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	Comments on: Scientology Drug Rehab Program&#8217;s Newest Victim: A New York 15-Year-Old	</title>
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		By: Rena S		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rena S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Nov 2013 02:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a student at Rainbow a canyon at the same time as the plaintiff and 99% of this lawsuit isn&#039;t true.  I remember him fainting but that&#039;s because he refused to drink anything but coffee.  He would fight with his minor roommates to the point where staff had to move him.  He didn&#039;t want to be there, so he&#039;d make up stories to his parents in an attempt to get them to bring him home.
I&#039;m no Narconon fan because they gave me an &quot;ethics cycle&quot; for rules broken by other people that I knew about and didn&#039;t tell.  But most of the claims in this lawsuit are ridiculous.  There was no branding, the employees weren&#039;t doing drugs, I certainly wasn&#039;t aware of any other students shooting heroin etc...
I refuse to mention this kid by name because he is a minor, but he had major issues BEFORE he got there.  Narconon tried to help him, but sent him home because he needed serious mental help that they were not equipped for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a student at Rainbow a canyon at the same time as the plaintiff and 99% of this lawsuit isn&#8217;t true.  I remember him fainting but that&#8217;s because he refused to drink anything but coffee.  He would fight with his minor roommates to the point where staff had to move him.  He didn&#8217;t want to be there, so he&#8217;d make up stories to his parents in an attempt to get them to bring him home.<br />
I&#8217;m no Narconon fan because they gave me an &#8220;ethics cycle&#8221; for rules broken by other people that I knew about and didn&#8217;t tell.  But most of the claims in this lawsuit are ridiculous.  There was no branding, the employees weren&#8217;t doing drugs, I certainly wasn&#8217;t aware of any other students shooting heroin etc&#8230;<br />
I refuse to mention this kid by name because he is a minor, but he had major issues BEFORE he got there.  Narconon tried to help him, but sent him home because he needed serious mental help that they were not equipped for.</p>
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		By: Charlie bears daddy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Charlie bears daddy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72424&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

Go to Facebooks- Narconon-Exposed and you will find more than you ever wanted to know about them.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72424">California</a>.</p>
<p>Go to Facebooks- Narconon-Exposed and you will find more than you ever wanted to know about them.</p>
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		By: Deckard__Cain		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deckard__Cain]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 00:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72479&quot;&gt;John P.&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for the insight. This was a theory that I read and spitting out here second/third hand, and I&#039;m not one to recall details on strange conspiracy theories (where the devil is usually in the details). 

I do believe there are other, unseen reasons for the large expenditures other than marketing. Miscavige&#039;s patterns of absconding expense payments (and this is also by LRH&#039;s design) is well known and makes me question why they are adding to their list of expenses, exponentially.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72479">John P.</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight. This was a theory that I read and spitting out here second/third hand, and I&#8217;m not one to recall details on strange conspiracy theories (where the devil is usually in the details). </p>
<p>I do believe there are other, unseen reasons for the large expenditures other than marketing. Miscavige&#8217;s patterns of absconding expense payments (and this is also by LRH&#8217;s design) is well known and makes me question why they are adding to their list of expenses, exponentially.</p>
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		By: Sandy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sandy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 23:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72501&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

I was so sure there was one up here in MN, but they are referring our folks to a place in Louisiana.  Huh?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72501">California</a>.</p>
<p>I was so sure there was one up here in MN, but they are referring our folks to a place in Louisiana.  Huh?</p>
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		By: Valerie Ross		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Valerie Ross]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 18:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72496&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

My little sister has been 12 years sober thanks to a legitimate recovery program.  She had actually allowed ex-husband number two to adopt and raise her son rather than sober up after my parents died.   That is why I take Narconon so personally.  I know legitimate, supervised rehabs work and it hurts me to see already vulnerable people pushed even further down by scams like Narconon.  The really sad part about all of this is when I was in Scamatology, I was trying to get her in Narconon.  I am so glad I lost that battle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72496">California</a>.</p>
<p>My little sister has been 12 years sober thanks to a legitimate recovery program.  She had actually allowed ex-husband number two to adopt and raise her son rather than sober up after my parents died.   That is why I take Narconon so personally.  I know legitimate, supervised rehabs work and it hurts me to see already vulnerable people pushed even further down by scams like Narconon.  The really sad part about all of this is when I was in Scamatology, I was trying to get her in Narconon.  I am so glad I lost that battle.</p>
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		By: California		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[California]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 15:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72500&quot;&gt;JustCallMeMary&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Mary:

A drop of 90% in one year of Narconon &quot;Education&quot; revenue is significant, from 2008-2009.  When Preston, et al., were petitioning for a Narconon facility, my understanding was that this was for an expansion of a small facility, like the two 6-bedders we see now in California.  So Hawaii did the right thing and refused to license one.... the phone calls and e-mails from the activists worked.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72500">JustCallMeMary</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Mary:</p>
<p>A drop of 90% in one year of Narconon &#8220;Education&#8221; revenue is significant, from 2008-2009.  When Preston, et al., were petitioning for a Narconon facility, my understanding was that this was for an expansion of a small facility, like the two 6-bedders we see now in California.  So Hawaii did the right thing and refused to license one&#8230;. the phone calls and e-mails from the activists worked.</p>
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		By: JustCallMeMary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JustCallMeMary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 14:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72495&quot;&gt;California&lt;/a&gt;.

If you look here at page 9 of their 2998  tax form 990, they reported the amount as contributions received. Keep in mind that Kelly Preston runs benefits  for this facility and gets friends to donate. 1 million is nothing compared to what she has and  it could well be a donation from her for all we know. But it&#039;s not money from running a program.

http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/260/260029313/260029313_200812_990.pdf


It&#039;s easier for me to reply to you on all this if  you post over at TippingPoint, Better to discuss further the number of facilities there in that thread, so we can get your comments and concerns addressed and findable on the internet by readers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72495">California</a>.</p>
<p>If you look here at page 9 of their 2998  tax form 990, they reported the amount as contributions received. Keep in mind that Kelly Preston runs benefits  for this facility and gets friends to donate. 1 million is nothing compared to what she has and  it could well be a donation from her for all we know. But it&#8217;s not money from running a program.</p>
<p><a href="http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/260/260029313/260029313_200812_990.pdf" rel="nofollow ugc">http://dynamodata.fdncenter.org/990_pdf_archive/260/260029313/260029313_200812_990.pdf</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s easier for me to reply to you on all this if  you post over at TippingPoint, Better to discuss further the number of facilities there in that thread, so we can get your comments and concerns addressed and findable on the internet by readers.</p>
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		By: grundoon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grundoon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:55:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72481&quot;&gt;SandiCorrena&lt;/a&gt;.

Narc&lt;b&gt;o&lt;/b&gt;non]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72481">SandiCorrena</a>.</p>
<p>Narc<b>o</b>non</p>
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		By: DeElizabethan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DeElizabethan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 07:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72489&quot;&gt;Cerulean Blu&lt;/a&gt;.

Hadn&#039;t seen that, thanks. I commented and now we&#039;ll see if it gets printed. I may have been snarky. Who me?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72489">Cerulean Blu</a>.</p>
<p>Hadn&#8217;t seen that, thanks. I commented and now we&#8217;ll see if it gets printed. I may have been snarky. Who me?</p>
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		By: media_lush		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[media_lush]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2013 06:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72489&quot;&gt;Cerulean Blu&lt;/a&gt;.

I did.... posted it in in previous Tony article to this one if you want see the comments [select newest topics and scroll down]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://tonyortega.org/2013/01/05/another-scientology-drug-rehab-lawsuit-alleges-disturbing-abuse/comment-page-1/#comment-72489">Cerulean Blu</a>.</p>
<p>I did&#8230;. posted it in in previous Tony article to this one if you want see the comments [select newest topics and scroll down]</p>
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