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	Comments on: Paul Haggis and Lawrence Wright on NBC&#039;s Rock Center January 17	</title>
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		By: J. Swift		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 05:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74406&quot;&gt;N. Graham&lt;/a&gt;.

Excellent list N. Graham.

The Church of Scientology is a case study in just how badly a group can destroy its own reputation and image through its own sadism and idiocy -- and this while denying that it is either sadistic or idiotic. And then of course there is the Church&#039;s bad side: Yesterday&#039;s piece in the Atlantic was a staggering display of David Miscavige&#039;s malignant narcissism writ large for Culture to ridicule.

There has been an unbroken chain of ever-worsening Karma for the Cult since 2005. In addition to the items N. Graham listed, here is a list of ten additional items that add even more disturbing evidence for use in describing how the Church of Scientology is caught in the intractable grip of its own paranoia and self destruction:

1. Debbie Cook&#039;s e-mail completely derailed the Church for at least six months in 2012. The Debbie Cook e-mail is still online and is still a problem for the Church of Scientology.

2. The shocking refusal of the Church of Scientology to allow Karen de la Carriere a chance to see her dead son&#039;s body and kiss him goodbye. This single malicious act is to the eternal disgrace of the Church of Scientology. This act was yet more proof of just how utterly vindictive and cruel the Church of
Scientology is in actual practice. All of the Church&#039;s &quot;humanitarian&quot; talk has always been a lie and will always be a lie; the fact is that Disconnection exists even after Death.

3. The arrest of Daniel Montalvo on trumped-up charges. Scientologists killed Alexander through neglect and then Scientologists had Daniel arrested on bogus charges. These are but two examples of how Scientologists treat their young people.

4. The murder-suicide perpetrated by young Scientologist Johnny Lewis. Why did this occur? Why was the Church of Scientology unable to prevent this?

5. The suicide of OT Steve Brackett. Again, why was the Church of Scientology unable to prevent this?

6. New OT VIII Rex Fowler murdering an employee after which Church attorneys moved in to ensure that the Church was not ever mentioned in the trial. Rex Fowler had undergone something like 24 Intensives at Flag prior to committing a homicide, but the Church immediately distanced itself from the OT killer.

7. The colossally failed OSA Op that was the Squirrel Busters. The amateurish and bellicose nonsense of the Squirrel Busters only served to underscore the point that the Church of Scientology is both stupid and malicious. This is a very dangerous combination in the hands of a billion dollar cult led by a Madman.

8. The strange and unholy alliance of the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology.

9. David Miscavige&#039;s now decades-long failure to open the Super Power Building. Super Power is truly a scam writ large in concrete and plaster.

10. Tommy Davis: The Last Spokesman. The strange Scientology odyssey of Tommy Davis was as intriguing as it was infuriating. I truly hope Tommy leaves the Church and speaks out. His life is far from over and he has the power to reinvent himself. I wish him all the best.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74406">N. Graham</a>.</p>
<p>Excellent list N. Graham.</p>
<p>The Church of Scientology is a case study in just how badly a group can destroy its own reputation and image through its own sadism and idiocy &#8212; and this while denying that it is either sadistic or idiotic. And then of course there is the Church&#8217;s bad side: Yesterday&#8217;s piece in the Atlantic was a staggering display of David Miscavige&#8217;s malignant narcissism writ large for Culture to ridicule.</p>
<p>There has been an unbroken chain of ever-worsening Karma for the Cult since 2005. In addition to the items N. Graham listed, here is a list of ten additional items that add even more disturbing evidence for use in describing how the Church of Scientology is caught in the intractable grip of its own paranoia and self destruction:</p>
<p>1. Debbie Cook&#8217;s e-mail completely derailed the Church for at least six months in 2012. The Debbie Cook e-mail is still online and is still a problem for the Church of Scientology.</p>
<p>2. The shocking refusal of the Church of Scientology to allow Karen de la Carriere a chance to see her dead son&#8217;s body and kiss him goodbye. This single malicious act is to the eternal disgrace of the Church of Scientology. This act was yet more proof of just how utterly vindictive and cruel the Church of<br />
Scientology is in actual practice. All of the Church&#8217;s &#8220;humanitarian&#8221; talk has always been a lie and will always be a lie; the fact is that Disconnection exists even after Death.</p>
<p>3. The arrest of Daniel Montalvo on trumped-up charges. Scientologists killed Alexander through neglect and then Scientologists had Daniel arrested on bogus charges. These are but two examples of how Scientologists treat their young people.</p>
<p>4. The murder-suicide perpetrated by young Scientologist Johnny Lewis. Why did this occur? Why was the Church of Scientology unable to prevent this?</p>
<p>5. The suicide of OT Steve Brackett. Again, why was the Church of Scientology unable to prevent this?</p>
<p>6. New OT VIII Rex Fowler murdering an employee after which Church attorneys moved in to ensure that the Church was not ever mentioned in the trial. Rex Fowler had undergone something like 24 Intensives at Flag prior to committing a homicide, but the Church immediately distanced itself from the OT killer.</p>
<p>7. The colossally failed OSA Op that was the Squirrel Busters. The amateurish and bellicose nonsense of the Squirrel Busters only served to underscore the point that the Church of Scientology is both stupid and malicious. This is a very dangerous combination in the hands of a billion dollar cult led by a Madman.</p>
<p>8. The strange and unholy alliance of the Nation of Islam and the Church of Scientology.</p>
<p>9. David Miscavige&#8217;s now decades-long failure to open the Super Power Building. Super Power is truly a scam writ large in concrete and plaster.</p>
<p>10. Tommy Davis: The Last Spokesman. The strange Scientology odyssey of Tommy Davis was as intriguing as it was infuriating. I truly hope Tommy leaves the Church and speaks out. His life is far from over and he has the power to reinvent himself. I wish him all the best.</p>
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		By: Anon Nom Nom		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 02:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74488&quot;&gt;mirele&lt;/a&gt;.

But that would be waaaay too typical and boring.  I&#039;m striving for hard to pronounce uniqueness, damn it!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74488">mirele</a>.</p>
<p>But that would be waaaay too typical and boring.  I&#8217;m striving for hard to pronounce uniqueness, damn it!</p>
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		By: washington23		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 01:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74448&quot;&gt;Alanzo&lt;/a&gt;.

He may have answered you...but the response &quot;it&#039;s all in my book&quot; is a pretty frequent one unfortunately.  So no one will really know if that&#039;s actually true unless they read it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74448">Alanzo</a>.</p>
<p>He may have answered you&#8230;but the response &#8220;it&#8217;s all in my book&#8221; is a pretty frequent one unfortunately.  So no one will really know if that&#8217;s actually true unless they read it.</p>
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		By: Lliira		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lliira]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 21:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74333&quot;&gt;Brainslugged&lt;/a&gt;.

And in less-public channels, they&#039;ll start dishing -- or making up -- dirt on people&#039;s sex lives, and acting like we&#039;re all supposed to be horrified that one of them likes to masturbate or something.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74333">Brainslugged</a>.</p>
<p>And in less-public channels, they&#8217;ll start dishing &#8212; or making up &#8212; dirt on people&#8217;s sex lives, and acting like we&#8217;re all supposed to be horrified that one of them likes to masturbate or something.</p>
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		By: Alanzo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alanzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 20:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74336&quot;&gt;EnthralledObserver&lt;/a&gt;.

Settings! Come in Tokyo!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74336">EnthralledObserver</a>.</p>
<p>Settings! Come in Tokyo!</p>
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		By: The Dakini		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Dakini]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 18:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74444&quot;&gt;Alanzo&lt;/a&gt;.

You rock my dear. What a fantastic post.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74444">Alanzo</a>.</p>
<p>You rock my dear. What a fantastic post.</p>
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		By: mirele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mirele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74347&quot;&gt;Anon Nom Nom&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Om nom nom nom&quot; would make more sense.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74347">Anon Nom Nom</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Om nom nom nom&#8221; would make more sense.</p>
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		By: mirele		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mirele]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 16:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74472&quot;&gt;Midwest Mom&lt;/a&gt;.

Cue up Whitney Houston&#039;s &quot;Greatest Love of All:&quot;  &quot;I believe the children are our future...&quot;


Or, to be more rock about it, &quot;The kids are all right.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74472">Midwest Mom</a>.</p>
<p>Cue up Whitney Houston&#8217;s &#8220;Greatest Love of All:&#8221;  &#8220;I believe the children are our future&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Or, to be more rock about it, &#8220;The kids are all right.&#8221;</p>
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		By: Alanzo		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alanzo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 14:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74479&quot;&gt;Midwest Mom&lt;/a&gt;.

Wow. My hero quotes me.


This ruins all my self-debasement. That&#039;s a lot of hard work down the drain now.

Alanzo]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74479">Midwest Mom</a>.</p>
<p>Wow. My hero quotes me.</p>
<p>This ruins all my self-debasement. That&#8217;s a lot of hard work down the drain now.</p>
<p>Alanzo</p>
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		By: DeElizabethan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeElizabethan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2013 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74452&quot;&gt;Alanzo&lt;/a&gt;.

Good one Alanzo, txks

So happy to see another great article by these reporters. This inside story of the cult certainly needs more exposure. This cult is dangerous in many other ways too. Abusing children should be a crime, no matter if called a religion. Keeping them ignorant, working them as much as an adult while filling their little minds with lies and turning them into robots. They will work as slaves, learn how to con the public, promote the cult through more lies for money which goes only to the cult. They help no one but themselves, even if you read their PR, it is only a facade.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/11/paul-haggis-and-lawrence-wright-on-nbcs-rock-center-january-17/comment-page-1/#comment-74452">Alanzo</a>.</p>
<p>Good one Alanzo, txks</p>
<p>So happy to see another great article by these reporters. This inside story of the cult certainly needs more exposure. This cult is dangerous in many other ways too. Abusing children should be a crime, no matter if called a religion. Keeping them ignorant, working them as much as an adult while filling their little minds with lies and turning them into robots. They will work as slaves, learn how to con the public, promote the cult through more lies for money which goes only to the cult. They help no one but themselves, even if you read their PR, it is only a facade.</p>
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