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	Comments on: More Nutty Scientology Talk, Tom Cruise Style: His Former Assistant&#8217;s Graduation Ceremony!	</title>
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		By: George Diaz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[George Diaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2014 17:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If she made a &quot;correct decision&quot; and truly applied &quot;logic,&quot; she would leave the cult.  I&#039;m just saying.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If she made a &#8220;correct decision&#8221; and truly applied &#8220;logic,&#8221; she would leave the cult.  I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
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		By: Dave Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 04:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that poor Andrea, in her attempt to describe the value of the course, has run into the unfortunate fact that there are no recognizable benefits that the course provided in her life. And understandably so. Looking up the definitions of 50 words and making clay models to describe various moral situations is unlikely to provide one with new insight in regard to the problems one faces at work, in ones personal life or anywhere else.

Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that poor Andrea, in her attempt to describe the value of the course, has run into the unfortunate fact that there are no recognizable benefits that the course provided in her life. And understandably so. Looking up the definitions of 50 words and making clay models to describe various moral situations is unlikely to provide one with new insight in regard to the problems one faces at work, in ones personal life or anywhere else.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		By: Dave Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 04:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-83930&quot;&gt;Patty Moher&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s bad enough watching yourself on video but spouting that nonsense? Embarrassing! But I know that once she&#039;s finally free there&#039;s nothing that can beat that joy!


Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-83930">Patty Moher</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bad enough watching yourself on video but spouting that nonsense? Embarrassing! But I know that once she&#8217;s finally free there&#8217;s nothing that can beat that joy!</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		By: Dave Roberts		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Roberts]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Dec 2013 04:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-103355&quot;&gt;Haiku Funkplus&lt;/a&gt;.

Too true Haiku. But the poor folks who get bound up by Scientology are looking to improve themselves. You and I may know that all self-improvement courses and methods are like a cat chasing it&#039;s own tail. However when you&#039;re caught in the trap and chasing your tail why would Scientology ever tell you the truth?

Dave]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-103355">Haiku Funkplus</a>.</p>
<p>Too true Haiku. But the poor folks who get bound up by Scientology are looking to improve themselves. You and I may know that all self-improvement courses and methods are like a cat chasing it&#8217;s own tail. However when you&#8217;re caught in the trap and chasing your tail why would Scientology ever tell you the truth?</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		By: TonyOrtega		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TonyOrtega]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-152185&quot;&gt;Marcie Wogan&lt;/a&gt;.

http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/how_scientology.php]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-152185">Marcie Wogan</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/how_scientology.php" rel="nofollow ugc">http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/01/how_scientology.php</a></p>
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		By: Marcie Wogan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Marcie Wogan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jun 2013 00:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Tony, I know Michael &quot;Doven&quot;. He&#039;s a failed actor. His older brother was moderately successful as a catalogue model in the 1980&#039;s( are from Colorado) &#038; their real last name is something like Dovenmuehl. Mike was insanely proud of auditioning for &#038; not getting picked as the &quot;Karate Kid&quot; back in the 1980s. Like many wannabe actors he became involved with Scientology to forward his career. So when he rambles on about Scientology, what he really means is &quot;I could have been somebody&quot; but no one thought I had any talent other than Xenu.

The crazy be strong in that one. He has been pretty much dumped by Tom Cruise but does retain his position as official photographer of Scientology: Weddings of Doom, Baby Celebs etc . See Catherine Bell&#039;s photos. http://www.familycircle.com/teen/parenting/celebrity-parents/catherine-bell/ John Travolta &#038; Kelly Preston http://celebritybabies.people.com/2010/08/25/kelly-preston-and-john-travolta-expecting-a-boy/ All are Michael Doven photographs.
Not Tom&#039;s wedding to Katie Holmes though. Must have hurt a lot since he is so devoted and all.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, I know Michael &#8220;Doven&#8221;. He&#8217;s a failed actor. His older brother was moderately successful as a catalogue model in the 1980&#8217;s( are from Colorado) &amp; their real last name is something like Dovenmuehl. Mike was insanely proud of auditioning for &amp; not getting picked as the &#8220;Karate Kid&#8221; back in the 1980s. Like many wannabe actors he became involved with Scientology to forward his career. So when he rambles on about Scientology, what he really means is &#8220;I could have been somebody&#8221; but no one thought I had any talent other than Xenu.</p>
<p>The crazy be strong in that one. He has been pretty much dumped by Tom Cruise but does retain his position as official photographer of Scientology: Weddings of Doom, Baby Celebs etc . See Catherine Bell&#8217;s photos. <a href="http://www.familycircle.com/teen/parenting/celebrity-parents/catherine-bell/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.familycircle.com/teen/parenting/celebrity-parents/catherine-bell/</a> John Travolta &amp; Kelly Preston <a href="http://celebritybabies.people.com/2010/08/25/kelly-preston-and-john-travolta-expecting-a-boy/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://celebritybabies.people.com/2010/08/25/kelly-preston-and-john-travolta-expecting-a-boy/</a> All are Michael Doven photographs.<br />
Not Tom&#8217;s wedding to Katie Holmes though. Must have hurt a lot since he is so devoted and all.</p>
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		By: Haiku Funkplus		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Haiku Funkplus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Mar 2013 18:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-83943&quot;&gt;Jefferson Hawkins&lt;/a&gt;.

Seems to me that if these courses actually taught you how to be aware of falsehoods, and illogical thinking, you would immediately leave the building and stop believing in a giant money making sham created by a SCIENCE FICTION writer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-83943">Jefferson Hawkins</a>.</p>
<p>Seems to me that if these courses actually taught you how to be aware of falsehoods, and illogical thinking, you would immediately leave the building and stop believing in a giant money making sham created by a SCIENCE FICTION writer.</p>
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		By: hogarthian		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hogarthian]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Mar 2013 13:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a fucking horrible woman.  Why is her vocabulary so retarded? This is up there with TC&#039;s rant, perhaps even more scary because because it&#039;s a little more controlled. ugh.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fucking horrible woman.  Why is her vocabulary so retarded? This is up there with TC&#8217;s rant, perhaps even more scary because because it&#8217;s a little more controlled. ugh.</p>
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		By: richelieu jr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[richelieu jr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 19:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-84214&quot;&gt;ParticleMom&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks, PM!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-84214">ParticleMom</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks, PM!</p>
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		By: AstroLadyBoy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AstroLadyBoy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2013 14:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-84050&quot;&gt;BuryTheNuts2&lt;/a&gt;.

LMAO oh btn that killed me! I too only recently realised it wasn&#039;t an old silly saying, thank fuck to Xenu I hadn&#039;t started using it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/02/01/more-nutty-tom-cruise-talk-his-former-assistants-graduation-ceremony/comment-page-1/#comment-84050">BuryTheNuts2</a>.</p>
<p>LMAO oh btn that killed me! I too only recently realised it wasn&#8217;t an old silly saying, thank fuck to Xenu I hadn&#8217;t started using it.</p>
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