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	Comments on: Jenna Miscavige Hill on her Uncle, Scientology&#8217;s Leader: A Bully Too Afraid to Show His Face	</title>
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		By: StudentOfLife		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85246&quot;&gt;TheHoleDoesNotExist&lt;/a&gt;.

I was curious as I read this a few years later for the first time, if you are still on the Bunker and if you have changed to a different &quot;name&quot; on the Bunker.  I hope you have found peace and serenity.  The Bunker has come a long way in the nearly two years I&#039;ve been reading it.  You don&#039;t have to answer, but I am wondering if today you are excited at the fact that Lil Davey in 2017 will likely not ever show his face in a public street or non-scilon setting (at least in USA) and will likely be seen at less and less scientology events as the cult shrinks to less than 10,000 in the USA. I suspect by end of 2017, the majority of scilons left will be over 50 if they are American or foreign born newcomers whose passports are confiscated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85246">TheHoleDoesNotExist</a>.</p>
<p>I was curious as I read this a few years later for the first time, if you are still on the Bunker and if you have changed to a different &#8220;name&#8221; on the Bunker.  I hope you have found peace and serenity.  The Bunker has come a long way in the nearly two years I&#8217;ve been reading it.  You don&#8217;t have to answer, but I am wondering if today you are excited at the fact that Lil Davey in 2017 will likely not ever show his face in a public street or non-scilon setting (at least in USA) and will likely be seen at less and less scientology events as the cult shrinks to less than 10,000 in the USA. I suspect by end of 2017, the majority of scilons left will be over 50 if they are American or foreign born newcomers whose passports are confiscated.</p>
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		By: Artoo45		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Artoo45]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85341&quot;&gt;Bradley Greenwood&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s a miniature golf game apparatus. She was out on some kind of field trip from the Ranch.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85341">Bradley Greenwood</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a miniature golf game apparatus. She was out on some kind of field trip from the Ranch.</p>
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		By: Dean Fox		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 08:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My one criticism of the book is that Jenna sticks with referring to females as &quot;Mr&quot;, in keeping with L Ron Hubbard&#039;s equality ethics, it&#039;s confusing sometimes to know whether Mr Rathbun refers to Marty or his then wife for instance; maybe the inclusion of first names in all such instances may help. Other than that a great read.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My one criticism of the book is that Jenna sticks with referring to females as &#8220;Mr&#8221;, in keeping with L Ron Hubbard&#8217;s equality ethics, it&#8217;s confusing sometimes to know whether Mr Rathbun refers to Marty or his then wife for instance; maybe the inclusion of first names in all such instances may help. Other than that a great read.</p>
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		By: MarionDee		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MarionDee]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 10:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85774&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

Face palm ... sister, of course! Feel free to refer to me as someone&#039;s brother anytime you like! .... I will be thinking of you, MK. Hang in there and I will too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85774">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>Face palm &#8230; sister, of course! Feel free to refer to me as someone&#8217;s brother anytime you like! &#8230;. I will be thinking of you, MK. Hang in there and I will too.</p>
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		By: wannabeclear		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[wannabeclear]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85572&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

It looks like they have ONE copy of the the Basics, but it&#039;s only available by request.  What that means is that it&#039;s not shelved in any of the 95 branches of the NYPL and that it&#039;s in offsite storage and only available by prior arrangement.  It seems that the majority of LRH&#039;s $cientology related books (including the shmancy new glossy biography set) are only available in this way.  The only books of his that seem readily available to check out are his (intentional) fiction.  This makes me exceedingly happy.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85572">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>It looks like they have ONE copy of the the Basics, but it&#8217;s only available by request.  What that means is that it&#8217;s not shelved in any of the 95 branches of the NYPL and that it&#8217;s in offsite storage and only available by prior arrangement.  It seems that the majority of LRH&#8217;s $cientology related books (including the shmancy new glossy biography set) are only available in this way.  The only books of his that seem readily available to check out are his (intentional) fiction.  This makes me exceedingly happy.</p>
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		By: monkeyknickers		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[monkeyknickers]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85758&quot;&gt;MarionDee&lt;/a&gt;.

Marion - thank you SO much for taking the time to write this . . . it really made me feel better. I really appreciate it . . . .


And I hope with all my heart for 1) My sister to leave, or 2) the &quot;church&quot; to implode . . . . . in either case I will be there in my late model pick-up to get that girl. :)


Oh! And! I&#039;m her sister!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85758">MarionDee</a>.</p>
<p>Marion &#8211; thank you SO much for taking the time to write this . . . it really made me feel better. I really appreciate it . . . .</p>
<p>And I hope with all my heart for 1) My sister to leave, or 2) the &#8220;church&#8221; to implode . . . . . in either case I will be there in my late model pick-up to get that girl. 🙂</p>
<p>Oh! And! I&#8217;m her sister!</p>
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		By: blissfulldreams		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blissfulldreams]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 15:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85339&quot;&gt;Peace Theta&lt;/a&gt;.

it&#039;s not a religion in my country it&#039;s classed as a cult]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85339">Peace Theta</a>.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s not a religion in my country it&#8217;s classed as a cult</p>
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		By: FistOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FistOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85583&quot;&gt;monkeyknickers&lt;/a&gt;.

I can definitely see why it&#039;s a tough call for you monkeyknickers. Can&#039;t talk about women&#039;s prisons but there aren&#039;t  a lot of people I&#039;d put in a men&#039;s prison if I could help it.  Except Ron and DM. ]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85583">monkeyknickers</a>.</p>
<p>I can definitely see why it&#8217;s a tough call for you monkeyknickers. Can&#8217;t talk about women&#8217;s prisons but there aren&#8217;t  a lot of people I&#8217;d put in a men&#8217;s prison if I could help it.  Except Ron and DM. </p>
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		By: FistOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FistOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85423&quot;&gt;WhatWouldXenuDo?&lt;/a&gt;.

So you want to know what Xenu would do? Well, if they REALLY came clean even once, no excuses no selective memory no basking in the limelight of their ex-torturer glory (and in one case no living off the Tech of that bastard Ron as if he smelled like roses), I&#039;d let up on them. I think that whole truth and reconciliation thing is the way we should go. When they tell the truth. All of it.


The way things are now, I&#039;m not going to wrap them up in &quot;haven&#039;t they suffered enough?&quot; because my answer is &quot;you really comparing what they suffered to how they made so many other people suffer?&quot; 


But then I agreed with hanging the Nazis at Nuremburg too. Most of &#039;em, anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85423">WhatWouldXenuDo?</a>.</p>
<p>So you want to know what Xenu would do? Well, if they REALLY came clean even once, no excuses no selective memory no basking in the limelight of their ex-torturer glory (and in one case no living off the Tech of that bastard Ron as if he smelled like roses), I&#8217;d let up on them. I think that whole truth and reconciliation thing is the way we should go. When they tell the truth. All of it.</p>
<p>The way things are now, I&#8217;m not going to wrap them up in &#8220;haven&#8217;t they suffered enough?&#8221; because my answer is &#8220;you really comparing what they suffered to how they made so many other people suffer?&#8221; </p>
<p>But then I agreed with hanging the Nazis at Nuremburg too. Most of &#8217;em, anyway.</p>
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		By: FistOfXenu		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[FistOfXenu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85487&quot;&gt;Ze Moo&lt;/a&gt;.

And the IRS &quot;should have&quot; said &quot;Tax exemption? You guys are comedians. Here&#039;s your very own freeloaders bill from the American people.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/05/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-her-uncle-scientologys-leader-a-bully-too-afraid-to-show-his-face/comment-page-1/#comment-85487">Ze Moo</a>.</p>
<p>And the IRS &#8220;should have&#8221; said &#8220;Tax exemption? You guys are comedians. Here&#8217;s your very own freeloaders bill from the American people.&#8221;</p>
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