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		By: Missionary Kid		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Missionary Kid]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Apr 2013 06:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-111523&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey, thanks.  I probably read the book decades ago.  I didn&#039;t remember that the story came from RAH.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-111523">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>Hey, thanks.  I probably read the book decades ago.  I didn&#8217;t remember that the story came from RAH.</p>
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		By: Jonathan W. Hendry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan W. Hendry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110841&quot;&gt;FistOfXenu&lt;/a&gt;.

Here it is, if you dare: http://metro.co.uk/2009/10/01/is-this-the-foot-long-preserved-penis-of-rasputin-454549/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110841">FistOfXenu</a>.</p>
<p>Here it is, if you dare: <a href="http://metro.co.uk/2009/10/01/is-this-the-foot-long-preserved-penis-of-rasputin-454549/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://metro.co.uk/2009/10/01/is-this-the-foot-long-preserved-penis-of-rasputin-454549/</a></p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 23:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110669&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

$10 says Rachel never pulled shit like this when she was running the thing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110669">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>$10 says Rachel never pulled shit like this when she was running the thing.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110698&quot;&gt;Missionary Kid&lt;/a&gt;.

In the Robert A Heinlein future fantasy &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rulit.net/books/friday-read-67481-26.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Friday,&lt;/a&gt; one of the characters introduces the fictitious cult &quot;Angels of the Lord&quot; by telling this story: &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Last March, early April, I had driven to the &lt;/i&gt;[space]&lt;i&gt;port to pick up Ian. The Concourse was loaded with Hare Krishna freaks, saffron robes and shaved heads and jumping up and down and demanding money. A load of Scientologists was coming out the gates, heading for some do of theirs, a North American convention I think it was. Just as the two groups merged, here came the Angels of the Lord, homemade signs and tambourines and clubs.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Marj, it was the gaudiest brawl I have ever seen. No trouble telling the three sides apart. The Hare Krishners looked like clowns, unmistakable. The Angels and the Hubbardites did not wear robes but there was no trouble telling them apart. The Elronners were clean and neat and short-haired; the Angels looked like unmade beds. They carried the &#039;stink of piety,&#039; too; I got downwind of them once, then moved quickly.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;The Scientologists, of course, have had to fight for their rights many times; they fought with discipline, defended themselves, and disengaged rapidly - got out, taking their wounded with them. The Hairy Krishners fought like squawking chickens and left their wounded behind. But the Angels of the Lord fought as if they were crazy - and I think they are. They moved straight in, swinging clubs and fists, and didn&#039;t stop until they were down and unable to get up. It took about as many Mounties to subdue them as there were Angels... when the usual ratio is one Mounty, one riot.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;It appears that the Angels knew that the Hubbardites were arriving at that time and had come there to jump them; the Hare Krishna crowd showed up by accident - they were at the port simply because it is a good place to shake down rubes for money. But, having found the Hairies and being unable to pin down the Scientologists, the Angels settled for beating up the Krishna freaks.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110698">Missionary Kid</a>.</p>
<p>In the Robert A Heinlein future fantasy <a href="http://www.rulit.net/books/friday-read-67481-26.html" rel="nofollow">Friday,</a> one of the characters introduces the fictitious cult &#8220;Angels of the Lord&#8221; by telling this story: </p>
<blockquote><p><i>Last March, early April, I had driven to the </i>[space]<i>port to pick up Ian. The Concourse was loaded with Hare Krishna freaks, saffron robes and shaved heads and jumping up and down and demanding money. A load of Scientologists was coming out the gates, heading for some do of theirs, a North American convention I think it was. Just as the two groups merged, here came the Angels of the Lord, homemade signs and tambourines and clubs.</i></p>
<p><i>Marj, it was the gaudiest brawl I have ever seen. No trouble telling the three sides apart. The Hare Krishners looked like clowns, unmistakable. The Angels and the Hubbardites did not wear robes but there was no trouble telling them apart. The Elronners were clean and neat and short-haired; the Angels looked like unmade beds. They carried the &#8216;stink of piety,&#8217; too; I got downwind of them once, then moved quickly.</i></p>
<p><i>The Scientologists, of course, have had to fight for their rights many times; they fought with discipline, defended themselves, and disengaged rapidly &#8211; got out, taking their wounded with them. The Hairy Krishners fought like squawking chickens and left their wounded behind. But the Angels of the Lord fought as if they were crazy &#8211; and I think they are. They moved straight in, swinging clubs and fists, and didn&#8217;t stop until they were down and unable to get up. It took about as many Mounties to subdue them as there were Angels&#8230; when the usual ratio is one Mounty, one riot.</i></p>
<p><i>It appears that the Angels knew that the Hubbardites were arriving at that time and had come there to jump them; the Hare Krishna crowd showed up by accident &#8211; they were at the port simply because it is a good place to shake down rubes for money. But, having found the Hairies and being unable to pin down the Scientologists, the Angels settled for beating up the Krishna freaks.</i></p></blockquote>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 22:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110901&quot;&gt;Midwest Mom&lt;/a&gt;.

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110901">Midwest Mom</a>.</p>
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		By: FistOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FistOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-111264&quot;&gt;Jonathan W. Hendry&lt;/a&gt;.

I once owned a very old car with a huge crank, just as a hobby, but it never got women for me or the car.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-111264">Jonathan W. Hendry</a>.</p>
<p>I once owned a very old car with a huge crank, just as a hobby, but it never got women for me or the car.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 11:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110584&quot;&gt;claybonnyman&lt;/a&gt;.

While staying as a guest at Robert and Leslyn Heinlein&#039;s Philadelphia apartment, Hubbard apparently had sex with Leslyn. Hubbard whined about it in his &lt;i&gt;Admissions:&lt;/i&gt; &quot;I ... was subsequently selected for the Military Government School at Princeton whither I went in 1944-45 for three months. During my Princeton sojourn I was very tired and harrassed (sp?) and spent week-ends with a writer friend in Philadelphia. He almost forced me to sleep with his wife.&quot; http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=389324#p389324]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110584">claybonnyman</a>.</p>
<p>While staying as a guest at Robert and Leslyn Heinlein&#8217;s Philadelphia apartment, Hubbard apparently had sex with Leslyn. Hubbard whined about it in his <i>Admissions:</i> &#8220;I &#8230; was subsequently selected for the Military Government School at Princeton whither I went in 1944-45 for three months. During my Princeton sojourn I was very tired and harrassed (sp?) and spent week-ends with a writer friend in Philadelphia. He almost forced me to sleep with his wife.&#8221; <a href="http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=389324#p389324" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?p=389324#p389324</a></p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110506&quot;&gt;BuryTheNuts2&lt;/a&gt;.

If you dress up as an SO missionaire, you can drop in to the Freewinds and liberate the OT VIII materials! Think of the lulz!]]></description>
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<p>If you dress up as an SO missionaire, you can drop in to the Freewinds and liberate the OT VIII materials! Think of the lulz!</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 10:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110746&quot;&gt;Captain Howdy&lt;/a&gt;.

few dozen weaknesses?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110746">Captain Howdy</a>.</p>
<p>few dozen weaknesses?</p>
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		By: Jonathan W. Hendry		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan W. Hendry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/04/12/scientology-throwing-big-annual-party-for-sci-fi-writers-who-see-nothing/comment-page-1/#comment-110841&quot;&gt;FistOfXenu&lt;/a&gt;.

Apparently Rasputin had a huge crank. If you search Google you can find what purports to be a photo of it, preserved in Russia somewhere.]]></description>
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<p>Apparently Rasputin had a huge crank. If you search Google you can find what purports to be a photo of it, preserved in Russia somewhere.</p>
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