…….I was told Tool did a concert at the Hollywood Bowl and lol they turned that shit up to 11. Everyone in downtown LA were subject to this wondrous noise pollution….. 😀 they fined Tool for noise pollution but I am guessing that was a drop in the bucket and well worth it

We religious haters in PDX LOVE anything Maynard Keenan. I have come to the conclusion Tool is right up there with Pink Floyd or Rolling Stones.

Heh…….learn to swim……couldnt be more fitting…..too bad I don’t live near an apartment full of Sea Orgers……they would get the Tool treatment from 830am to 10pm…… 😀