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	Comments on: Blogging Dianetics, Part 6: Reactive Mind Games	</title>
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		By: Kevin Hogan		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-1722949</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kevin Hogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84626&quot;&gt;Alanzo&lt;/a&gt;.

I have to agree, in fact compassion was in fact harmful to the being who was be subjected to the horror of it. Sympathy was much lower toned because you were going into agreement with the pc. You know the old man already got all that shit figured out as Budda and didn&#039;t need to repeat that again. I was really glad he had swooped in from wherever that non-insane, peaceful place he incarnated from. I always thought I was the only one who didn&#039;t buy all the bullshit, sounds like that wasn&#039;t the case, I was in, but I&#039;m gonna say 80 percent. But I primarily thought it was all screwed up because we dealing with people running things, it&#039;s not like they were all OT or something. JEEEESH! Carry on...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84626">Alanzo</a>.</p>
<p>I have to agree, in fact compassion was in fact harmful to the being who was be subjected to the horror of it. Sympathy was much lower toned because you were going into agreement with the pc. You know the old man already got all that shit figured out as Budda and didn&#8217;t need to repeat that again. I was really glad he had swooped in from wherever that non-insane, peaceful place he incarnated from. I always thought I was the only one who didn&#8217;t buy all the bullshit, sounds like that wasn&#8217;t the case, I was in, but I&#8217;m gonna say 80 percent. But I primarily thought it was all screwed up because we dealing with people running things, it&#8217;s not like they were all OT or something. JEEEESH! Carry on&#8230;</p>
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		By: blissfulldreams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blissfulldreams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84915&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

thank you, now how do we get Tony to put it on the side of the site so it is easy for everyone to find ?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84915">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>thank you, now how do we get Tony to put it on the side of the site so it is easy for everyone to find ?</p>
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		By: N. Graham		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[N. Graham]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 02:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84844&quot;&gt;Ciru&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, no one&#039;s saying he&#039;s as short as DM or TC.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84844">Ciru</a>.</p>
<p>Well, no one&#8217;s saying he&#8217;s as short as DM or TC.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84905&quot;&gt;blissfulldreams&lt;/a&gt;.

Our host, Tony Ortega, wrote this nifty short intro - in English, no scienospeak: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/what_is_scientology.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84905">blissfulldreams</a>.</p>
<p>Our host, Tony Ortega, wrote this nifty short intro &#8211; in English, no scienospeak: <a href="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/what_is_scientology.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/what_is_scientology.php</a></p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
		<link>https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84914</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 01:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84908&quot;&gt;Ziontologist&lt;/a&gt;.

To climb in the organization, you have to leave compassion behind. You sacrifice that part of yourself to &quot;the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.&quot;  As you rise, a new kind of &quot;compassion&quot; might take over: &quot;compassion&quot; redefined as inducing others to subordinate  themselves to the aims of the Scientology hierarchy, getting their ethics in and stats up. Auditors and low-level publics are permitted to retain some real compassion because it&#039;s good for business: it boosts their production and baits the trap for others.


Many Scientologists&#039; own native compassion fights back, and eventually wins, against this heavy suppression - at which time they bust out from the Chruch. The re-emergence of gloriously free, compassionate &lt;i&gt;homo sapiens&lt;/i&gt; from the Scientology mindtrap is a thing of great beauty.


Around the distant fringes of Scientology, surely there are Scientologists who have not yet had their compassion ethicked out of them. If you were lucky enough to spend your Scientology career among such people, take a win! You got off easy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84908">Ziontologist</a>.</p>
<p>To climb in the organization, you have to leave compassion behind. You sacrifice that part of yourself to &#8220;the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.&#8221;  As you rise, a new kind of &#8220;compassion&#8221; might take over: &#8220;compassion&#8221; redefined as inducing others to subordinate  themselves to the aims of the Scientology hierarchy, getting their ethics in and stats up. Auditors and low-level publics are permitted to retain some real compassion because it&#8217;s good for business: it boosts their production and baits the trap for others.</p>
<p>Many Scientologists&#8217; own native compassion fights back, and eventually wins, against this heavy suppression &#8211; at which time they bust out from the Chruch. The re-emergence of gloriously free, compassionate <i>homo sapiens</i> from the Scientology mindtrap is a thing of great beauty.</p>
<p>Around the distant fringes of Scientology, surely there are Scientologists who have not yet had their compassion ethicked out of them. If you were lucky enough to spend your Scientology career among such people, take a win! You got off easy.</p>
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		By: Poison Ivy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Poison Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 21:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84802&quot;&gt;grundoon&lt;/a&gt;.

This is fodder for a great study on linguistics and mind control, if anyone is looking for a PhD thesis topic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84802">grundoon</a>.</p>
<p>This is fodder for a great study on linguistics and mind control, if anyone is looking for a PhD thesis topic.</p>
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		By: Victoria Pandora		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Victoria Pandora]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 18:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Yeah, I read Dianetics when I was 17. I guess I assumed that in the grown up world you weren&#039;t allowed to lie you ass off in print, unless you were a religion, and this was SCIENCE!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I read Dianetics when I was 17. I guess I assumed that in the grown up world you weren&#8217;t allowed to lie you ass off in print, unless you were a religion, and this was SCIENCE!</p>
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		By: Ziontologist		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ziontologist]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 16:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84910&quot;&gt;Poison Ivy&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;The tech&quot; teaches you early on to be &quot;a good auditor,&quot; which is someone who can listen without judgement. 
The ultimate goal is nefarious, but I think a lot of compassionate people were drawn into that. And I sure there were plenty of narcissists who rejected self help because they thought they didn&#039;t need it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84910">Poison Ivy</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;The tech&#8221; teaches you early on to be &#8220;a good auditor,&#8221; which is someone who can listen without judgement.<br />
The ultimate goal is nefarious, but I think a lot of compassionate people were drawn into that. And I sure there were plenty of narcissists who rejected self help because they thought they didn&#8217;t need it.</p>
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		By: Poison Ivy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Poison Ivy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84908&quot;&gt;Ziontologist&lt;/a&gt;.

Not the individual Scientologists.  In fact their natural compassion was probably what led so many of them out.  The SYSTEM of Scientology.  The system preys on the natural (and perhaps above-average) compassion of the victim.   However for some, the attraction of Scientology (like EST)  was the self-help, &quot;make me a super-being&quot; claims of the &quot;tech]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/08/blogging-dianetics-part-6-reactive-mind-games/comment-page-1/#comment-84908">Ziontologist</a>.</p>
<p>Not the individual Scientologists.  In fact their natural compassion was probably what led so many of them out.  The SYSTEM of Scientology.  The system preys on the natural (and perhaps above-average) compassion of the victim.   However for some, the attraction of Scientology (like EST)  was the self-help, &#8220;make me a super-being&#8221; claims of the &#8220;tech</p>
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		By: Jory		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jory]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 15:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Just finished reading this excellent article by Dr. Oliver Sacks, &quot;Speak, Memory&quot;, regarding the many types of false memories. Of course it flies in the face of everything Dianetics teaches. Excellent reading. http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/feb/21/speak-memory/?pagination=false]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished reading this excellent article by Dr. Oliver Sacks, &#8220;Speak, Memory&#8221;, regarding the many types of false memories. Of course it flies in the face of everything Dianetics teaches. Excellent reading. <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/feb/21/speak-memory/?pagination=false" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2013/feb/21/speak-memory/?pagination=false</a></p>
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